Post Your Frustations Thread

[MisterBurkes]

Ridiculous matches happen. But the chance for those kinds of matches to happen in real-life football is so low compared to FM 2014. That's why we say it is a bad ME.
Why do people post like this again and again....

B/c a lot of people post match stats that aren't that ridiculous, even knowing that the match stats aren't that accurate (like a blocked shot that is slowly redirected to keeper sometimes counts as a shot on target). Bad beats can be minimized through tactics that you adjust and apply yourself, instead of relying on downloaded plug and play tactics. The issues I actually have with the ME are the # of injuries and the # of crossbar hits (for both sides, actually, I've always played on comprehensive and I've seen AI hit crossbar just as many times)

And real-life football has lots of crazy moments, people just don't pay that much attention/remember the ones that aren't in the spotlight. If you've ever watched Argentina vs Brazil in 1990 (group stages), the only reason Argentina scored was because a midfielder + both centerbacks and the right fullback all tried to close down Diego Maradona on the ball lol, 4 man marking left the winger totally unmarked, and Maradona somehow ran from the half to the 6 yard box 1v4 the entire way and then passed through that cluster. The ME can't even simulate how crazy that is.

EDIT: I decided to look it up lol actually the other fullback also went in to close down Maradona. 1v5 op

 

[TonyVilliers]

I'm sorry but the continuously stupid decisions made by players..."Oh I've got the ball in defence, I know, I'll play it across the goal to the..uh oh, the opposition striker has it"...the constant 90+3 conceding from corners, the fact that my strikers can only shoot either miles wide, onto the crossbar, or straight at the keeper, the fact that their entire defence surrounds my player even though he's miles infront of them when he gets the ball (but my defence can't do the same thing).

It's all bollocks. The AI has huge advantages over us. The fact that SI won't let us put 4 defenders on the six yard box for corners and yet the AI can speaks volumes of how they "balance" the matches.

If only one thing was done, I'd like the AI of the goalkeepers nerfed, because that might allow us to score more often, rather than constantly see "just wide" or "skimmed crossbar" or "saved easily".

 

[SMcManus84]

Worst offside decision I've ever seen.

Malcolm who is not offside any way.....Brown passes to Hendry who passes back to Brown....Malcolm offside.


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Noticed an increase in offsides on the latest patch and started checking a few of them, some are quite close but some are very very onside. I don't know if the game has dodgy linesman decisions anyway? doesn't sound like something they would be able to implement well.

 

[zammy67rocks2]

[video=youtube;pUxIzr8Yisw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUxIzr8Yisw&feature=youtu.be[/video]

This is way frustrating.

 

[MisterBurkes]

I've seen disallowed goals for offside that were clearly wrong by watching the 3D goal action highlight. Occasionally, I'm able to complain about it in the post-game press-conference. The problem is that I have yet to see any real repercussion, either the governing board is silent in regards to my protest (because I was right) and nothing happens, or I receive a match suspension (because I was wrong). So it's frustrating in this sense since there's no benefit for me to actually challenge the ref's decision. If there's any benefit please let me know.

Also, Zammy, your vid reminds me of a very similar goal I conceded, similar type of free kick into the box, there's a botched header that hits the ground, and then one of my players tries to slide and clear it out, except it hits the post and goes in for an own goal. And that player also gets injured. lol

 

[Casey12a]

3 games in a row, not really sure what else to do. I think the ME thinks I'm David Moyes.
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[Sinnott99]

I do not think it was over exaggeration.

Well i've not seen a change in my results with LFC save. I havent changed a thing with my tactics.

 

[muino93]

Any way of making uploaded club logos transparent and not make the white background appear?

 

[sneeky09]

FM14 much like FM13 is a great game apart from the match engine aspect. They cannot get it right, i appreciate its hard. But the constant alterations with new patches is not the way to go. Things are always improved to the detriment of others. Perhaps skip a year or two, polish the game make it work and work well upon release, rather than rush something to release with the apparent safety net of patching the game until it is playable. I appreciate it's hard to do some of this stuff, but FM series is the only worthwhile game of it's kind and they've become hugely complacent because they know there is a great demand every year. This year it seems many, on here especially, are losing patience with the constant alteration. I think i'll give fm 15 a miss (not that anyone cares about my plans) not out of spite to the makers but more to allow them time to develop a really great game without the need for constant and drastic alteration mid-game. Which they're certainly capable of. I understand it's not entirely business efficient to release one hugely altered game but rather many slightly altered games, it's obviously more profitable in the long run. So i'll wait until a few of these slightly altered games have finally cracked it.

