Tactics & Training: The " I have a small question " thread

Any tips for a good 4-2-2-2 tactic in Villareal style? Flying fullbacks, ''wide'' midfielders occupying central roles, forwards making runs to the width etc etc. I've tried to create one myself, but I'm stuck with the ''two'' behind strikers as well as the two in front of defense. Just can't get it right. :P
 
I've been using Dunc's training for my youth players, is it worth doing other training schedules for my main players? If so, which is ideal for me starting a new Man Utd save?
 
could someone advise me on roles and duties for a man utd tactic.
looking to play a 4-4-2 or 4-2-4
 
im playing as malaga but i edited it to give my self 70mil and a sugar daddy. Im nearing the jan window and im 4th my team at the moment is..
GK: ochoa(goalkeeper-defend)
RB: jesus Gamez(fullback-auto)
CB: adil rami(centerback-stopper)
CB: kris Stadsgaard(centerback-cover)
LB: jose angel(wingback-attack)
CM: anthony annan(ball winning mid-defend)
CM: apono / kevin (advance playmaker-attack)
AMR: Eden Hazard(inside forward-attack)
AMC: Paulo henrique(attacking mid-attack)
AML: Ibrahim Afellay(inside forward-attack)
ST: Neymar(poacher-attack)

now i had planned on trying to get neymars finishing up and playing him up top but giuseppe rossi has become unsettled, im on his favorite personal and am trying to get friendly with his manager so i should be able to get him for quiet cheap. my question is do you think i could fit him in? im not sure how i could fit him and neymar in together?

so do you think i should try sign him? and if yes how do i fit him in? or change my tactic to fit to him?
thanks for any help! :)
 
Are DeMerit and Monk good enough center- backs for the prem, or should I replace them?
 
korzika said:
I'm looking for a corner-tactic.. Any recommendations?
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If you search "corner tactic", you Will Come up with à few threads that Will provide you with à few ideas. Just remember that you do need à good corner taker, à good player to put it away along with something that mot people tend to overlook, namely one of your " dangermen" acting like à decoy. I cant link to these threads as i am on à iphone and am **** at it
 
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What does run from deep actually do? I've noticed if most of my players have it set to 'rarely' I have more fluid attacks with more space opening up for players, which doesn't really make sense seeing how the shouldn't be running from deep.

It is a good thing, I'm just wondering if my explanation of running from deep is wrong.

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another problem is my touchline instructions aren't being applied in the first half, it just keeps saying pending
 
blekaut said:
What does run from deep actually do? I've noticed if most of my players have it set to 'rarely' I have more fluid attacks with more space opening up for players, which doesn't really make sense seeing how the shouldn't be running from deep.

It is a good thing, I'm just wondering if my explanation of running from deep is wrong.

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another problem is my touchline instructions aren't being applied in the first half, it just keeps saying pending
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Firstly: Rarely is a tendency. If you have players that are set to rarely, it means that they will do less of it than they normally would do, then if set on mixed/normal. what is it that they normally do then ? . Well, that would not only depend on the player ppms but also on his mentality and roaming option. A player given a high mentality will look towards the attacking options more often ( such as t-balls, runs from deep) rather than the defensive options ( closing down, tight mark etc). If the player liked to get forward in his ppms, well then he will do so more often than if not having that ppm. Another thing that makes player take runs form deep is if you are playing on the break. using that options makes you team, when in possession, act like they are on the highest ,mentality and they will make runs from deep more often

Also consider when you see a fluid team with lots of players opening up space for each other is not always runs from deep as such but more players moving up field as a unit, looking for free space( roaming) and using the wide play. If you look at the speed in which they perfom these moves, it not fast, only fast enough to make sure that he keeps the shape of the team and make a passing option

When a player is taking a run from deep, its with the aim not to keep up with the and holding the shape ( like above), but to beat his opponent, getting behind him or into that free space before him and this, they do with speed
 
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Im playing a 4-2-4 with 2 attacking advanced playmakers in the amr/aml slots and with a poacher and deep lying forward in support duty. What are the best roles for my two centre mids (Carrick and Fletcher)? I know one will be on defend and one on support, but what role should i give them?
 
Wing-Inside forwards + AMC?

Is it worth playing with AMC + inside forwards? AML-AMC-AMR .. As far as I know the AMC requires normal wings to stretch the opposition and avoid getting too many players in the middle. Is it true!? I really love playing with inside forwards and I'm going to sign Elia and Adam Johnson as Inside wing FWs.. and using Renato Augusto or Ben Arfa on the AMC as Supporting playmaker... Is it going to work!? I'm not thinking about dragging the AMC to MC position, because my poacher is always getting isolated.. somehow.. and also the MC playmaker always struggle in my tactics.. don't know why..
 
