No one's saying Ancelotti is a bad manager though?!
Bad managers don't win:
Extremadura
Tenerife
- Segunda División
- Promotion (1): 1997–98
Valencia
- Segunda División
- Winner (1): 2000–01
Liverpool
Internazionale
- UEFA Champions League
- Premier League
- Runner Up (1): 2008-09
- FA Cup
- Winner (1): 2005–06
- League Cup
- Runner Up (1): 2004-05
- FA Community Shield
- Winner (1): 2006
- UEFA Super Cup
- Winner (1): 2005
- FIFA Club World Cup
- Runner Up (1): 2005
- Supercoppa Italiana
- Winner (1): 2010
- UEFA Super Cup
- Runner Up (1): 2010
- FIFA Club World Cup
- Winner (1): 2010
Winning trophys dosen't make you a good manager. Harry Redknapp has only won 1 trophy in his managirial carear and he is lauded.
To Be fair Alex, i think what he meant was, That good managers dont always win trophies and winning trophies doesn't ALWAYS make you a good manager. Some times you win Trophies because of the team you have. Scolari is an prime example of this, He won the world cup with a brazillian side i think my cat could of won it with.... But he still won the world cup, Doesn't make him a world beater.I'm sorry, WHAT?!?!?! At big clubs it is about winning trophies and that is what he did. Redknapp was lauded for the work done with smaller clubs than Liverpool where it isn't all about winning this, that and the other.
I'm sorry, WHAT?!?!?! At big clubs it is about winning trophies and that is what he did. Redknapp was lauded for the work done with smaller clubs than Liverpool where it isn't all about winning this, that and the other.
But if you look at the sides he has been putting out, Very few are going to have them 7th.
To Be fair Alex, i think what he meant was, That good managers dont always win trophies and winning trophies doesn't ALWAYS make you a good manager. Some times you win Trophies because of the team you have. Scolari is an prime example of this, He won the world cup with a brazillian side i think my cat could of won it with.... But he still won the world cup, Doesn't make him a world beater.
But i think Pool feel they have a given right to be winning trophys and you don't you were a sensational side 20-30 years ago but not since. Maybe the fact is you have had your turn and now its the turn of other sides.
That man is unbelievable mate, I remember a baffling 2 hour press conference he held pointing out the 'luck' the top 2 clubs get in games in the premier leagues and referee's apparent favouritismTo be honest Moratti is not a man to be trifled with and Rafa has really done himself over with the outburst
That's a good point, but then you can look at the other end of the spectrum and say that Rafa won the Champions League with the likes of Djimi Traore, Smicer, Baros etc etc... Which lets be honest, was an appalling squad to have.
No one has a right to be winning trophies at all, but everyone has a right to challenge for them. When you see the squad we have, it should at least be challenging for an FA Cup of something like that, most Liverpool fans would love to just challenge for a few trophies in a season nowadays.
Agreed. Shame he hasn't had that team to choose from for most of the season and has been playing youth players to cover for the injuries. Odd that the Inter fans in Italy are mainly behind him though. Weird, eh?
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@Mike - think Rafa's astute enough to know that calling Moratti out would lead to Moratti sacking him. He said it himself when calling him out Andersred did a good blog piece on Inter some months back - financials there are appalling and that squad does need rejuvenating as it's aging fast. But Moratti is adamant that it's fine and Mourinho has left him a lasting legacy as opposed to buying a team of expensive and aging 'stars' who are heading downhill fast (cf Chelsea).
You talk about the old squad but Jose didn't do too bad with it did he...?
Also @the person who posted what Benitez has won.
When you compare it to the managers round him at the time of winning his competitions his record is awful. He won minor cups really apart from the Champs League
He won the spanish league and broke the stranglehold of Real Madrid and Barca :S Really not sure how you can say that.