Very good points but I know ill end up pre-ordering fm15 can't help myself!

 

[Dedinho]

B/c a lot of people post match stats that aren't that ridiculous, even knowing that the match stats aren't that accurate (like a blocked shot that is slowly redirected to keeper sometimes counts as a shot on target). Bad beats can be minimized through tactics that you adjust and apply yourself, instead of relying on downloaded plug and play tactics. The issues I actually have with the ME are the # of injuries and the # of crossbar hits (for both sides, actually, I've always played on comprehensive and I've seen AI hit crossbar just as many times)

And real-life football has lots of crazy moments, people just don't pay that much attention/remember the ones that aren't in the spotlight. If you've ever watched Argentina vs Brazil in 1990 (group stages), the only reason Argentina scored was because a midfielder + both centerbacks and the right fullback all tried to close down Diego Maradona on the ball lol, 4 man marking left the winger totally unmarked, and Maradona somehow ran from the half to the 6 yard box 1v4 the entire way and then passed through that cluster. The ME can't even simulate how crazy that is.

EDIT: I decided to look it up lol actually the other fullback also went in to close down Maradona. 1v5 op

This is what ticks me off. People defending the atrocious ME have to go as far as 20+ years ago to find a extreme weird piece of football which happens in FM14 on a regular basis. By doing that you're not successfully defending FM14 ME, you're just proving the point that this just isn't right.

 

[ILSATS]

B/c a lot of people post match stats that aren't that ridiculous, even knowing that the match stats aren't that accurate (like a blocked shot that is slowly redirected to keeper sometimes counts as a shot on target). Bad beats can be minimized through tactics that you adjust and apply yourself, instead of relying on downloaded plug and play tactics. The issues I actually have with the ME are the # of injuries and the # of crossbar hits (for both sides, actually, I've always played on comprehensive and I've seen AI hit crossbar just as many times)

And real-life football has lots of crazy moments, people just don't pay that much attention/remember the ones that aren't in the spotlight. If you've ever watched Argentina vs Brazil in 1990 (group stages), the only reason Argentina scored was because a midfielder + both centerbacks and the right fullback all tried to close down Diego Maradona on the ball lol, 4 man marking left the winger totally unmarked, and Maradona somehow ran from the half to the 6 yard box 1v4 the entire way and then passed through that cluster. The ME can't even simulate how crazy that is.

EDIT: I decided to look it up lol actually the other fullback also went in to close down Maradona. 1v5 op

You should stop defending the ME like this. It's not good for your health. Most of us here are veterans at the game who have been playing since the CM series over 10 years ago, and have watched thousands of football matches in our lives . We know and we understand what we've experienced in the game. Your arguments sound like child-play to us.

 

[MisterBurkes]

You should stop defending the ME like this. It's not good for your health. Most of us here are veterans at the game who have been playing since the CM series over 10 years ago, and have watched thousands of football matches in our lives . We know and we understand what we've experienced in the game. Your arguments sound like child-play to us.

My point is that many of these posts are exaggerated (I'll look at a screenshot and think, yes you deserved to lose 2-1 not 3-0 or 4-0, but its not that outlandish); however, some are blown out of proportion analogous to extreme examples in footballing history.

And for the other guy who posted before you, well how about USA vs Spain 2009, gg. I think USA had like 3 shots on target.

 

[ILSATS]

?
If that's your opinion on those ridiculous screenshots, then I'm sorry but it sound like you are a child who has only watched a couple matches of football before.

 

[Mike.]

You should stop defending the ME like this. It's not good for your health. Most of us here are veterans at the game who have been playing since the CM series over 10 years ago, and have watched thousands of football matches in our lives . We know and we understand what we've experienced in the game. Your arguments sound like child-play to us.

