SAF said:If you are good enough, then you are old enough
Thats all..
SAF said:If you are good enough, then you are old enough
The selling is not the issue here, its the replacing with better players. Not potentially better players. So you are happy we will/have lost Cesc, Nasri and don't seem to be replacing any of them. That we won't be playing a first team LB tomorrow. Or the fact that we may have to play a 442 and field, Ramsey, Frimpong, AOC/Ryo and AA in midfield against Liverpool? Three of whom are completely inexperienced. The fact that we have to put Nasri and Bendtner in the squad because we are down to the bare bones. Again, I could go on..
You're getting as delusional as Wenger.
@Sulsey and all the other armchair managars who thing they know best: Age has absolutely no correlation to ability, we could buy a 25 year old cdm and he may be no better than Frimpong but you'd be jizzing your pants because he's not 19, not going to say whether or nut he's of the quality required because I just don't know, but I trust Wenger's opinion over some armchair manager. Fabregas debuted when he was 16 btw.
Everyone needs to get behind the team, those who are criticising are the delusional ones. Wenger has delivered CL football for the past 15 seasons, Overmars, Bergkamp, Henry, they've all come and gone, the only constant throughout those hugely successful (Yes I said hugely successful, if top 4 for 15 years in a row is failing there's hundreds of clubs in the uk that would like to be failures too) has been Arsene, he's still here so why panic. Criticise at the end of the season, there's 37 games to go yet. Call for signings and a sacking if and when they finish 8th or whatever nonsene you lot are predicting, because with Wenger's track record you don't have a leg to stand on at the moment.
Oh and there's more to a player than natural ability, Nasri and Cesc may be very technically gifted but I'd back a youngster desperate to play over a more gifted wantaway mercenary any day of the week.
Thats all..
Pretty sure that Kenny has said something like that as well. He said that age is irrelevant when it comes to quality.
In fact, I've just read something about us signing Enrique, and Kenny saying that Jack Robinson is still going to get games, but at 17, we need to be careful of burn out. Young, quality players just need to be managed right.
Also, I'm pretty sure none of you moaned when Fabregas debuted at 16? Or that Wilshere is first choice at 19? I don't understand why people are saying you need to sign a replacement for Cesc, you've already got one in my eyes. Little Welsh kid you've got, heard he's not bad?
Liverpool must be ******* themselves with laughter. You've not won anything in 5 years, you almost went into admin, you're now chasing the Top 4 - or at least Europa League football - rather than the league as you were doing a few years ago....
And yet - Liverpool fans still sing their hearts out at Anfield, back the manager (who's a legend, just like AW is - although admittedly a little different) and largely seem to be pretty calm about the whole thing while Arsenal fans squabble and argue with one another over any little thing that might happen.
Oh to be a Gooner.
Just like they backed Hodgson and Benitez towards the end of his reign, eh.
Liverpool must be ******* themselves with laughter. You've not won anything in 5 years, you almost went into admin, you're now chasing the Top 4 - or at least Europa League football - rather than the league as you were doing a few years ago....
And yet - Liverpool fans still sing their hearts out at Anfield, back the manager (who's a legend, just like AW is - although admittedly a little different) and largely seem to be pretty calm about the whole thing while Arsenal fans squabble and argue with one another over any little thing that might happen.
Oh to be a Gooner.
Just like they backed Hodgson and Benitez towards the end of his reign, eh.
What i cant see is how is it so difficult to go to Everton and offer 20 M for Jags and see if they accept instead of the embarrassing 10 M bid we lodged earlier?
Liverpool must be ******* themselves with laughter. You've not won anything in 5 years, you almost went into admin, you're now chasing the Top 4 - or at least Europa League football - rather than the league as you were doing a few years ago....
And yet - Liverpool fans still sing their hearts out at Anfield, back the manager (who's a legend, just like AW is - although admittedly a little different) and largely seem to be pretty calm about the whole thing while Arsenal fans squabble and argue with one another over any little thing that might happen.
Oh to be a Gooner.
Liverpool fans do that because Daglish turned their fortunes around at the end of last season while Wenger and Arsenal self-combusted, when Daglish sold off his key players eg. Torres he moved quickly to get replacements (eg. Suarez and Caroll) in even if he did overpay for them but that could not be helped. Daglish also has entered the transfer market and has quickly shored up the areas of concern in Liverpool such as at Left-Back etc. and has brought in quality players to make sure Pool do not stagnate. He has also shown an absence of fear in terms of splashing money on players who he thinks are good enough
I honestly dont see why Pool fans should complain
@Sulsey and all the other armchair managars who thing they know best: Age has absolutely no correlation to ability, we could buy a 25 year old cdm and he may be no better than Frimpong but you'd be jizzing your pants because he's not 19, not going to say whether or not he's of the quality required because I just don't know, but I trust Wenger's opinion over some armchair manager. Fabregas debuted when he was 16 btw.
Everyone needs to get behind the team, those who are criticising are the delusional ones. Wenger has delivered CL football for the past 15 seasons, Overmars, Bergkamp, Henry, they've all come and gone, the only constant throughout those hugely successful (Yes I said hugely successful, if top 4 for 15 years in a row is failing there's hundreds of clubs in the uk that would like to be failures too) has been Arsene, he's still here so why panic. Criticise at the end of the season, there's 37 games to go yet. