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Koflok's Goals Galore 2012
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Hi koflok, thank you for your great tactic. I have several questions after using Beta-2 for over 50+ games.
i) Most goals came from wingers, it is not bad but I want to see more goals came from strikers. Even after I have tweaked the striker's TTB from often to mixed, he still passed too much. This was more likely be the case when versus a stronger opponent. What should I tweak to make striker take a more important role to score? (My striker, Kadlec, Yaya Sanogo)
ii) Even my MC have "Try killer balls" PPM and 17+ passing, creativity,15+ teamwork, they only pass to feet to wingers/striker and did not do much that pose real threat. From what i saw, only the front 3 contributed to score. As a result, I am thinking a defensive MC is more suitable for this tactic, at least have better control in midfield. Do you have any idea?
iii) My fullbacks were so stupid when they got the ball byline. They will exchange pass with wingers repeatedly, but seldom cross. Even worse, they may hold up ball until get disposed by opponents, sometimes then became a counter-attack from the opponents :-(. (P.S. My fullback may cross at some rare occasion, but they never cross successfully. My FBs:12-13 Crossing）
iv) Last questions is that i start finding the tactic did not work as good as first 10 games.
At that time my Southampton just got promoted to EPL. I managed to won Man Utd at Old Trafford by 1-4, although Rooney got a red card at 27th minute.
But for now , my teams sometimes even struggled when versus newly promoted teams, and usually only managed to draw or won by 1-0 (and usually that goal only came from corners...:-( ). Do you have any idea what i have to tweak?
Sorry for my bad English ;-)
i) Most goals came from wingers, it is not bad but I want to see more goals came from strikers. Even after I have tweaked the striker's TTB from often to mixed, he still passed too much. This was more likely be the case when versus a stronger opponent. What should I tweak to make striker take a more important role to score? (My striker, Kadlec, Yaya Sanogo)
ii) Even my MC have "Try killer balls" PPM and 17+ passing, creativity,15+ teamwork, they only pass to feet to wingers/striker and did not do much that pose real threat. From what i saw, only the front 3 contributed to score. As a result, I am thinking a defensive MC is more suitable for this tactic, at least have better control in midfield. Do you have any idea?
iii) My fullbacks were so stupid when they got the ball byline. They will exchange pass with wingers repeatedly, but seldom cross. Even worse, they may hold up ball until get disposed by opponents, sometimes then became a counter-attack from the opponents :-(. (P.S. My fullback may cross at some rare occasion, but they never cross successfully. My FBs:12-13 Crossing）
iv) Last questions is that i start finding the tactic did not work as good as first 10 games.
At that time my Southampton just got promoted to EPL. I managed to won Man Utd at Old Trafford by 1-4, although Rooney got a red card at 27th minute.
But for now , my teams sometimes even struggled when versus newly promoted teams, and usually only managed to draw or won by 1-0 (and usually that goal only came from corners...:-( ). Do you have any idea what i have to tweak?
Sorry for my bad English ;-)
i) Oh wow really? Weird! Considering this tactic is actually exploitin the striker to be the main man in scoring.
You can see mine (Sturridge, Hulk and Cavani) has gone all at an over 1 goal/game rate.
Well idk, I mean why would you complain as long as the front 3 are scoring, even if it's not the 'main' striker.
I've made the winger to actually act as an striker on attacks.
If you really want your striker to score more, make him as target man with run onto ball as supply.
ii) Make both MC have run from deep 'mixed'. It'll allow for them to stay upfield just beside the penalty box and become more dangerous.
And yes, the MC doesnt actually serve as an goal threat, they act more of a attack initiator and flowing the movement of the ball.
They do occasionally pops up late in the box and scores, but then again that's what the front 3 are for.
While you may not see much goals or even assists from the MCs but their passing do open up spaces.
You can have a more defensive (or preferably, all around) midfielder for MCL actually
iii) I'm trying to work on that right now. I do prefer them to exchange passes with attackers rather than cross.
