I think TBH all ready mentioned that this thread (and all other threads) is not ment to accuse people ? I dont understand why you come up with something like FMRTE ??? This thread has 246 pages of comment. 85% of it has massives results. 15% has problems (tactic, man management, jealousy like you) ... Its complete nonsence what you are posting here.
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I think TBH all ready mentioned that this thread (and all other threads) is not ment to accuse people ? I dont understand why you come up with something like FMRTE ??? This thread has 246 pages of comment. 85% of it has massives results. 15% has problems (tactic, man management, jealousy like you) ... Its complete nonsence what you are posting here.
Originally Posted by Warson
OVRO:
Which position is responsible for the staging of the strategy of Rock Classic Tactic?
The cowboy position.
Sorry, not sure what you are asking.
Which position is responsible for Playmakers?
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Don't set a playmaker, but leave the playmaker option ticked.
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Not sure, but that's what the creator says and it seems to work well so I just leave it at that. I tried setting one of the centre midfielders as playmaker, but it didn't seem to make any difference. I also tried unticking the playmaker option and that didn't seem to make any difference either, so now I just leave it as it is.
This tactic is GODLY
Wow, what can I say except that your tactic is absolutely immense. Although I must say I have had crippling injury problems all season with it sadly. It's made things tough but clearly not unmanageable...read on.
I have just completed a full season with your 4-1-4-1 Rock Classic (after not playing for months) and it bought me instant success!
I started a new game with Arsenal (I must confess a slight sin, I transferred Higuain in the editor before I started seeing as it's a 99% done deal!) and could only have dreamt of the how successful I would be with your tactic.
The screenshots below speak for themselves, but in summary
- Won all competitions - Premier League, Carling Cup, FA Cup and Champions League
- Top scorers and fewest goals conceded in the Premier League
- Highlight of the season - an absolutely insane 10-1 aggregate victory over Chelsea in the Champions League QF.
I sold a LOT of deadwood at the start of the season, most notably Gervinho, Chamakh, Bendtner and later Giroud, raising in excess of £40m, and reinvested heavily. Amongt the incomings were Howedes, Tiote and Asamoah, then ter Stegen in January, with a few longer term signings made such as Will Hughes, Nathan Redmond and Mason Bennett.
Asamoah and ter Stegen had fantastic seasons, but Tiote has been a big diasppointment - the lowest performing member of the entire squad this season.
I am about to begin my second season and De Sciglio and Leitner will be joining the squad for pre-season. Buzzing for the new season now, although I'm not sure how I could possibly top what's just happened in all honesty.
Of all the amazing games in the season, the Champions League final takes the cake. I say Champions League - it may as well have been the FA Cup! After a Last 16 tie against FC Kobehavn I drew Chelsea, Man City and then Man Utd in the final!
After 85 minutes the game was goalless and heading for extra time when Monreal got sent off. Naturally I'm assuming the worst for the next 30 minutes having used all of my substitutions. I then amazingly score 2 in the first half of extra time and then Arteta gets a second yellow card with 10 minutes to go. To make things worse, Sagna then gets injured so I'm down to 8 players on the pitch in an approximately 5-3-0-0 formation, but somehow miraculously see it through!
This tactic seemed to never know when it was beaten. I was 1-0 down to Spurs in the FA cup final, and down to 9 men going into stoppage time. 2 minutes were indicated, and I equalised with 90+5 on the clock, then went on to win!
In closing, this tactic is nothing short of godly. If I could only stop getting so many injuries. I lost Cazorla for 3-4 months early on, and pretty much every player in the team had at least 3-6 weeks out of action, many much more than that. The run up to the Champions League SF was ridiculous. I lost Higuain for the season before the first leg of the semi, and lost several others around the same point. I had 5 or 6 players from the reserves - several out of position - in the team at one point!
Next season should see a bit more depth in the squad however.
As I said, De Sciglio and Leitner join soon and will both be around the first team. Sanogo, Hughes, Remond and Coquelin both spent all season out on loan and should also be stepping into the first team next season. Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere and Frimpong have all improved massively during the season and so things are looking pretty exciting for next season! Though anything short of a quadruple is likely to leave the board a little underwhelmed!
