But it's awesome when the opposite happens. I beat Real Madrid at Bernabeu with just one shot total and on target. They won the leg by 2-1 (They had 36 shots) but I got away because of 1-0 home win.
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I would imagine... but that has never happened to me. If I draw in number of shots with ANYONE, then they MUST win me. The only people that have pulled that off are man utd, chelsea, dortmund, paris-saint germain, barcelona and madrid. And they all defeated me..
I had about 2 or 3 shots more than everyone except madrid, and madrid had 6 or so more than me and won 6-1...guess who scored a hattrick? suarez of course, who i had just sold to them for a cut price of 15 million after he chronically underperformed in every position.
DO you play possession football? Because I've often found that never results in goals, just shots. As everyone gets crowded in opposition box and the players try simple shot at the Goalkeeper. Not everyone can pass the ball into back of the net like Barcelona. I play high tempo counter-attacking game, even against lower oppositions. I score 4-5 goals with ease even with 10-11 shots.
Possession game has never yielded good results for me, never did on FM13, doesn't really do on FM14.
Just finished another match.... This is the result
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I don't play a possession game.i play pure counter-attacking with a much higher tempo, deep defensive line, i don't retain the ball, and only my defensive players pass short..through so much effort i have been able to prevent my retarded players from cracking too many long shots.... The problem is they just do not score...You would not believe it unless you saw this for yourself man.... EVERY SINGLE GOALKEEPER I FACE IS A GOD!!!... I swear, Even when i score 5 goals in a match, the goalkeeper still has about 10 saves... I have clear cut chances, and what have you, but every opposition keeper is insanely good. EVERY ONE!!!... morata misses at least 2 one on one chance per game, and his finishing, composure,flair and decision are above 18... And my goalkeeper??...Throughout the match my pressing gives him so little to do, but when he is called on?....nothing... Always nothing.... This is not a bug, this is the game telling me a F**K YOU and your 40 dollars... Every player i get sucks... Here are some before and after I sold them...notice their time at liverpool....
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I just can't anymore, I just can't... Realism is one thing, but managers get paid to put up with this bullsh*t...
I want to have fun, and a few dry spells makes it challenging, but when nothing works it's just pathetic... Sports interactive can suck my black balls... I'm only playing my xbox as from now...
Yeah, the goalkeeper thing is frustrating. Every GK I face gets a rating of 8+, but Idk I think it's just my luck or because I'm Mourinho fan, I always grind out 1-0, 2-1 narrow wins.
Thank you, Thank you xD I think I just did what Mourinho's doing with him, instead of possession football which leads to crowded space in the box and he suffers, I provided him with space, he feeds on through balls, got 17 pace 15 acceleration, he'll get em, beat the last defender by his running and score one from two or three chances.
I do use retain possession instruction but I don't use shorter passing/work ball into the box. I use Run at defense, high tempo. I also leave my defense line normal, Play wider and look for overlap. I have individual instructions for IFs to Stay wide. (I wanted them to Roam from position but that resulted in a toooooooo narrow setup (Analysis - Average position showed that all of my Attacking players were in center, greedy bastards xD.)
Edit: I'm way too risky when it comes to tactics, I changed my tactics just before my UCL final, yes, just 1 week before. I went whole season using 5-6 tactics I guess, I also make heavy tactical changes during match according to situation. It's been successful for me, 64 Total matches, Won 55, Drew 5, Lost 4.
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Dominated a game against southampton using arsenal, i got 26 shots, 18 on target, 8 HCs, 4 CCCs, while southamp just have 3 shots.
Lost 0-2. Both goals are long shot. Arg, cost me my automatic ECC, going to ECC playoffs . ****
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Lost 0-2. Both goals are long shot. Arg, cost me my automatic ECC, going to ECC playoffs . ****
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Anyone know when the next patch is due? Still not bought the game yet, want it to be playable before I do.
Never before have I taken a side away to the reigning European champions (In my save), beaten them and still been annoyed...
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So, acknowledging that some of the same issues exist each year--e.g. "I dominate games but lose 0-1," and "my strikers miss easy chances"--I think the problem actually comes from confusion about what the tools player are given actually mean. That is, players are not sure how the match engine exactly interprets some of their commands, or how other tactical choices might conflict with those commands.
Some examples:
-if I have "short passing" and "attacking" selected, will players sometimes skip a short pass in favor of a pass that might carve open the other team?
-Why do my fullbacks sometimes clear needlessly? Is this because they have low "decisions" or because of my mentality or passing setting or fluidity setting?
-If I have "work ball into box" selected, but my players keep taking long shots, is it because of a PPM, unfamiliarity with the tactic, "Attacking" setting?
And considering how absurdly detailed each player's stats and tactical styles are, it's probably no surprise that hidden stats like "motivation" and "confidence," which play a MASSIVE role in the game's "slumps" (the cause of what seems like a large percentage of cumulative player angst) are so frustrating. How many players are aware of the importance of a player's personality?
To sum up: it seems like a lot of the frustration comes from "I think X is happening, and my evidence is A and B." But really, Y is happening, and while A and B may be true, players don't know about C and D. Hopefully that makes at least a little sense...
Some examples:
-if I have "short passing" and "attacking" selected, will players sometimes skip a short pass in favor of a pass that might carve open the other team?
-Why do my fullbacks sometimes clear needlessly? Is this because they have low "decisions" or because of my mentality or passing setting or fluidity setting?
-If I have "work ball into box" selected, but my players keep taking long shots, is it because of a PPM, unfamiliarity with the tactic, "Attacking" setting?
And considering how absurdly detailed each player's stats and tactical styles are, it's probably no surprise that hidden stats like "motivation" and "confidence," which play a MASSIVE role in the game's "slumps" (the cause of what seems like a large percentage of cumulative player angst) are so frustrating. How many players are aware of the importance of a player's personality?
