Tactics & Training: The " I have a small question " thread

iNickStuff said:
Probably Defensive Midfielder on Defend, Central Midfielder on Automatic and the other Central Midfielder on Support or Attack. Maybe even Advanced Playmaker on Support if they stand out in the midfield.
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Tnx boath for the reply. Can you sugest some other roles that go good together? (let's say for not a LL team)
 
XeNoNF50 said:
It is extremely hard to think of Xavi and Iniesta as squad players! The tactics is near on perfect, I even just tweaked it a bit more and my possession was amazing but managed to get no yield on ratings from my better players. Match vs Zenit I won 2-0 with possession of 78% most of the game but that went down in last 10 minutes pass completion 90% with Mascherano with 80 passess and only 2 long shots with 17 shots in total and 3 CCCs hitting the woodwork 3 times too. Near perfect apart from the ratings :( I just wish I could get them all to be

As for your problem SS19 I have no idea mate. I've not really got any experience with the 4-6-0 tactic.
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Indeed but if they are used as squad players..... Anyway, what ratings do they get, 6.0, 6.5, 7.0, 7.5 ?. what do you consider to be a poor rating ?
 
They are doing fine now since I tweaked my tactic a bit. They were getting very low 7's last season which I thought was **** poor for two of the best players in the game. Now Iniesta has average rating of 7.65 and Xavi 7.52 after around 15 games.
 
Do you guys have good results using a Box to Box midfielder in your teams? Every time i use that setting in a tactic, most of the times the player gets a 6.9 rating and does nothing special
 
diogo_sesimbra said:
Do you guys have good results using a Box to Box midfielder in your teams? Every time i use that setting in a tactic, most of the times the player gets a 6.9 rating and does nothing special
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Jack Wilshere is my box-to-box and he's constantly an outstanding performer for me. He does swap with my AMC, though.

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I was wondering what the best way to defend against a narrow 4-2-3-1 is? It's always been a problem area for me - if you go too narrow, the FBs simply overlap and cause havoc* and if you go too wide then there's 2/3 players looking to make a run in behind your defence between the FB and CB (or two CBs). I usually set my Arsenal team up in a more conventional 4-2-3-1 (two CMs: 1 box to box, 1 ball winner and 1 AMC: Adv. Play - support) but it never seems to work!

*Also wondering if there's any way to make your wide players track back more? Other than making them defensive wingers and reducing the 'Mentality' slider... Any ideas?
 
I am unsure what to play Lita And Boyd as Upfront ? Any ideas
 
XeNoNF50 said:
They are doing fine now since I tweaked my tactic a bit. They were getting very low 7's last season which I thought was **** poor for two of the best players in the game. Now Iniesta has average rating of 7.65 and Xavi 7.52 after around 15 games.
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Low 7's isn't a bad rating, at least for Xavi as he doesn't get too many assists and goals, at least if you set him as he is in Barca tactics.
 
Ell16 said:
I am unsure what to play Lita And Boyd as Upfront ? Any ideas
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Maybe try an Advanced Forward-Poacher combination, or Target Man-Advanced Forward. Whichever that compliments eachother's styles as strikers.
 
Ok so Im using City(and have edited there budgets to reflect there spending power) so Im using a 4 2 3 1 with wingers(as inside forwards.I want to base the tactic around 2 of my new signings.Modric and Fabregas.So Im playing a narrow game with passing threw the middle.I was wondering if I am using the control style of play should I 1.Be using a control strategy and 2.What pace should I be using fast or slow.
My team is as follows.
GK-Hart Gk
RB-Richards FBD
CB-Toure CBD
CB-Kompany CBD
LB-Kolarov FBD
CM-De Jong BWMD
CM Fabregas DLPS
AMR-Johnson IFA
AMC-Modric APA
AML-Sanchez IFA
ST-Tevez Poacher
Any answers to my questions and any tips?
 