But I do want them to cross when there's open spaces, both on byline or deep.
Yeah all you can do right now is to set DLR cross ball to often.
iv) Are you not making chances or what?
There's a tendency for teams to play more defensively if you're on a winning streak.
And there's also motivation which is key. I've had games which ended up 0-0 on half time and then I blow dry them on half time
and bam! on half time everyone is motivated and score like crazy.
There's only one way to find out
I would prefer the BETA 2 as it serve as an improvement over the original.
If you tend to REALLY use it you can use it both and try to compare it and combine the good elements from each version.
hey thanks for the tactic!
anyway i've been having a good time walloping weaker teams with arsenal. but i keep losing to the big teams as they expose my defense too badly. do you change any special team instructions when u face big teams home/away?
anyway i've been having a good time walloping weaker teams with arsenal. but i keep losing to the big teams as they expose my defense too badly. do you change any special team instructions when u face big teams home/away?
Got some fairly good results from my Ajax team after the first half of the season, using the tactic. Sadly, I just lost my first league match to PSV after being unbeaten for 17 games in a row. Otherwise, things are going pretty good. Qualified from the CL Group stage (became 2nd after Man U) - now I need to handle Barcelona in the first knockout round. Please don't hesitate to ask any questions.
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Well I don't realy lose against the big guns. I win at home and win or draw away. Unless they have bad defense which can be exploited easily.
I don't really change the tactic. I always go full attack. Then again, my players are always motivated with me being aggresive in team talks during big games.
Maybe, just maybe, you can try to lower the d-line against top team which have high speed attackers. They usually can exploit the gap behind your defender by playing over the top through ball. Don't forget to turn off the offside trap.
One thing I'm having major trouble is defending crossing. My fullback doesn't seem able to really close down opponent's winger.
They just stand there following them aroud but still giving them enough space to whip in a cross.
You can't always win
. I just lost to Everton 
Good luck against Barca by the way. You'll definitely need it against them
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Anyhow.. I'm just finding it hard to defend against crossing. Wingers seems to be able to skin my fullback. They doesn't really tight mark him giving them some yards to whip in a cross (although I already did make them on tight mark).
I want my fullback to be aggressive (like AI's), whenever my fullback or winger got the ball the close them down quickly and be aggressive in not letting them have any space.
Lol my bad for being a bad tactic creator. I'm having problems with my own tactic.
I hope you guys here can help me out on this one. So if anyone have a slightest idea on how to do this, feel free to post it here.
what you mean? to change from offensive to control/standard , or you suggest something else so I might have some chances vs top teamskoflok said:
?won vs some Scandinavian teams in 2nd and 3rd quali round of CL and then won in 4th vs Young Boys in thrilling match on their field 5:3
(0-0 home score), very happy to play in groups ( +7 mln euross + you know a lot of moneyz from tickets/tv broadcast/etc - before i had had like 2-3 mln budget )and about group stage haaaaahaa so unlucky xD im in one group with Real Madrid, AC Milan and Rubin Kazan wtf
my goal is to win vs rubin and then with some luck maybe draw on my field vs those beasts Yes just do that. If you miraclously lead after 60 minutes and try to retain the lead, push down your AMRL to MRL and make your team play at defensive mentality
Good luck on the group lol. Try targetting 3rd position so you can go to Europa League.
Good luck on the group lol. Try targetting 3rd position so you can go to Europa League.
Rubin 2-2 Lech, Lech 2-1 Milan after 2 games lolo amazing games, especially by my keeper BuricYes just do that. If you miraclously lead after 60 minutes and try to retain the lead, push down your AMRL to MRL and make your team play at defensive mentality
Good luck on the group lol. Try targetting 3rd position so you can go to Europa League.
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Hi Koflok,
I had to register and post seen as thought your FM11 tactic helped me achieve 15 consecutive Premier Leagues and various other things.
