Diego Lopez (Villarreal), David De Gea (Atletico Madrid), Cesar Azpilicueta (Osasuna); Marcos Senna (Villarreal) and Santi Cazorla (Villarreal); Dani Guiza (Fenerbahce) and Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
Spanish final 23 men World Cup squad announced
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Diego Lopez (Villarreal), David De Gea (Atletico Madrid), Cesar Azpilicueta (Osasuna); Marcos Senna (Villarreal) and Santi Cazorla (Villarreal); Dani Guiza (Fenerbahce) and Alvaro Negredo (Sevilla)
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Who was the mpst unluckiest to not be included? Sorry I dont follow spanish football
Senna, he was a beast in Euro 2008. The rest are pretty lame to be honest.
Spain - 82
David Silva - 8
David Villa - 21
Fernando Torres - 18
Pedro Rodriguez - 12
Fernando Llorente - 14
Juan Mata - 9
England - 78
Wayne Rooney - 26
Darren Bent - 24
Peter Crouch - 7
Jermaine Defoe - 18
Emile Heskey - 3
It's closer than I thought it would bePlus these are league goals only, I couldn't be bothered to go through every competition!
And even Spain's defence is better than the English. Pique probably the best centre back in the world, Puyol is not bad and Ramos is one of the best right backs in the world.
Will you make up your mind on what nationality you are (A)
Disagree, Over the last two years Puyol and Pique have been fantastic. A fantastic due and the defensive record proves it.
Glen Johnson is nowhere near the level that Sergio Ramos is,for one Ramos can defend. He is just as fast as Johnson and is great with set pieces.
Spain have a fantastic defence. They are a much better unit than England
Again I disagree.
Fantastic squad, by far the best. I just wonder if there reputation as 'bottlers' will hit again?
Where is Silva? He injured? Not that Mata isn't just as amazing..
Casilias>................................................Hart
Ramos>Johnson
Pique>Terry
Puyol = Ferdinand
Capdevilla<Cole
Pedro>Lennon
Xaxi>Lampard
Fabregas>Gerrard
Iniesta>Walcott
Rooney>Villa
Torres>Heskey XD
England are better in two positions
Ramos>Johnson
Pique>Terry
Puyol = Ferdinand
Capdevilla<Cole
Pedro>Lennon
Xaxi>Lampard
Fabregas>Gerrard
Iniesta>Walcott
Rooney>Villa
Torres>Heskey XD
England are better in two positions
Casilias>................................................Hart
Ramos>Johnson
Pique>Terry
Puyol = Ferdinand
Capdevilla<Cole
Pedro>Lennon
Xaxi>Lampard
Fabregas>Gerrard
Iniesta>Walcott
Rooney>Villa
Torres>Heskey XD
England are better in two positions
I would go along with this, although I don't think they will play that system. Players like Fabregas and Pedro are not likely to start which is ridiculous considering the seasons they have had.
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Guiza is better than Llorente. Id say Spain are going to be a real mountain for other teams.
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Fabregas doesnt start usually- Alonso.
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Casilias>................................................Hart
Ramos>Johnson
Pique>Terry
Puyol = Ferdinand
Capdevilla<Cole
Pedro>Lennon
Xaxi>Lampard
Fabregas>Gerrard
Iniesta>Walcott
Rooney>Villa
Torres>Heskey XD
England are better in two positions
Fabregas doesnt start usually- Alonso.
Spain might have the best squad but they are beatable. They can have the best in every position but when it comes to world cups Brazil, Germany and Italians are the best. No matter what squad Germany has, they always perform well, No one gave Brazil a chance in 2002 when they scrapped through qualifiers, but they won in style. TBH i believe Netherlands play attractive football than any other team,
Senna's had a shocking season with injuries so i dont think he was ever going to go to the world cup.
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Messi isnt a striker ^^)
Its okay everyone! We have Heskey! In Heskey we hope! 
Dear god, if we meet the Spanish we'd best hope that Capello has some kind of master plan, because otherwise we are well and truly mullered.
He's been playing there recently, as a false nine.
Dear god, if we meet the Spanish we'd best hope that Capello has some kind of master plan, because otherwise we are well and truly mullered.
He's been playing there recently, as a false nine.
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Interesting that no one thinks Villa might be better than Torres. In nearly every game I've seen, Villa has been the better player (technique, finishing, even the shift he's put in). Seem to remeber him outshining Torres in the Euro's too and finishing as top scorer, but Torres stole the limelight with the winning goal in final. I like Torres, but, with a league record of 1 goal in every 2 games (over his entire career) and 36 goals in 55 internationals, can't help thinking Villa might be a tad better than his strike partner.
That's 'cause in international games, Torres was always playing off of Villa. Now it's the other way around.
And about the league record thing. Villa is over 2 years older than Torres and Torres plays in a team witha worse attack and as a lone striker in a league far more physical than the Spanish.
Torres is better at finishing/heading, stronger and probably faster.
Personally, Torres for me offers more than Villa, I would have Torres > Villa in ANY team.
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Deluded.
------->>>>>Ramos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Johnson
Pique>>>>>Puyol>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ferdinand Unless Rio is on form, then they're even.
------>>>>> Capdevilla<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Cole
Calling others deluded to post this? You lot are really funny. Just coz pique is attacking than other CBs makes him best? How many times he needs to defend playing for Barca. Every game they have say 70% possession and the moment they lose the ball, starting from Messi everyone closes so well, CB hardly has any job there other than heading a odd long ball.