I could say the same about this post. It just sounds rude, without offering any counter point. In fact if you were to take that attitude to the SI thread you would ignored or argument pulled apart by those far better placed in the game than yourself (such as those who work on it). If you don't believe me, try doing so.

Just because you've been playing 10 years doesnt make you infallible. The game has massively changed in 10 years, the ME miles more advanced. Honestly take this to someone like wwfan ( who actually knows the match engine almost as well as the creators themselves, and worked on the TC)

Dedinho, you actually tried to post on the SI thread and were promptly corrected on this, so more than bemused why you post the same thing here.

 

[Mike.]

I'm sorry but the continuously stupid decisions made by players..."Oh I've got the ball in defence, I know, I'll play it across the goal to the..uh oh, the opposition striker has it"...the constant 90+3 conceding from corners, the fact that my strikers can only shoot either miles wide, onto the crossbar, or straight at the keeper, the fact that their entire defence surrounds my player even though he's miles infront of them when he gets the ball (but my defence can't do the same thing).

It's all bollocks. The AI has huge advantages over us. The fact that SI won't let us put 4 defenders on the six yard box for corners and yet the AI can speaks volumes of how they "balance" the matches.

If only one thing was done, I'd like the AI of the goalkeepers nerfed, because that might allow us to score more often, rather than constantly see "just wide" or "skimmed crossbar" or "saved easily".

The AI doesnt have huge advantages over us. let's not spread this because it's wrong.

The Zonal marking issue is a very late interface one not an ME one, its the ability to tell a player to mark the 6 yard box, but SI forgot to code it so that you could pick more than one player to do something defensively in the set piece creator (by the way, the zonal marking is average, its actually tremendously easy to beat, I wouldnt use it if i had the choice.)

 

[Mike.]

Ridiculous matches happen. But the chance for those kinds of matches to happen in real-life football is so low compared to FM 2014. That's why we say it is a bad ME.
Why do people post like this again and again....

It doesn't happen as often in real life, because managers tend to be more pro active tha game players in FM. After all, if we are playing the same game, why do some people never experience it?

 

[MisterBurkes]

?
If that's your opinion on those ridiculous screenshots, then I'm sorry but it sound like you are a child who has only watched a couple matches of football before.

^not really worth giving a response considering how illogical you sound but i'll add one last comment anyway

You're playing a game. Learn to play the game according to the rules of the game (ME). That means the game runs on tactics and stats. Including annoying hidden stats you can't see like player consistency (which is why your 5 star striker might be missing a bunch of "clear cut chances, whatever that's supposed to mean"). You're conceding 90+3' corners? Why do you not have possession of the ball from 80 minutes onward till the whistle if you had actually switched to a defensive, retain possession, shorter passing, and pull your strikers back to crowd your midfield in order to hold onto a 1 goal lead. I can produce probably a hundred screenshots where I held onto a 1 goal lead for an entire half as a lower league team vs a top league team (2-3 star players vs 4-5 star players across the board). Tactics bro.

You want 100% realism...well you know what has 100% realism when it comes to managing football? Going to your local football club and becoming the manager.

 

[Mike.]

Haha the next match right after the above one.
I don't know what to say anymore.

You took 11 long shots from 20 overall.

How did you set up, and what did you do try and get the result.

 

[MisterBurkes]

You took 11 long shots from 20 overall.

How did you set up, and what did you do try and get the result.

Rofl I just saw his screenshot, ILSATS, did you notice you had 16 corners and 0 goals? Either everyone on your team is short and has terrible heading (in which case you should be only using short option and then drilling those crosses in with someone to flick it in near post) or you have configured the individual set piece instructions improperly (if you haven't figured it out by now, anything where you click automatic is automatically subpar)

16 corners usually translates into 2-3 goals in my saves and I don't even have specialized strikers/defenders for heading.

 

[TonyVilliers]

2 - 0 up with 3 minutes to go. On counter mentality. Corner to stoke 2 - 1. 90+3, Corner to stoke. 2 -2 OG by my defense. This game is a ******* joke. I keep playing it in the hope something might work. But the AI is determined to have its way.

**** SI's BS.