Premier League Results
Capital One Cup Results
FA Cup Results
Champions League Results
Premier League Table
Wow, what can I say except that your tactic is absolutely immense. Although I must say I have had crippling injury problems all season with it sadly. It's made things tough but clearly not unmanageable...read on.
I have just completed a full season with your 4-1-4-1 Rock Classic (after not playing for months) and it bought me instant success!
I started a new game with Arsenal (I must confess a slight sin, I transferred Higuain in the editor before I started seeing as it's a 99% done deal!) and could only have dreamt of the how successful I would be with your tactic.
The screenshots below speak for themselves, but in summary
- Won all competitions - Premier League, Carling Cup, FA Cup and Champions League
- Top scorers and fewest goals conceded in the Premier League
- Highlight of the season - an absolutely insane 10-1 aggregate victory over Chelsea in the Champions League QF.
I sold a LOT of deadwood at the start of the season, most notably Gervinho, Chamakh, Bendtner and later Giroud, raising in excess of £40m, and reinvested heavily. Amongt the incomings were Howedes, Tiote and Asamoah, then ter Stegen in January, with a few longer term signings made such as Will Hughes, Nathan Redmond and Mason Bennett.
Asamoah and ter Stegen had fantastic seasons, but Tiote has been a big diasppointment - the lowest performing member of the entire squad this season.
I am about to begin my second season and De Sciglio and Leitner will be joining the squad for pre-season. Buzzing for the new season now, although I'm not sure how I could possibly top what's just happened in all honesty.
Of all the amazing games in the season, the Champions League final takes the cake. I say Champions League - it may as well have been the FA Cup! After a Last 16 tie against FC Kobehavn I drew Chelsea, Man City and then Man Utd in the final!
After 85 minutes the game was goalless and heading for extra time when Monreal got sent off. Naturally I'm assuming the worst for the next 30 minutes having used all of my substitutions. I then amazingly score 2 in the first half of extra time and then Arteta gets a second yellow card with 10 minutes to go. To make things worse, Sagna then gets injured so I'm down to 8 players on the pitch in an approximately 5-3-0-0 formation, but somehow miraculously see it through!
This tactic seemed to never know when it was beaten. I was 1-0 down to Spurs in the FA cup final, and down to 9 men going into stoppage time. 2 minutes were indicated, and I equalised with 90+5 on the clock, then went on to win!
In closing, this tactic is nothing short of godly. If I could only stop getting so many injuries. I lost Cazorla for 3-4 months early on, and pretty much every player in the team had at least 3-6 weeks out of action, many much more than that. The run up to the Champions League SF was ridiculous. I lost Higuain for the season before the first leg of the semi, and lost several others around the same point. I had 5 or 6 players from the reserves - several out of position - in the team at one point!
Next season should see a bit more depth in the squad however.
As I said, De Sciglio and Leitner join soon and will both be around the first team. Sanogo, Hughes, Remond and Coquelin both spent all season out on loan and should also be stepping into the first team next season. Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere and Frimpong have all improved massively during the season and so things are looking pretty exciting for next season! Though anything short of a quadruple is likely to leave the board a little underwhelmed!
Premier League Results
Capital One Cup Results
FA Cup Results
Champions League Results
Premier League Table
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if we speak bout individual training i recommend this guide: FM13 Individual Training Guide
Yeah, it has worked in very shity teams for me. It should work just fine
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I have just finished season 4 with Genoa undefeated in the league using a modified version of Rock Classic.
I switched a few settings on the MC, pushed the MR/ML up to AMR/AML with FWD runs often. I fiddled with the wide play of the AMR/L most of the season as I had injury problems along the way.
As a bit of background info, in season 3 I finished fourth in the league, but won the Champions league - Beating Man Utd, PSG, Chelsea and Man City - 4 times iirc including group games. It was a strange one as we lost games we should be winning. I had finished second two seasons in a row previously so was disappointed to drop down the league so much.
