Tactics & Training: The " I have a small question " thread

[Dajo]

What trainings do you recomend to improve players?

 

[Tomi-FTC]

How to good use Match Preparation?

 

[Lfc Suarez 7]

What will i lose if i change to classic tactics... just touchline shouts or is there anything else i will lose?

 

[gavinoshea]

any suggestions for good tactics for bournemouth...would to get dem promoted without buying players and bringing coaches.....good tactics??...coaches????

 

[TheBetterHalf]

What will i lose if i change to classic tactics... just touchline shouts or is there anything else i will lose?

You will loose the little helper called Tactics Creator . This means that not only the shouts will be enabled but also the option to change roles of the players, make changes in 2 or 3 settings that has a string correlation to each other without having to manually change them all one by one etc etc.

Another thing that changes is that you now have the options to use the same playmaker/target man when swapping position ( as in that its the player that is the playmaker and not the position)

 

[penfold82]

my assistant manager has advised me that I keep on losing to teams who play a slow tempo. Not sure how to stop this happening I think if I set my team instructions to press more this might work but not 100% sure... does anyone know if this would work?

 

[TheBetterHalf]

any suggestions for good tactics for bournemouth...would to get dem promoted without buying players and bringing coaches.....good tactics??...coaches????

Not many users play with Bournemouth so perhaps its best to upload some screens of the team, also explaining the strengths and weaknesses of the team.

When doing so, please use the thread linked to beneath, and I promise to give my thoughts on it

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f103/what-approach-tactic-suits-my-team-t51490.html

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my assistant manager has advised me that I keep on losing to teams who play a slow tempo. Not sure how to stop this happening I think if I set my team instructions to press more this might work but not 100% sure... does anyone know if this would work?

In short this means that statistically , you have been playing bad against teams using a s low tempo. The next step to evaluate this information is to see if the tempo has been been the dominant variable, rather than the quality of those opponents. The teams you have lost against, have they been lesser teams sitting deep and playing cautious on the counter against you, or have they been better teams, retaining possession at your home ground. Once you have figured that out, then you can take measurements and respond.

Against cautious opponents, you need to hassle them and use more of the pitch width. This can be done either by either pushing up the defence, or my favourite, just pressing higher without pushing up the d-line as this action limits the space. You don't have to actually play wider, just make sure that you have players providing the width, like wingers hugging the touchline, along with players opening up space, all this done is a more probing and patient manor.

Against quality opponents retaining possession, it again depends. It can be that they have scored 1-0 by playing quick and then defended the lead by playing cautious. Then, you need to do the same as in the previous example only this time, you cant play too wide and too aggressive

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How to good use Match Preparation?

I think that this question is very well put as you ask "How to use" and not "Whats the best". The most important part here is to understand what they do. Here is a rather good quote by wwfan from SI

I decided to highlight the last sentence as its probably the most important part When you are consistent, its easier to spot a pattern and learn when to do what.

1: Firstly, recognise that the match preparation screen is more than cosmetic. You need a stable and solid base formation and a gelled side before you can expect any good runs of form. You also need to have a basic strategy for approaching each match type. I use the following:

• Match I expect to dominate: Team Blend (should win anyway, so spend some time building the team understanding)
• Match I expect to win: Attacking Movement: Make sure I have the best chance of converting attacking sequences of play
• Match I hope to win: Defensive Positioning: Make sure I keep it tight at my end and hope to ****** goals on the counter
• Match I expect to be a struggle: Attacking Set Pieces: Try to keep things as tight as possible and score form a set piece
• Match I expect to lose: Defensive Set Pieces: Try to frustrate opposition in open play and then successfully defend the resulting set pieces
• Match I expect to be dominated in: Team Blend (very little chance of a result, so work on team understanding)

I'd prefer this type of strategy to be automated so I didn't have to click the screen every match, but beggars can't be choosers. NB: My own strategy is just one of many options you might decide upon. Just make sure there is some logical consistency in whatever approach you decide to follow.

 

[Chelski Shogun]

How can I get a DMC to drop into the CB position when my Fullbacks are all the way up the pitch?

I want my DMC to drop back when we are being counter attacked so that I have 3 CB and then once the Fullbacks have got back into position the DMC will move into his position.

 

[winfield]

I'm having trouble controlling possesion despite having a control mentality especially in the final 20 mins of a game (I sub fullbacks and my DM if they drop below 70%). I usually use Limited defeders in cover/stopper arrangement but want to try using a Ball Playing CB as a variation and get extremely mixed performances (Shawcross 14 passing and Havard Nordtveit 17 passing). Any suggestions?

For the life of me I can't figure out why my pass completion % are so mediocre which leads to poor possesion stats. My midfielders generally have 15+ passing, 14+ decision making and 14+anticipation. Anyone with less than 10 or less passing has the plays simple passes and no through balls ppm's.