Something I can bring to this thread is using your tactic on a lower league team. My team Huddersfield start in League 1 of the UK leagues and getting out of there is no problem.
Using your tactic (which I implemented in my 2nd season) got me a back to back promotion. I would say it was hardly "Goals Galore" more "Solid". Essentially I just kept going and somehow ended up 2nd in the championship.
In the premier league 1st season I bought a lot of players and ended up 9th. I took a lot of bad beats like you usually do (away at the top teams etc) but stuck with your tactic and it took me to 9th.
My last season which I finished last night I ended up 7th after spending much of the season in the top 3 and was top for a long time. I did win the League Cup however.
I think your tactic is excellent however nothing can cover up for average players so I know in maybe another season or 2 as I develop my team I should be winning the premier league. At the moment I have Yaya Sanogo up front (Loved him in FM11 so had to buy him again) so far 50 goals in 75 games and still 22 so I know he'll get better.
The way I have always worked with FM is to buy very young players (16/17/18 years old) and develop them into a incredible team.
So I guess here is my feedback so far for this tactic:
1) I do concede a lot of goals from corners, I have been trying to keep up with this thread but might have missed an updated corner routine.
2) Now that coachs and scouts say in what role players play best, do you think that its best to play players how the coachs say or stick to your tactic roles? For example, I use my MCL as a CM (Support) instead of DLP and I have Sanogo as a Poacher both because my coaches say thats how they play best.
Thanks for your great tactic. In a week or so I'm sure i'll be telling you I'm a championship winner.
Matt
I had to register and post seen as thought your FM11 tactic helped me achieve 15 consecutive Premier Leagues and various other things.
Something I can bring to this thread is using your tactic on a lower league team. My team Huddersfield start in League 1 of the UK leagues and getting out of there is no problem.
Using your tactic (which I implemented in my 2nd season) got me a back to back promotion. I would say it was hardly "Goals Galore" more "Solid". Essentially I just kept going and somehow ended up 2nd in the championship.
In the premier league 1st season I bought a lot of players and ended up 9th. I took a lot of bad beats like you usually do (away at the top teams etc) but stuck with your tactic and it took me to 9th.
My last season which I finished last night I ended up 7th after spending much of the season in the top 3 and was top for a long time. I did win the League Cup however.
I think your tactic is excellent however nothing can cover up for average players so I know in maybe another season or 2 as I develop my team I should be winning the premier league. At the moment I have Yaya Sanogo up front (Loved him in FM11 so had to buy him again) so far 50 goals in 75 games and still 22 so I know he'll get better.
The way I have always worked with FM is to buy very young players (16/17/18 years old) and develop them into a incredible team.
So I guess here is my feedback so far for this tactic:
1) I do concede a lot of goals from corners, I have been trying to keep up with this thread but might have missed an updated corner routine.
2) Now that coachs and scouts say in what role players play best, do you think that its best to play players how the coachs say or stick to your tactic roles? For example, I use my MCL as a CM (Support) instead of DLP and I have Sanogo as a Poacher both because my coaches say thats how they play best.
Thanks for your great tactic. In a week or so I'm sure i'll be telling you I'm a championship winner.
Matt
Koflok i've question: In your tactic left winger should play right food and the right winger should play left food ( I know that this is not obvious 
I read first post ) But if my player have in attributes that he play good both legs so he can play as left winger ? Or he must "right food" I know that my english is terrible, but i hope that you understand.