Back to the tactic, I left the CD settings the same for everyone, except the wingers, who i tinkered with reducing CD to try and free them up slightly. In the end i put it back.
The most exciting thing for me was getting Destro scoring for fun. He hit a goal a game in the league (32 in 30 with 2 off the bench. He also missed 3 penalties along the way.) , compared to the previous season, using Rock Classic "out of the box", where he scored once in 18 games. This is in no way a slight on TRC as a tactic, I have had unbelievable success with Coventry, Swansea and Liverpool. among other teams. Destro just had a bad season, and a slow start to season 4, he didnt score until October, and was on 6 goals at Christmas. He learned the PPM Likes to beat the offside trap and hasn't stopped scoring since.
I have also just noticed I only scored 6 goals from corners all season, so does anyone recommend a good corner tactic this year? With a decent set up this tweak could easily go over 100 league goals.
I do have a really good first team, but have a sneaky feeling I will have to sell Ozil at a loss, he really isn't justifying his wages or resord transfer fee. This is still a counter attacking tactic, and i feel he would do better in a control environment, or a system playing through the middle. His PPMs just don't suit this at all.
Which takes me on to my last point. The flexibility this offers as a tactic. As it has generally low creative settings, it appears PPMs take a greater effect. I am able to slightly change the style of play to suit the situation i am in by changing personnel, and still maintain the integrity of the system. E.G. If i play Juventus, I would play Maher as the less offensive MC and Bradley as the MC with FWD runs, with the aim of putting more pressure higher up the field, forcing mistakes from midfielders. Maher would then operate deeper, picking passes to either AMR/L (Operating in however i had them that particular game, Winger/IF, AP/IF, W/W, IF/IF etc... (I use these as descriptions of the role i wanted the player to occupy, and manipulated crossing and wide play to achieve what i was trying to achieve.) or Destro, who is skillfull enough to recieve the ball to feet, in the air, running into space, coming deep you get my drift.
The opposite of this set up might be used in a home game against a 20th position Cagliari. (Whom I relegated using this set up) I would use Maher as the offensive mc, Marshall as the MC with mixed fwd runs and Cirigliano in behind as the DLP. This gave the creativity needed to break down a team fighting for their lives, while minimizing the risk of Michael "The Super-Beast" Bradley getting into a battle with an opposing CM. getting frustrated and hacking him down. Possibly causing death.
Im not going to upload it until Mr L returns and gives it a look over first, I feel its only fair as the foundations, (and ground floor) are all his work.
In regards to training, I didn't plug this in until Game the Atlanta game, so it wasn't fluid right away. I let my AM take match training, and I had mine set to Team Cohesion - Balanced and Match prep 40% with a rest day after the match. I like training this way as I seem to get better results training individual attributes on heavy. (I have just realised, in my last fixture, it still wasn't fluid. Can't wait for next season now.)
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I switched a few settings on the MC, pushed the MR/ML up to AMR/AML with FWD runs often. I fiddled with the wide play of the AMR/L most of the season as I had injury problems along the way.
As a bit of background info, in season 3 I finished fourth in the league, but won the Champions league - Beating Man Utd, PSG, Chelsea and Man City - 4 times iirc including group games. It was a strange one as we lost games we should be winning. I had finished second two seasons in a row previously so was disappointed to drop down the league so much.
Back to the tactic, I left the CD settings the same for everyone, except the wingers, who i tinkered with reducing CD to try and free them up slightly. In the end i put it back.
The most exciting thing for me was getting Destro scoring for fun. He hit a goal a game in the league (32 in 30 with 2 off the bench. He also missed 3 penalties along the way.) , compared to the previous season, using Rock Classic "out of the box", where he scored once in 18 games. This is in no way a slight on TRC as a tactic, I have had unbelievable success with Coventry, Swansea and Liverpool. among other teams. Destro just had a bad season, and a slow start to season 4, he didnt score until October, and was on 6 goals at Christmas. He learned the PPM Likes to beat the offside trap and hasn't stopped scoring since.
I have also just noticed I only scored 6 goals from corners all season, so does anyone recommend a good corner tactic this year? With a decent set up this tweak could easily go over 100 league goals.