 

[iNickStuff]

How can I get a DMC to drop into the CB position when my Fullbacks are all the way up the pitch?

I want my DMC to drop back when we are being counter attacked so that I have 3 CB and then once the Fullbacks have got back into position the DMC will move into his position.

By my knowledge, it's not possible. I have tried this hundreds of times with both Barcelona and several other clubs that include Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Manchester United and A.C. Milan - some even in Russia and Ukraine, just so that I can see what other players might do in those kinds of situations.

Pushing their mentality and closing down sliders way down to 'Defensive' and 'Own Area' is the only real way, with your central defenders having their mentality and closing down sliders pushed up to 'Attacking and 'Whole Pitch'.

 

[klink]

Cavani, Lavezzi in attack. Which roles would be the best for them?
And if you want cavani as targetman , please tell me what kind of targetman you want him to be.

 

[Romarinho]

My team cannot defend corners i am Roma i concede goals from set pieces every 2 games or so

Also team talks, how much effect do they have? and any tips?

Also man marking or zonal? at the moment mines mixed and working but i dont really have a clue whats best for who

Also i fined danielle di rossi for getting sent off now he wants to leave club, wont sign contract and plays **** every game i even tried to appologize but hes having none of it the *******. any ideas?

 

[winfield]

Drop him to reserves and let him stew. Although you shouldn't of fined him, warnings are the only ones you should ever use. Accept the fact that in the role he plays he will be esnt off time to time.

what I do for corners
Both CB = Mark Tall player
FB - Mark near post/ Mark Far post
DM - Man Mark
Balwinning mid -Man mark (if you don't use one I guess the best man marking cm will do)
Everyone but the fastest striker I have goes back

 

[Romarinho]

Thanks for the reply

i know i was heavy handed as i thought he was sent off for a horror tackle but it was 2 yellows lol but i just cant apologize to him he wont let me such a great talent and leader aswell i even tried to fine him again for being a *** lol but it wouldnt let me

Thanks for the corners ill set it up now

 

[klink]

Cavani, Lavezzi in attack. Which roles would be the best for them?
And if you want cavani as targetman , please tell me what kind of targetman you want him to be.

 

[robertozig]

How can i dominate posession? I know it sounds silly but I'm Barcelona and i can only get up to 48% against biggger teams and sometimes 52% against lower posseion teams, I use my own created teactic which has a 4-3-3 but with wingers, 1 striker and 3 cm's, i just can't have loads of possesion, any ideas?

 

[allyc31]

Hello!

Trying to do something that every other team and manager (including my assistant manager!) seems to do with ease. It should be something that should be easy to figure out and the fact that i haven't is proving to be very frustrating!

Essentially all i want is for my wingers to beat a man and buck a cross into the box (ideally it should be a low close for a tap-in in the centre of the box). I know, i know; how bad am i at the game right? Surprisingly not that bad. I'm not winning trebles or the champions league but, with Rangers I’ve won consecutive league titles and got to semis of uefa cup. However, no matter what i do i can't seem to set it up that my wingers beat the man and put the cross in.

Irregardless of how i set up my wingers always seem to hold the ball up and cut inside and maybe pass the ball to the target man etc. Or, if by some miracle they do put a cross in it normally fizzes across goal with no one to put it in.

My wingers are currently set up as cross from by-line, cross aim to centre with wide play set to hug line. My two strikers, one (Carlton Cole) is set up as a complete forward and the other (Frasier Campbell) is set up as a poacher.

Formation is pretty much a 442 with an anchor man in between def and mid and the wingers pushed up.

I've tried counter attacking, exploiting the width, focus passing down flank with no result. All i want is to beat a man and cross and for someone to be one the end of it.

So, any help and I’ll send you the biggest high five!

Thanks in advance



PS. Btw i score a lot of goals, but there not the goals i want to score.

 

[winfield]

Try changing you cross aim to near post + drill crosses. Aim to middle is lofted. Who are your wingers? Obviously buy high flair and dribbling players (15+) if you want them to make fullbacks look stupid repeatedly. teaching them knocks ball past opponent, run with ball often, dribble down left/right flank should also help

Also can anyone respond to this?

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f103...small-question-thread-t51501/post1088131.html

 

[allyc31]

Hey,

Cheers for the reply.

Yeah, i've pretty much decided i need better wingers. None of them are fast enough/good enough at dribbling. However, with tactical tweaks (pretty much what you say, but also making the two forwards stay central) i have managed to add this part to my game and i am scoring more goals from crosses so getting there.

 

[Romarinho]

Okay im still so mad with this game!

Corners and free kicks i concede so many even with default settings, i even change to what people suggest yet im still losing games from set pieces!! what good is my %70 possesion 20 shots on goal worth if i lose to corners and free kicks? its happening at an unrealistic rate which is so annoying!