I read first post ) But if my player have in attributes that he play good both legs so he can play as left winger ? Or he must "right food" I know that my english is terrible, but i hope that you understand.Anesthetize
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Hey koflok! I see a lot of stuff has happened since you started out. I more or less stopped being here since I (for some reason) always seem to have the most success with my old FM11 tactic, but I'm crossing my fingers that yours are going to become better! I see you have two tactics now, and just wondering which tactic you would say to be the "best" overall (for me to start using). Also, have you managed to find some way to tighten it at the back? From what I remember, that was the biggest issue when this thread was 7 pages long ^^
Also, if you really want to, you could give me a quick rundown over what changes you have done since then? Only if you're not too busy and want to of course. Also, how is it faring with mid/low table teams now? Biggest problem I have with tactics here on Fmbase is that they all work fine with good teams, but just a select few work really well for all other levels of play. I never personally play a top table team, and I'm having troubles cracking the top 4 spot with my respective teams (Hannover, Gladbach, Wolves) in their respective leagues. I'm hoping you are the fix to this issue!
Also, if you really want to, you could give me a quick rundown over what changes you have done since then? Only if you're not too busy and want to of course. Also, how is it faring with mid/low table teams now? Biggest problem I have with tactics here on Fmbase is that they all work fine with good teams, but just a select few work really well for all other levels of play. I never personally play a top table team, and I'm having troubles cracking the top 4 spot with my respective teams (Hannover, Gladbach, Wolves) in their respective leagues. I'm hoping you are the fix to this issue!
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Quick question Koflok.
Do you have a particular training schedule or do you leave it to your coaches?
Do you have a particular training schedule or do you leave it to your coaches?
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Just from reading someone's previous post, my wingers also seem to be the main goalscorers. I have two games, a Man Utd/Tre Fiori game, and a Wolves game.
Nani & Valencia score most of my goals for United. My winger scores most for Tre Fiori.
My right winger scores most of my goals for Wolves (Wes Hoolahan).
Nani & Valencia score most of my goals for United. My winger scores most for Tre Fiori.
My right winger scores most of my goals for Wolves (Wes Hoolahan).
LOL awesome stuff man. Hope your run continues in Europe.
Will be gaining a whole lotta money
Just a little tip, playing as major underdog. You can try to play more 'standard' mentality rather than attacking when going away against the big boys. That may (or may not) help. Some have suggested that and managed to ****** a result.
1. No you didn't miss anything because we simply didn't discuss a lot of that. I notice some corners from goals and yes I'm working on it. But there isn't really much to work on. There seems to be an issue of far post and near post corner in FM so yeah... I hope I'll find something. (Just know as I type this I just thought on something)
2. I would not change the role of the players. Really, role has pretty much been 'useless' in this tactic because I've changed a lot of player instructions that overrides the settings if you change the role. So even if you change the role, you would not see any significant difference. If you want you can try to see the player instruction of striker, and then change it to Poacher. No changes at all
Koflok i've question: In your tactic left winger should play right food and the right winger should play left food ( I know that this is not obvious
Yes of course a both-legged player can play. They're the best kind!
Well the 'best' overall for me is the new one, since it's basically an improvement tweaks over the old one.
To some yes it's tighten because of the change in defense system, for some it does some problem.
The biggest change I did was implement this sort of Barca-esque pressing and high defensive line.
Everyone is pressing from the front trying to win the ball back as quick as possible. This has resulted tons of goals from me. Forcing defender a mistake and launch a quick counter from the front.
However, due to the high defensive line there might be occassion where striker strung out of your offsie trap and through on goal.
You do need decent defender on this one. You can 'turn this off' by playing deep and untick the offside trap thugh if you have less confidence in your back.
There's a changelog I hope it helps.
Just an addition you can change
1. Wingers RWB to often
2. MCL RFD to mixed
3. Fullback crossing to often
4. Wingers crossing from to byline
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I'm currently testing it with Leeds. I know it's not the most underdog team but nonetheless it's not a big team.
I did loan some players that fit with the tactic. Most notably Sturridge as striker. He's simply been brilliant.
I can proudly say that the current tactic's striker setting is brilliant.
These are some of the matches that were better..
So,
I'm not saying that this tactic is a wonder tactic that can win you games even in the LLM.
I just think it's not a matter of how 'top level' your team is but it's more of a finding the right fit of players and you should be fine.
There has been some users that playing it with lower league and got decent results as well.