Post Your Frustations Thread

[TZER]

Am I the only one who feel defenders are more or less useless? They fail so many tackles and don't chase after attackers who run past them, I've tried many different defenders over the seasons and it doesn't seem to matter if tackling, anticipation etc. are high. Having tight marking and stand tackles doesn't seem to help either, they still don't seem to mark properly and they still glide tackle a whole lot..

This was present in previous games, but not as bad as 2014, most of the goals scored on my team is due to really stupid defending. Perhaps this is the way the game makes sure you lose some matches, which you do from time to time. But its frustrating to see the exact same "mistakes" happen time and time again and not be able to tune them down or for that matter find a valid way to deal with them short of putting every single player down on defense.

 

[Prequel]

I can't sell Messi at early 31yo for not even £30M when his value is £37M+ and he won best player of the year and about ten more awards. He scored 46 goals in 38 apps with 11 assists and 10 PoMs, Avg Rate being 7.89. I can't sell him! There is ZERO interest, it's not that other teams can't afford his wage. They're not even interested. There is zero activity.

I can't sell James Rodriguez for no more than £35M who just passed his 27th birthday whose value is £27.5M and he scored 26, assisted 24, PoM'd 7 times in 35 apps with 8.09 Avg with again a dozen of awards!

I can't also sell 26yo Neymar. I tried to sell him in previous window, just to see if there was interest and there were no interest for him! His value was (and still is) £60M, I offered him for the same money and there were zero interest!

I also can't sell £12.75M valued 31yo Pique either for no more than £5M. I accept he degraded a bit but he definitely worths £13M...

And who am I able to sell? Angel Correa whose a complete no one whose value is £10M only after signing a new contract, who was valued £500K before that and played only 7 matches in his last 2 years... for £21.5M!

And don't give me the age ****. IRL Suarez is 27yo and he's banned for 4 months and still he got transferred for £80M. Now I don't expect complete reality but do you honestly believe Messi wouldn't worth even £30M IRL when he just entered his 31th years birthday? He played exactly like RL in the game for me and my tactics don't even usually make ST (which is where I play him) the top goal scorer. Or do you honestly think that James Rodriguez wouldn't worth at least £50M IRL at 27yo? He basically won the entire football manager game for me, he was absoultely god-like, the only reason I'm trying to sell him is because I'm bored of having players with familiar names and I want to make the game a bit harder by playing promising players (I bought 22yo Alen Halilovic instead, for £25.5M... and now the game is basically telling me the two players I last mentioned worth equally!)

This game is a complete BS.

(Ps: To prevent any possible misunderstandings: I won my last season with 104 pts with 105 G.D. ...)

 

[mdmdmd123]

i always seem to choose the wrong option when talking to a player on loan.. they play **** you say they do they say "im good enough to play for this team and wont be happy if im dropped" say he is doing well, he disagrees. talk about his development he will disagree.. only one i get right is the training facility one IF the team has good facilities..

 

[SFolio]

I readed all from 2674 posts in this tread ( yea i have too much free time ) , and all i read is that 2 people defending SI and his crazy ME, while other 100+ ppls telling their frustations.

WJ u speak like real expert for this game, like u know everthing. But only u do, is telling ppls that their tactics are quilty for all that hapends.

I dint seen any of ur master piece works and tactics, nothing to support ur words. I would like to see some of your work, just so i can respect u.


I stand with other when they say that oponents 2.5 star keeper is better then 5 star keeper in team controled byhumans.
10-15 CCC by huma team dont means nothing, but 1 CCC from Ai is 100% goal, even if that was their only shoot on goal, in most of time that 1 dont need to be CCC but they score.
95% one on one are misses, but AI dont need even that, in a lots of chases they score from 30m or more.
DC's miss passes to oponent and then dont even try to defend.
And a lots of more.

FM12 was unrealistic, ST scores over 80 goals, planty exploits, in FM13 SI tried to fix that and they ruined game. In FM14 they tried to make more realitic game and failed too much. But, better unrealistic FM12 then broken FM14.

Most frustated for me was traveling 420km in both direction to buy game( in my contry there is no place where u can buy original games), so i spent 40e on game, and close to 100e on traveling ( average sallary here is about 250e), and all that for nothing. This is 100% last FM game I bought.

Good thing is I have too much free time, so last 2 month i'm working on original fm14 database for fm12. So far over 400K changes, CA/PA, ages, transfers, wonderkids etc. Soon it will be finished and i can again have fun playing FM.

Most important, real purpose of playing games is to have fun. SI should think of it before they finish FM15. Bring players more then enough fun so they can spend 50e on your product, because players deserve that.

WJ gives people tips and trys to rationalise their way of thinking, by telling them (correctly) that it is their tactics//players, and not the matches being fixed.

