Raikan007's Borussia Dortmund: Jurgen Klopp's Recreation tactic 13.3.3

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I'm trying this out with Ajax. I'm unbeaten in the league, but in Europe I'm struggling to keep clean sheets and hold on to leads. Played 3 games in the CL so far and have drawn them all. I've also noticed that I struggle to create clear cut chances, even with the match prep set to attacking movement. The build up play is fantastic, but I seem to have about 15 shots to 1 or 2 goals. I do have a young squad though and hardly any money to spend, so that could be a big reason. Defensively it's solid, especially at home. The only problem I have away from home is that the wing backs get a bit of a hammering from opposition wingers, so I set them as full backs with a supporting duty, that seems to have worked. I've also changed the BWM to defend rather than support and changed the DLP to support instead of defend, seems to make more sense to me considering I only have two defensive midfielders.
 
I am with Manchester united using Raikan007's Dortmund Updated Tactic My team is :

GK: De gea
RB: Rafeal
CB: Varane
CB: Vidic
LB: Alaba
BWM: Sandro
DLP: Thiago Alcantara
IFR: Bale
AP: Mesut Özil
IFL: Hazard
P: Cavani/Lewandoski/Van Persie

I'm in first season ( adjusted my budget ) At the start was winning with 4-6 goals now November time i seem to win 1-0 with 20+ shots with 3 on target I haven't changed any of the settings, only using shouts like get forward when at home away i don't use any, i let my assistant ( Jorge Valdano) to the team talks/opposition instructions and match prep ) training is now attacking (high)

Any help would be great
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I am with Manchester united using Raikan007's Dortmund Updated Tactic My team is :

GK: De gea
RB: Rafeal
CB: Varane
CB: Vidic
LB: Alaba
BWM: Sandro
DLP: Thiago Alcantara
IFR: Bale
AP: Mesut Özil
IFL: Hazard
P: Cavani/Lewandoski/Van Persie

I'm in first season ( adjusted my budget ) At the start was winning with 4-6 goals now November time i seem to win 1-0 with 20+ shots with 3 on target I haven't changed any of the settings, only using shouts like get forward when at home away i don't use any, i let my assistant ( Jorge Valdano) to the team talks/opposition instructions and match prep ) training is now attacking (high)

Any help would be great
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Don't worry just started using your team talk guide and is working very well since ( the Spurs capital one cup final)


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Orite raikan, what changes have you made to the tactics with this new update you have made?? Anything major or just little tweaks and have you tried it yourself?? That last one sounds abit of a stupid question :P

um a few little changes here and there mate, nothing too hectic! the tactic worked perfectly as is but after a review it seemed like it had a few little things that needed changing which I addressed..


the testing was only done for like 10 games or so, giving the amount of time to gel etc not enough for the squad :)
 
This tactic has brought me to 1st in the prem by December so must be considered a success, one issue I am having though is the low ratings of the inside forwards, I currently play Greizmann or Schlurrle on the left who are both equally ineffective with like 5 assists and 2 goals between them so far, and Douglas Costa or Sterling on the right, Sterling is doing great but Costa with better stats is almost as ineffective as the two left sided wingers. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.

nice mate :)

that is a first, the IF's on my save and others have been their best players

maybe use exploit flanks and run at defence shouts
 
I started with this tactic (original version) with Newcastle and in the first three seasons I have won everything possible (Premier League, CL, FA,...). Won Premier League on the first season. And finished third and second on the following two seasons. In the fourth season the troubles in the Premier League started. Finished barely 5th but still... won FA-cup and Champions league. I have done great in Champions League. Reaching the final every time, winning twice and losing once to Chelsea.

My biggest problem in the 4th season seemed to be that my defence leaked like a motherf****r and the same seems to continue in the 5th season. And in my opinion I have have pretty solid defenders (Corchia, Santon, S. Taylor, Kirchoff, Cieran Clark, Alderweireld). I dont get why the tactic worked so well the first three seasons Premier League seasons but not anymore. I get run over by pretty much every "big team".

well done mate, that is a great achievement!

I would start making small changes to the tactic, after a while the AI seem (still debatable) to "learn" your tactics and counter it...

just increase tempo/width, change defensive line etc..
 
Don't worry just started using your team talk guide and is working very well since ( the Spurs capital one cup final)


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fantastic mate :) much better! the one thing I was going to say that would be the problem is that YOU are not doing team talks etc.. and THIS is a MUST!! no matter how good your AM is it adds nothing to the players...

YOU need to manage them, not your AM :)

glad to see some great results there buddy, long may they continue
 
Raikan007 first of all thank you for this nice tactic. The second season in a row MU goes for triple crown in England.
However as Im using it only on Home matches I have one reflection - the AMC player is not working good as it could be.
For examples with Fight For Arena V11 from Zero Sea my AMC (Jack Wilshere) always finishing league with massive ammount of assists (15+) but with this tactic this player is not working well like others.
Can you look at it ?
 
um a few little changes here and there mate, nothing too hectic! the tactic worked perfectly as is but after a review it seemed like it had a few little things that needed changing which I addressed..


the testing was only done for like 10 games or so, giving the amount of time to gel etc not enough for the squad :)

Do i download the updated tactic by just downloading it again or is there a different link for the updated version??
 
Raikan007 first of all thank you for this nice tactic. The second season in a row MU goes for triple crown in England.
However as Im using it only on Home matches I have one reflection - the AMC player is not working good as it could be.
For examples with Fight For Arena V11 from Zero Sea my AMC (Jack Wilshere) always finishing league with massive ammount of assists (15+) but with this tactic this player is not working well like others.
Can you look at it ?

you are more than welcome to copy and paste those AMC settings into this tactic mate.. I feel the AMC does exactly what I want in the tactic and does exactly what Gotze and other AMC's do for Dortmund in real life.. hence the tactic is the way it is
 
well done mate, that is a great achievement!

I would start making small changes to the tactic, after a while the AI seem (still debatable) to "learn" your tactics and counter it...

just increase tempo/width, change defensive line etc..

I started using the updated tactic and ticked the focus passing off. So, even though the 5th season started poorly I still managed to to win everything, except the FA-Cup. Including the Premier Title the second time and the Champions League third time (second in a row). Also the 6th season has started off pretty good.

All-in-all a great tactic! At the moment my only "problem" is that the team chairman doesnt seem to appreciate me enough and doesnt give in to my requests at all! ;)
 
Hi Raikan, it's been a while!

Gonna give this a whirl to see how it goes in a Chelsea save(they were in relegation places when i took over).

As regards the Training, i know you say you switch it up between Att Mov/Def Pos depending on the opposition, but do you keep Team Cohesion on during the season too or do you change it to something else?
 
Lovely. Gonna try with BvB to see if they could play just like in the real life.... ;)
 
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@Raikan007;

what to do with penalty's and red cards, you're version 2 gets a lot of these..maybe a tip?
 
My 1st match went well I think, got a 3-1 win against Bilbao in friendly...... Adam Campbell got a brace (a good bargain if you ask me) !!! But, we lost possession..... a tip to won the possession I think ?
 
Striker isnt much effective :(

who are you playing upfront mate? and who are you playing behind and outwide.. its all about build up play mate.. he cant do anything if he is not getting the correct service
 
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