To sum up: it seems like a lot of the frustration comes from "I think X is happening, and my evidence is A and B." But really, Y is happening, and while A and B may be true, players don't know about C and D. Hopefully that makes at least a little sense...
If you are talking about lack of information I agree. But then you cannot give too much away without spoon feeding the player, tough balance, but one the game can certainly improve on
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Valid point. Especially because real-life football isn't "X leads to Y," it'd be horribly disappointing if the game became a series of if-then statements.
My question is--and I don't have an answer to this--what sorts of confusion is fun, and what is the sort of frustrating that sends players running to forums to post the sort of things that give moderators fits (i.e. are either objectively untrue or have been posted dozens of times and are known bugs/being worked on)?
I think it'd be okay if it was more clear how the game engine interpreted tactical instructions, though maybe that's more complicated than I think it is. For example, the description of "control" says its probing, moving the ball around the pitch quickly, looking for an opening. But if I combine it with "direct passing," is some of that description then totally moot? Or is some of my "direct passing to players in attacking positions" partially moot? Or neither?
Controlling is player's mentality more than playing style. A player will play with attacking mentality with Control and defensive with Counter. Direct passing and shorter passing is the style you'd want to play. Players will pass shorter or more direct depending on instructions. It's better to match Counter with Direct, you can use either on Control (Depends on the way you want the team to play), watch the full match sometime and you'll see the difference.
Never thought this day would come. I give up on FM. Simply.
I consider that I've a good tactical knowledge but failed to put this on FM. As I was playing last year mostly with other users tactics, this year I want to change things and motivate me to put "my things" on the game and maybe share a tactic here to help people in the same situation.
But somehow I keep failing and failing. I'm not blaming the game, the ME or anything special. I just can't win and my players delivers it miserably. Just want to enjoy the game I paid with some options made by me but somehow I keep failing on this.
I don't know. Will the ME be patched soon? I mean, the game is great and as brought me much joy over the years but this year it's a bit frustrating
Again, I don't blame anything in special. Just want to tell how I feel. I'm sure that will be many people like me out there.
Cheers!
I consider that I've a good tactical knowledge but failed to put this on FM. As I was playing last year mostly with other users tactics, this year I want to change things and motivate me to put "my things" on the game and maybe share a tactic here to help people in the same situation.
But somehow I keep failing and failing. I'm not blaming the game, the ME or anything special. I just can't win and my players delivers it miserably. Just want to enjoy the game I paid with some options made by me but somehow I keep failing on this.
I don't know. Will the ME be patched soon? I mean, the game is great and as brought me much joy over the years but this year it's a bit frustrating
Again, I don't blame anything in special. Just want to tell how I feel. I'm sure that will be many people like me out there.
Cheers!
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Still don't understand depending on what the game decides who win and who lose.
I was 1st with 3 wins out of 3. I played against Juventus (14th, 1W 1D 1L) and at the 3rd attempt I finally succeeded to gain at least a draw (0-0).
The funny thing is that in the first try one of my defenders has been thrown out after 40 seconds!!! It will never happen in real life (unless the player breaks the opponent's leg; well, actually it depends on who is the player. I can clearly remember some weeks ago when a Juventus defender - Chiellini - broke Bergessio's leg and he only got booked)
I was 1st with 3 wins out of 3. I played against Juventus (14th, 1W 1D 1L) and at the 3rd attempt I finally succeeded to gain at least a draw (0-0).
The funny thing is that in the first try one of my defenders has been thrown out after 40 seconds!!! It will never happen in real life (unless the player breaks the opponent's leg; well, actually it depends on who is the player. I can clearly remember some weeks ago when a Juventus defender - Chiellini - broke Bergessio's leg and he only got booked)
3 tries? I'd love that to have in real life.
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Well strangely enough, wingers are no longer all Messi clones in my save, I have not changed full backs or tactics, I have changed my AMC, this is the only change and now the only goals I concede are what I call Fifa goals, **** rebounds!
The game just doesn't seem to do things by halves, its not a case of hitting the post every other game or conceding horrific rebound goals every 2-3 games, it has a run of 10 games in a row with 3 shots hitting the post every game..
Currently 1st with my Wolfsburg save, so very happy with my season and players, it's just painful the way the match engine provides these losses.
The game just doesn't seem to do things by halves, its not a case of hitting the post every other game or conceding horrific rebound goals every 2-3 games, it has a run of 10 games in a row with 3 shots hitting the post every game..
Currently 1st with my Wolfsburg save, so very happy with my season and players, it's just painful the way the match engine provides these losses.
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Never thought this day would come. I give up on FM. Simply.
I consider that I've a good tactical knowledge but failed to put this on FM. As I was playing last year mostly with other users tactics, this year I want to change things and motivate me to put "my things" on the game and maybe share a tactic here to help people in the same situation.
But somehow I keep failing and failing. I'm not blaming the game, the ME or anything special. I just can't win and my players delivers it miserably. Just want to enjoy the game I paid with some options made by me but somehow I keep failing on this.
I don't know. Will the ME be patched soon? I mean, the game is great and as brought me much joy over the years but this year it's a bit frustrating
Again, I don't blame anything in special. Just want to tell how I feel. I'm sure that will be many people like me out there.
Cheers!
Don't blame the ME.
I also think that im good with tactics, but im always failing.
I use others since i don't have the time to test htem, and i suck in atctics.
You are good playing a game, don't try to make it perfect.
I fail, you fail, thanks God someone know how to do tactics. Use them.
Btw, im very good keeping morale up. what are you good?
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Can't sell Robben, can't buy German kids (Schalke wonder boys) for less than 50 Mill...
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