You're simply doing the same as other people, by saying that 1 CCC for the AI is 100% a goal, which it clearly isn't. You can think that the game favours the AI if you want, but by doing that you're limiting the help you can get yourself and you're going to enjoy the game a lot less.
'95% one on one are misses'
'10-15 CCC by huma team dont means nothing, but 1 CCC from Ai is 100% goal, even if that was their only shoot on goal, in most of time that 1 dont need to be CCC but they score. '
Where are you getting these stats from? Making up stats to try and make yourself feel better by saying that the game is fixed doesn't help anybody.

 

[LedleysKnee]

It might have been a blocked CCC(s) as well. Yes, that is possible and it shows how misleading stats can be. We have no idea since all you post are worthless stats. If you're really that convinced, post the PKM or your save. THEN we talk.

WJ, what is a PKM? I don't know about the poster you've replied to but I will happily post mine.

I do think this years game has been riddled with problems. It does favour the AI and there is a lot of luck involved. Keep reloading a save from the same point and you'll see a wide variety of results, from one team hammering another to the opposite happening despite the same tactics being used. Of course that happens in football but the rate on this game is pretty astonishing.

 

[WJ]

WJ, what is a PKM? I don't know about the poster you've replied to but I will happily post mine.

I do think this years game has been riddled with problems. It does favour the AI and there is a lot of luck involved. Keep reloading a save from the same point and you'll see a wide variety of results, from one team hammering another to the opposite happening despite the same tactics being used. Of course that happens in football but the rate on this game is pretty astonishing.

Go back to any previous match or the match you just played. You'll see a "save match" option (top left, I think) and you can save a .pkm of that match that can be watched back in FM by anyone.

It's only around 100kb, so it doesn't take up a lot of space. We have to have the same version of FM though, 14.3.1 for example.

 

[Mike.]

WJ, what is a PKM? I don't know about the poster you've replied to but I will happily post mine.

I do think this years game has been riddled with problems. It does favour the AI and there is a lot of luck involved. Keep reloading a save from the same point and you'll see a wide variety of results, from one team hammering another to the opposite happening despite the same tactics being used. Of course that happens in football but the rate on this game is pretty astonishing.

The ME cant favour the AI because it can't tell the difference between the two. There is more to a game than tactics. The players are not robots, they will not do the exact same thing every time.

I've never understood the point about reloading, because you can't reload real life, so the comparison doesnt work. But to you actually think if you could, that it would play out the exact same way?

 

[Jean-Luc]

I hate how your total value of players bought/sold resets I've sold about £3.5b worth of players but it resets somewhere around the 2billion mark.

Total value of players bought is £603 million (Never reset) in case you were wondering.

 

[Mike.]

I hate how your total value of players bought/sold resets I've sold about £3.5b worth of players but it resets somewhere around the 2billion mark.

Total value of players bought is £603 million (Never reset) in case you were wondering.

It cant calculate and show above £2billion, though you still have the 3.5 billion

 

[Dalnath]

Since when did key highlights become about watching 5 minutes of gameplay ending with an offside? Stop wasting my f***ing time

I really hate how the game waits for you to score before it announces that you were offside. It's like SI want you to celebrate the goal just so they can take that joy away from you.

 

[LedleysKnee]

Go back to any previous match or the match you just played. You'll see a "save match" option (top left, I think) and you can save a .pkm of that match that can be watched back in FM by anyone.

It's only around 100kb, so it doesn't take up a lot of space. We have to have the same version of FM though, 14.3.1 for example.

I will do this for you later. If you're wondering I've been using the latest update which I believe is 14.3

The ME cant favour the AI because it can't tell the difference between the two. There is more to a game than tactics. The players are not robots, they will not do the exact same thing every time.

I've never understood the point about reloading, because you can't reload real life, so the comparison doesnt work. But to you actually think if you could, that it would play out the exact same way?

You can't reload real life but if two teams are playing the exact same players and tactics on the exact same day with the same ref, same weather, same officals, players with the exact same morale then it should produce very similar results. There may be a little bit of variation due to luck but not much at all.

Take for example the saying 'On another day it could have been...' on Football Manager there's such a ridiculous variety of results, you can play a game and win 5-1 and reload it and the result will be the exact opposite.

Let me ask you, IF you could reload real life to a few weeks back do you think Brazil would have beaten Germany 7-1? Of course not! You could do it a thousand times over and it still wouldn't work. But with this FM that variation DOES exist and I've noticed it go from very minimal to beyond ridiculous with each and every new release.

 

[LedleysKnee]

Just announced my preliminary England World Cup squad.

The media criticze me for picking 'out of form cleverley' ahead of 'inform Carrick'

But Cleverley has played 14 games with a 6.91 average rating. Carrick has played 15 games with a 6.94 average rating!