iNickStuff said:
Probably Defensive Midfielder on Defend, Central Midfielder on Automatic and the other Central Midfielder on Support or Attack. Maybe even Advanced Playmaker on Support if they stand out in the midfield.
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Tnx boath for the reply. Can you sugest some other roles that go good together? (let's say for not a LL team)
 
coolguyrko said:
Ok so Im using City(and have edited there budgets to reflect there spending power) so Im using a 4 2 3 1 with wingers(as inside forwards.I want to base the tactic around 2 of my new signings.Modric and Fabregas.So Im playing a narrow game with passing threw the middle.I was wondering if I am using the control style of play should I 1.Be using a control strategy and 2.What pace should I be using fast or slow.
My team is as follows.
GK-Hart Gk
RB-Richards FBD
CB-Toure CBD
CB-Kompany CBD
LB-Kolarov FBD
CM-De Jong BWMD
CM Fabregas DLPS
AMR-Johnson IFA
AMC-Modric APA
AML-Sanchez IFA
ST-Tevez Poacher
Any answers to my questions and any tips?
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As you are playing with a top team you have to prepare for the following

- At home, you will be facing team sitting deep, playing a cautious possession based approach or teams sitting rather deep playing a slow counter based approach. In both scenarios, they will be flooding the midfield, if not by formation it self, then by playing compact and tight by playing narrow.

-You will have to work hard to get the team to work hard for each other every single game. Not letting players get complacent etc.

- Having a fair amount of new players, the team might not be gelled instantly, especially not for those being outside the first 11 ( remember that players like Kolarov, Yaya, Milner etc are also new signings even though you have not signed them)


Taking this into account would you still say that the best approach is to play through the middle in a narrow appraoch, having the wingers cut inside WITH the ball, when you are already flooding the midfield ?. When playing away, it might be a different story but when facing these teams ( I would say in 16 out of 19 home matches) at home, there is a big risk that there will be agony.

Strategy
In most cases this will be a good strategy but when up against these teams sitting really deep, you might need to play more attacking, using the space or play even more probing, perhaps using Standard with lots of attacking shouts like play wider, get ball forward and drop deep, all making you use more of the space but not rushing attacks

Focus play and width

Concentrating the flow through the middle is not wrong at all as long as you use lots of width to provide all players with space to move into.

Tempo

This would depend on if you are to tweak the tempo slider manually or change it by switching the directness of your play/ using shouts.. Personally, I would try using the tempo set by the TC and then either slow it down by shouting retain possession or lower it manually, watching some full matches to see how it effects the flow of the game

Roles

Here, they would depend on the style of play you chose but remember to take the players preferred moves into account. Using Tevez as a poacher ( telling him to go straight at goal when he has the ball) might not be the best option as he likes to come deep and get the ball. A TQ role is perhaps as a better role for him to act in from the position he is likely to take in the field. This was just one example of ppms changing the from where they should be positioned and you might want to look at the whole team to see what flow you can expect from your players regardless of tactical settings so you don't put any great moves or flaws just down to being tactical settings ( like if using balotelli in AMR/L and he refuses to make that clear t-balls but instead takes a shot from a really poor angle...he has low stats in team work you know)
 
TheBetterHalf said:
As you are playing with a top team you have to prepare for the following

- At home, you will be facing team sitting deep, playing a cautious possession based approach or teams sitting rather deep playing a slow counter based approach. In both scenarios, they will be flooding the midfield, if not by formation it self, then by playing compact and tight by playing narrow.

-You will have to work hard to get the team to work hard for each other every single game. Not letting players get complacent etc.

- Having a fair amount of new players, the team might not be gelled instantly, especially not for those being outside the first 11 ( remember that players like Kolarov, Yaya, Milner etc are also new signings even though you have not signed them)


Taking this into account would you still say that the best approach is to play through the middle in a narrow appraoch, having the wingers cut inside WITH the ball, when you are already flooding the midfield ?. When playing away, it might be a different story but when facing these teams ( I would say in 16 out of 19 home matches) at home, there is a big risk that there will be agony.

Strategy
In most cases this will be a good strategy but when up against these teams sitting really deep, you might need to play more attacking, using the space or play even more probing, perhaps using Standard with lots of attacking shouts like play wider, get ball forward and drop deep, all making you use more of the space but not rushing attacks

Focus play and width

Concentrating the flow through the middle is not wrong at all as long as you use lots of width to provide all players with space to move into.