I do have a really good first team, but have a sneaky feeling I will have to sell Ozil at a loss, he really isn't justifying his wages or resord transfer fee. This is still a counter attacking tactic, and i feel he would do better in a control environment, or a system playing through the middle. His PPMs just don't suit this at all.
Which takes me on to my last point. The flexibility this offers as a tactic. As it has generally low creative settings, it appears PPMs take a greater effect. I am able to slightly change the style of play to suit the situation i am in by changing personnel, and still maintain the integrity of the system. E.G. If i play Juventus, I would play Maher as the less offensive MC and Bradley as the MC with FWD runs, with the aim of putting more pressure higher up the field, forcing mistakes from midfielders. Maher would then operate deeper, picking passes to either AMR/L (Operating in however i had them that particular game, Winger/IF, AP/IF, W/W, IF/IF etc... (I use these as descriptions of the role i wanted the player to occupy, and manipulated crossing and wide play to achieve what i was trying to achieve.) or Destro, who is skillfull enough to recieve the ball to feet, in the air, running into space, coming deep you get my drift.
The opposite of this set up might be used in a home game against a 20th position Cagliari. (Whom I relegated using this set up) I would use Maher as the offensive mc, Marshall as the MC with mixed fwd runs and Cirigliano in behind as the DLP. This gave the creativity needed to break down a team fighting for their lives, while minimizing the risk of Michael "The Super-Beast" Bradley getting into a battle with an opposing CM. getting frustrated and hacking him down. Possibly causing death.
Im not going to upload it until Mr L returns and gives it a look over first, I feel its only fair as the foundations, (and ground floor) are all his work.
In regards to training, I didn't plug this in until Game the Atlanta game, so it wasn't fluid right away. I let my AM take match training, and I had mine set to Team Cohesion - Balanced and Match prep 40% with a rest day after the match. I like training this way as I seem to get better results training individual attributes on heavy. (I have just realised, in my last fixture, it still wasn't fluid. Can't wait for next season now.)
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Im gonna use the time to test it thoroughly. Im Playing as Crystal Palace with LFCMarshall update running. So far, I had 3 goals disallowed in a 0-3 defeat at home to man utd, lost 3-1 away to arsenal, again, with a goal disallowed, and suffered a narrow 1-0 defeat to Everton. My only signings have come from a board appointed DOF (I wanted to see just how little management you could get away with.)
They are random to say the least -Titus Bramble, Craig Conway, Matt Phillips, Kevin Davies, Ferre Bodde, Marcus Senna, Tommy Rowe and Adam Eckerzley. I really dont have the right kind of players for the tactic e.g Really strong/fast/hard working to make up for the lack of technical ability. I will have to switch the wingers settings about to give myself the best chance. So far I am going to have to adjust this a lot without going back to TRC 4141 formation, which IMO, defeats the point of what I want to do.
I will run a season with a big team tomorrow, and see how that goes.
They are random to say the least -Titus Bramble, Craig Conway, Matt Phillips, Kevin Davies, Ferre Bodde, Marcus Senna, Tommy Rowe and Adam Eckerzley. I really dont have the right kind of players for the tactic e.g Really strong/fast/hard working to make up for the lack of technical ability. I will have to switch the wingers settings about to give myself the best chance. So far I am going to have to adjust this a lot without going back to TRC 4141 formation, which IMO, defeats the point of what I want to do.
I will run a season with a big team tomorrow, and see how that goes.
hey mate, for corner set up do this:
aim - near post
the full backs - stay back
the wingers - stay back if needed (usually 1 of them takes the corner so only 1 stays back if needed)
your best header - near post flick on (works alot better than attack near post, which alot of people dont realise)
your 2nd best header - challenge keeper
and the rest of the team - go forward (apart from 1, usually the worst header, lurk outside area)
i get atleast 25 goals a season from this
doing a youth challenge also, with Blyth Spartans. not level 9 but just 1 lvl under BSN. 2 easy promotions and 3th season is going really well. First with 3 pnt clear to second. Blue Square Premier it is