They also said that me picking Ben Foster ahead of Jason Steele shows I am picking players based on reputation rather than form but then go on to say that picking Charlie Austin ahead of Defoe is silly as Defoe has a better reputation. :O

 

[LiamOT]

My right back just got 8.0 rating in a match.

So I thought I praise him for such a performance.

He then throws the praise right back in my face saying that he's surprised I was happy with a 8.0 performance.

Good morale down to Okay, and we all know how important morale is in this game.

Really?

 

[Dalnath]

My right back just got 8.0 rating in a match.

So I thought I praise him for such a performance.

He then throws the praise right back in my face saying that he's surprised I was happy with a 8.0 performance.

Good morale down to Okay, and we all know how important morale is in this game.

Really?

Some players just seem to react badly to praise. In my PSG save, every time I praise Blaise Matuidi he says he's surprised by my praise even when he scores above 8 rating. I just don't bother praising him anymore.

 

[Doveless]

I don't know how it's possible for your team to be consistent in this game. On my Arsenal save I beat Chelsea 4-2 away (Chelsea being top) and Spurs 5-1 at home, while also drawing 2-2 at home to Cardiff, losing 1-0 at home to Newcastle and 3-1 at home to Villa in the same few weeks. I do very well in the domestic cups (Won FA Cup first season and already won League Cup in my second with the save in March after getting to the final first season) but I can never translate this to the League. Looks like I'm finishing 7th this year.

 

[louiscfc]

I don't know how it's possible for your team to be consistent in this game. On my Arsenal save I beat Chelsea 4-2 away (Chelsea being top) and Spurs 5-1 at home, while also drawing 2-2 at home to Cardiff, losing 1-0 at home to Newcastle and 3-1 at home to Villa in the same few weeks. I do very well in the domestic cups (Won FA Cup first season and already won League Cup in my second with the save in March after getting to the final first season) but I can never translate this to the League. Looks like I'm finishing 7th this year.

What did you set your squad win bonus' to? I actually find this has quite a big impact on motivating the players for a certain competition.

 

[Wallyson]

Beating Atletico Madrid 6-1 at home and then losing 2-0 to Valencia (all poor morale or worse) without creating a single chance even tho i did everything in my power to change it.

Team Morale gets ******, we lose again and draw two games, i rage, throw a banana peel at my little brother and delete the save.

****.

 

[Doveless]

What did you set your squad win bonus' to? I actually find this has quite a big impact on motivating the players for a certain competition.

They were all normal I believe, but it seems like however many times players look "motivated" or "fired up" they will still go on to play like **** in the next game.

 

[Doveless]

You mean like this?

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Its important to keep team moral on high, otherwise u will lose more games then u can win. Few users reported that after February in 2nd season their team start to play badly. Maybe having and playing backup tactic could help you.

I had same opinion like you few days ago, then i readed Raikan team talks tread, and few other tutorial and etc.

And guess what, after u have some knowledge about game, have good approach to tactic and team moral its easy to win games, like u play FM12 with grid tactic. And those random mistakes from my players, like GK gives away ball to oponent who then scores, players who always miss CCC, AI teams often scores from long shots in last minutes of game, conciding from set pieces etc. are now minimal. They hapend sometimes but that is maybe once or twice in 20 games.



And i want to thanks WJ, after all, reading his comments in this tread i learned a lot, and now i have fun while playing.

I will check these out, cheers mate

 

[Mike.]

I will do this for you later. If you're wondering I've been using the latest update which I believe is 14.3



You can't reload real life but if two teams are playing the exact same players and tactics on the exact same day with the same ref, same weather, same officals, players with the exact same morale then it should produce very similar results. There may be a little bit of variation due to luck but not much at all.

Take for example the saying 'On another day it could have been...' on Football Manager there's such a ridiculous variety of results, you can play a game and win 5-1 and reload it and the result will be the exact opposite.

Let me ask you, IF you could reload real life to a few weeks back do you think Brazil would have beaten Germany 7-1? Of course not! You could do it a thousand times over and it still wouldn't work. But with this FM that variation DOES exist and I've noticed it go from very minimal to beyond ridiculous with each and every new release.

You can't reload real life but if two teams are playing the exact same players and tactics on the exact same day with the same ref, same weather, same officals, players with the exact same morale then it should produce very similar results. There may be a little bit of variation due to luck but not much at all.

Not true at all, if all the decisons made by players are differerent, then the scenario becomes COMPLETELY different.

What makes you say it couldnt have happened in a thousand times. I'm not sure we'd see Germany win 7-1 in a thousand times. No one saw that result coming.


The whole reloading and comparing to life thing is irrelevant though, because its an impossible comparison. You cant reload real life, it's moot. In fact reloading a rarely tells you anything, because the players (and ref) are not going to make the same decisons again necessarily, which makes everything from moment you have your team talk, completely different.