Tempo

This would depend on if you are to tweak the tempo slider manually or change it by switching the directness of your play/ using shouts.. Personally, I would try using the tempo set by the TC and then either slow it down by shouting retain possession or lower it manually, watching some full matches to see how it effects the flow of the game

Roles

Here, they would depend on the style of play you chose but remember to take the players preferred moves into account. Using Tevez as a poacher ( telling him to go straight at goal when he has the ball) might not be the best option as he likes to come deep and get the ball. A TQ role is perhaps as a better role for him to act in from the position he is likely to take in the field. This was just one example of ppms changing the from where they should be positioned and you might want to look at the whole team to see what flow you can expect from your players regardless of tactical settings so you don't put any great moves or flaws just down to being tactical settings ( like if using balotelli in AMR/L and he refuses to make that clear t-balls but instead takes a shot from a really poor angle...he has low stats in team work you know)
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Thanks man.Great info.Will defo give this a try.
 
prigrajf said:
Tnx boath for the reply. Can you sugest some other roles that go good together? (let's say for not a LL team)
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There are so many, but common ones would be:

  • Defensive Midfielder (Defend), Ball-Winning Midfielder (Support) and Advanced Playmaker (Attack)
  • Deep-Lying Playmaker (Defend), Ball-Winning Midfielder (Support), Advanced Playmaker (Attack)
  • Anchor Man, Deep-Lying Playmaker (Support), Advanced Playmaker (Attack)
  • Anchor Man, Ball-Winning Midfielder (Defend), Deep-Lying Playmaker (Support)
Just use this as a guide, then chop-and-change.
 
I was looking through my PIs and i found that that my ball winning midfielder (defend) had a default 'yes' to 'hold up ball'. Could someeone clarify both the purpose of this and what effect it would have if I changed it?
 
iNickStuff said:
There are so many, but common ones would be:

  • Defensive Midfielder (Defend), Ball-Winning Midfielder (Support) and Advanced Playmaker (Attack)
  • Deep-Lying Playmaker (Defend), Ball-Winning Midfielder (Support), Advanced Playmaker (Attack)
  • Anchor Man, Deep-Lying Playmaker (Support), Advanced Playmaker (Attack)
  • Anchor Man, Ball-Winning Midfielder (Defend), Deep-Lying Playmaker (Support)
Just use this as a guide, then chop-and-change.
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Tnx again, much apreciated :)
 
I just started a Juventus save and both of my best strikers are far past it physicaly wise (Del Piero & Luca Toni)

Is there a training scedule floating about for older players? I'm looking for something that wouldn't harm their attacking and mental stats but maybe improve their physical by a few points. Both have stamina, pace and natural fitness of 9.
 
Hello, I have some questions so if you can help me out I'll appreciate it.

1. Run from deep , if set to rarely what does it do, if set to often what does it do , and if set to mixed?
2. Width , what does that influence ?
3. Defensive line, Again what does it do?
 
RD10 said:
Hello, I have some questions so if you can help me out I'll appreciate it.

1. Run from deep , if set to rarely what does it do, if set to often what does it do , and if set to mixed?
2. Width , what does that influence ?
3. Defensive line, Again what does it do?
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Im not great with tactical stuff nut from what I know
1)Eun from deep means a players will get the ball from midfield or from defense and run at the opposition.
2)How wide or narrow your team plays.
3)How high your defense plays on the field.
 
coolguyrko said:
Im not great with tactical stuff nut from what I know
1)Eun from deep means a players will get the ball from midfield or from defense and run at the opposition.
2)How wide or narrow your team plays.
3)How high your defense plays on the field.
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I get what you are saying but how does that apply in game?
If I'll play a high defeinsive line what other things happen? some one once said they will start pressing faster...
If I'll play more wide will the pass wider or just be wider?
And I thought Run From Deep was an Off the ball instruction?

Thanks for the answer tho..:)
 
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