Haiku said:
Is it worth playing with AMC + inside forwards? AML-AMC-AMR .. As far as I know the AMC requires normal wings to stretch the opposition and avoid getting too many players in the middle. Is it true!? I really love playing with inside forwards and I'm going to sign Elia and Adam Johnson as Inside wing FWs.. and using Renato Augusto or Ben Arfa on the AMC as Supporting playmaker... Is it going to work!? I'm not thinking about dragging the AMC to MC position, because my poacher is always getting isolated.. somehow.. and also the MC playmaker always struggle in my tactics.. don't know why..
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Though the inside forwards have instructions to cut inside, they do start from the width. What I'd consider more, is whether the opposing teams tactic leaves any space in the middle. Eg. against standard 4-4-2 there's space to cut in to bacause the opposing two in the centre are worried about your no.10 and central midfielders, but something like 4-3-1-2 / 4-1-2-1-2 / 4-1-2-3(4-3-3 basically) controls the centre of the park well and there's no much point in cutting in. So what I recommend, is that you mix/switch the roles against these kind of tactics and rather go in ''from the outside''.

The MC playmaker gets usually man marked when the AI gets a gold of your approach, and is thus less effective. Also if you're playing with short passing and your opponent is pressing high, the MC gets isolated very easily unless he has very good off the ball stat and a PM of ''comes deep to get the ball''. In this situation I'd try a more direct approach, and exploit the wings rather than passing your way to the goal. Obviously a poacher isn't that effective then, but I'd say it's still more preferable.

Ps. If you're playing with playmaker option ticked, I'd tick the AMC against flat fromations. He is unmarked against tactics which don't have a holding player and then you have 3v2 in the middle, or he hasn't have a man marker and has more time on the ball to work his magic.
 
Haiku said:
Is it worth playing with AMC + inside forwards? AML-AMC-AMR .. As far as I know the AMC requires normal wings to stretch the opposition and avoid getting too many players in the middle. Is it true!? I really love playing with inside forwards and I'm going to sign Elia and Adam Johnson as Inside wing FWs.. and using Renato Augusto or Ben Arfa on the AMC as Supporting playmaker... Is it going to work!? I'm not thinking about dragging the AMC to MC position, because my poacher is always getting isolated.. somehow.. and also the MC playmaker always struggle in my tactics.. don't know why..
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Cut inside is with the ball instruction, so when they don't have the ball, they keep the width, depending on your width in team instructions. When they get the ball and start dribbling, they cut inside.
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
Im playing a 4-2-4 with 2 attacking advanced playmakers in the amr/aml slots and with a poacher and deep lying forward in support duty. What are the best roles for my two centre mids (Carrick and Fletcher)? I know one will be on defend and one on support, but what role should i give them?
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One should be a ball winning midfielder and the other a box2box midfielder or an advanced playmaker, but if you already use two advanced playmaker I would recommend a deep lying playmaker
 
I'm playing a 4-1-2-2-1 (Zahar's version) and I have this dilemma... I have Douglas Costa on the right wing as winger who cuts inside: his long shots are 17, but his decisionmaking is only 10. Should I put long shots on often, sometimes or rarely?

Same for Hulk: his long shot are 19. He's a poacher. Long shots often, sometimes or rarely? I feel that so many good chances go down the drain because of a long shot...

Another question about Hulk: he's a beast. He creates lots of chances, but when he shoots at goal (mostly only vs the keeper) he just bangs em right on the keeper. His composure isn't that good (11) and he shoots with power. Is that the reason? How can I fix it? Or is it because he needs to gel more (I bought him this season)?


Thanks!
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
Im playing a 4-2-4 with 2 attacking advanced playmakers in the amr/aml slots and with a poacher and deep lying forward in support duty. What are the best roles for my two centre mids (Carrick and Fletcher)? I know one will be on defend and one on support, but what role should i give them?
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Depends very much on what pressing setting and mentality you play with.
 
My scout tells me the majority of the time against big teams that :"They play defensive and often look to draw the opposition onto them before attempting a counter attack"

Always tend to end up losing whatever tactic I try.....Anyone got any tips??
 
Jimmy_x_ said:
im playing fluid attacking and left the pressing on default as it was already quite high.
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I can't get to FM right now since my laptop got waterboarded, but if my memory serves me right, Carrick has good attributes for a deep lying playmaker on both duties. Fletcher on the other hand, is a about as bob-to-box as it gets.

I'd tweak both roles a bit, though. With attacking setting players press more and have a higher level of creativity, and I don't think it's recomendable when those two are the only one's controlling the centre of the pitch. Personally, I would lower the mentality, creative freedom, pressing and untick ''roam from position'' if the B-T-B has it on ''yes''. This way they'll guard the CB's and the front of your goal, rather than leaving their positions in order to win the ball back quickly, and thus leaving huge gaps on your midfield. I think both players have good enough positional sense and decision making to perform in this manner.

The exact positions of the sliders on those you'll find trough trial and error, but it shouldn't take too long.
 
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