Mr Langvatn's Tactic Thread (Updated for 13.3.3)

iHoward said:
When you say to use the Rock 4-1-4-1 and Gung Ho 4-4-2 are these both classic and if not is converting them to classic going to affect the tactics performance?
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You can't just convert to classic. Lots of things will change, and it needs a lot of tweaking.
 
So what two tactics do you suggest for home and away? And do you believe these tactics are the best in the game?
 
wiizzi said:
u are wrong. reduce tackling for this players in tactic settings, por example, i tested some of mr.langvants tactics and had 3 red cards in few games but all from same position. from different players. and for example Celtic's Wanyama red card or many yellow cards not from agression, but from discussing with referees. so u need train discipline in PPMs. and u r wrong about game full of bugs. just becouse tactic makers cant find engine exploits not mean its full of bugs.
play FM since 2008 and this year more interesting FM i played. my opinion.
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actually there are still some weird bugs (or exploit, no matter how you call it). I pm'es Mr Langvatn a few days ago to talk about his 442, and telling him I was trying something similar. In this conversation, I showed him some weird games with Man Utd, like a 8-0 win @ chelsea. I know it's Man U, but 8-0 at chelsea sounds... buggy to me.

I didn't push the test further, because it's quite uninteresting to me to destroy the game that way. But the game is still "exploitable"
 
wiizzi said:
u are wrong. reduce tackling for this players in tactic settings, por example, i tested some of mr.langvants tactics and had 3 red cards in few games but all from same position. from different players. and for example Celtic's Wanyama red card or many yellow cards not from agression, but from discussing with referees. so u need train discipline in PPMs. and u r wrong about game full of bugs. just becouse tactic makers cant find engine exploits not mean its full of bugs.
play FM since 2008 and this year more interesting FM i played. my opinion.
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Sorry I don't test mr.langvants tactics. I play most of time with my own and this is my experience this game is full of bugs! In my Barca save Messi get 4 red card in one season, miss 8 penalty in row and 6 ccc in one game absolutli unrealistic. I play this game since CM series year 1999 and for me this is worst FM ever yes I have still fantastic result for example win spanish league with Deportivo la Coruna in first season etc..
ps I don't critics this tactic I critics ME .)
 
silverya said:
actually there are still some weird bugs (or exploit, no matter how you call it). I pm'es Mr Langvatn a few days ago to talk about his 442, and telling him I was trying something similar. In this conversation, I showed him some weird games with Man Utd, like a 8-0 win @ chelsea. I know it's Man U, but 8-0 at chelsea sounds... buggy to me.

I didn't push the test further, because it's quite uninteresting to me to destroy the game that way. But the game is still "exploitable"
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Feel free to exploit, more than enough people interested in ripping the leagues up

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silverya said:
actually there are still some weird bugs (or exploit, no matter how you call it). I pm'es Mr Langvatn a few days ago to talk about his 442, and telling him I was trying something similar. In this conversation, I showed him some weird games with Man Utd, like a 8-0 win @ chelsea. I know it's Man U, but 8-0 at chelsea sounds... buggy to me.

I didn't push the test further, because it's quite uninteresting to me to destroy the game that way. But the game is still "exploitable"
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after u win about 3-4 goals opponents morale is low so score more is easy. in my old save i had for 14 seasons. and i played small team from portugal. on my 4th season i catch real madrid in semis and scored 9-0. unrealistic results happen sometimes.
stupid is u have all game in ur hands 20 shots vs 2-3 and u losing 0-2 or 0-3
 
wiizzi said:
after u win about 3-4 goals opponents morale is low so score more is easy. in my old save i had for 14 seasons. and i played small team from portugal. on my 4th season i catch real madrid in semis and scored 9-0. unrealistic results happen sometimes.
stupid is u have all game in ur hands 20 shots vs 2-3 and u losing 0-2 or 0-3
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Shots and posession isn't everything as the 4-1-4-1 rock proves. It rarely has more possession than the opposition, and not always as many shots. Clear cut chances are also of high importance, and this match stat is left out in the standard postview page. Start checking this out too :) But I agree, the game can still become more stable. But this year's FM I believe is the best one yet. There were A LOT more bugs and things to exploit in earlier versions...
 
silverya said:
actually there are still some weird bugs (or exploit, no matter how you call it). I pm'es Mr Langvatn a few days ago to talk about his 442, and telling him I was trying something similar. In this conversation, I showed him some weird games with Man Utd, like a 8-0 win @ chelsea. I know it's Man U, but 8-0 at chelsea sounds... buggy to me.

I didn't push the test further, because it's quite uninteresting to me to destroy the game that way. But the game is still "exploitable"
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Those changes only worked for top teams though :) But ye, weird to win 8-0 over chelsea, but it happens. In real life too. Man Utd beat Arsenal some time ago 8-2 or smth.
 
Mr Langvatn said:
Those changes only worked for top teams though :) But ye, weird to win 8-0 over chelsea, but it happens. In real life too. Man Utd beat Arsenal some time ago 8-2 or smth.
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and Man City beat Man Utd 6-1 this season too=) happens.

using ur 4-4-2 both home and away matches
 
wiizzi said:
after u win about 3-4 goals opponents morale is low so score more is easy. in my old save i had for 14 seasons. and i played small team from portugal. on my 4th season i catch real madrid in semis and scored 9-0. unrealistic results happen sometimes.
stupid is u have all game in ur hands 20 shots vs 2-3 and u losing 0-2 or 0-3
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Yes this is tipical and very frustration yesterday I lost 0-2 my team have around 40 shot opponent 0 Pique scored two own goals lol
 
j3nick said:
Yes this is tipical and very frustration yesterday I lost 0-2 my team have around 40 shot opponent 0 Pique scored two own goals lol
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lool never happend to me)) same player scored 2 own goals=)
 
j3nick said:
sometime happen lol but what is funny opponent don't need shot on net and can smash you 2-0 this game killing me :D
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in real life football many goals are like this. strikers calculate angle to hit defender or GK and make goal
 
All good tactics but for me strikers doesn't score a lot, Cavani got 15 in 35, very strange!!
 
question

Hello Mr Langvatn.I always follow your tacs and Im very grateful for it.My question is a bit silly but I still have to ask just to make sure:).Do you change tacs during the game If you are losing.For example I always start with your Rock tac away, should I change it 4-4-2 gong classic when im losing with it? (like at later than 60-70th min) Same question is applied to 4-4-2 gong classic at home.Should I change mentality to full atack after 70th minute when Im losing with it?I also use time wasting at maximum for last 10 min when Im ahead a couple of goal is it ok? One last question is about the pitch size.Im using the minimum allowed is it the right one?Thanks a lot.(Sorry for terrible english its not my main)
 
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So what two tactics do you suggest for home and away? And do you believe these tactics are the best in the game?

What is all this about exploiting the game?
 
Kranky123 said:
So what two tactics do you suggest for home and away? And do you believe these tactics are the best in the game?

What is all this about exploiting the game?
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First line of the first post..
 
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