Mr Langvatn's Tactic Thread (Updated for 13.3.3)

What a great tactic!

I've used it during 2 seasons with Saint-Etienne (2013-2014 and 2014-2015), results so far:

2013-2014: Won the championship (95points, 83goals scored, 14 conceded), Won the French national cup. Lost in semi final of the French league cup. Lost in 1/8 final of the champions league

2014-2015: Won everything!!! championship (93points, 86goals scored, 20 conceded) (I was unbeaten until march, but then the agenda was a nightmare and I had to sacrifice some games to keep a competitive team for the champions league), French national cup, French league cup, Champions league!! (I've beaten Juventus (7-2), Arsenal (5-2), Bayern Munich(4-1) and Manchester city(1-0))

Here is my team:
Ruffier
Corchia - Aderveweirld - Zuma - Ghoulam
Capoue
Robben - Sankharé - Guilavogui - Wellington Nem
Privat

Substitutes:
Coulibali
Danzé - Perrin - Mignot - Brison
Bayal
Hamouma - Lemoine - Cohade - Alessandrini
Toivonen

The main advice I would give you is: do not modify deeply your team from one season to another one. Players need a lot of time to get used to it. As an example, Toivonen, recruited in july, was a pure **** until march, I was about to sell it in January but didn't have time to find another player so I kept it, and he finally scored more than 1 goal per match during the last 3months. Same story with Sankharé, signed in July, pure **** the first 6months, but after January he became a complete beast! (2goals against Arsenal, 2 goals against Munich).

This tactic can clearly counterbalance your players' level, so don't rush anything during the transfer windows. 1player at a time, and keep in mind he will not play well the first 6 months.

Anyway, clearly well done Mr Langvatn!!! and thank you for sharing this :)
 
As the best ever tactic of FM it allowed me to take Exeter City from league 2 to Premier League in just 3 seasons. However surviving in the Premier League required some modifications to the team. Made a lot of changes, and manage to survive on goal difference the last day of the season.

Following season, my team was much stronger. Made modifications with good transfers, and ended up 10th (media prediction 20th).

This season i finally got to buy som quality players (f.ex Rafinha of Barcelona on a free). Mind you, my club status has not sky rocketed even though we are in the top flight.

However, I'm struggeling to establish an okay form, and seem to be playing bad. Currently in 11th place half way.

My question is; does anyone have experience establishing a lower league team as a success in the premier league. And if so, what is your key elements in doing so?
 
tactic still doesnt wprk for me watheaver i do is keep losing im in 3d season now i didn't make a lot of signings only the neede ones and from a 5th place in 1st season to a 9th in 2nd and whright now im in 17th PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Can anybody please give me a few tips on stats requirements for rock classic tactic?

Also, i noticed the playmaker option is ticked on. Should you assign a playmaker?

Thank you.
 
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i want to ask if a player is AMR is it a problem to play him as MR or first i should train him as MR. I as cuz the rock classic is using MR ?
 
ggrady said:
Can anybody please give me a few tips on stats requirements for rock classic tactic?

Also, i noticed the playmaker option is ticked on. Should you assign a playmaker?

Thank you.
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Player filter list on the OP
 
suptirior said:
tactic still doesnt wprk for me watheaver i do is keep losing im in 3d season now i didn't make a lot of signings only the neede ones and from a 5th place in 1st season to a 9th in 2nd and whright now im in 17th PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm with you on that - it was absolutely terrible for me when I used it in my Spurs game, but is much better in my Anderlecht game.
 
Jadax said:
I'm with you on that - it was absolutely terrible for me when I used it in my Spurs game, but is much better in my Anderlecht game.
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no offence but how in **** can it be terrible for you??? Spurs has a allmost perfect squad for it.. Even Adebayor can play well with.. on other hand dont forget that English league is tougher then Belgium league. This tactic is really strange.. It give the same feeling as the diablo's one we had last 2 fm's.. not goals-wise but more winning allmost all without a lot of man-management :) My Blyth save is really fun :) only lost 2 matches first season with youth only.. tonight i continue the saga.
 
Tried the tactic on my RENNES save, and 4 games to go in Ligue 1 1st season and in second place 2 points behind Lille. Overall tactic looks very good, and some excellent results including beating St Ettiene 7-0 and Bordeaux 6-0. defeast seem to be more against the lower teams like Ajaccio who've done the double over me. I;m using the Degeneration X version, but will try next season the 4-1-4-1 Rock Classic. Quality Tactic Mr Langvatn's !!...been using my own in FM13 until now, but my tactic seemed to get ineffective after the last update, so decided to give yours a try and very happy with the results. been a big Mr Hough fan prior ro FM13, but don't have enough time to really test out my own tactic to see what's gone wrong, maybe in FM14 I will try again, but with yours working so well, I think I will enjot the new found success for a while longer.Great Thread...
 
As well as the excellent results, such as just beating Werder Bremen 10-1 on aggregate in the Champions League (I'm Celtic) what I love about this tactic is that with my first choice XI, every outfield player has been on the scoresheet this season
 
Which team do you use?strong or weak?
It may depend on player's ability.

cragswfc said:
If you watch games you see your players making passes to the striker in stupid position, But what i found with the time wasting up they don't. Time wasting is much more than kicking it out of play to wast time witch people (Me my self used to think) on FM.
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Mate, this is a surreal tactic. I just started using it since the last 4 games and your Rock Classic 4-1-4-1 tactic just made me realize how wrong I was about the effectiveness of counter-attacking in FM 2013. My team finally plays the way I always wanted it to. Chuck the tiki-taka tippy-tappy possession ****, just get down to the business :-D

I just beat Bayern away (toughest team to play against for me) 6 effing 0. CCC's after CCC's and tons of almost CCC's. This tactic has made me want to watch entire games after a long long while.

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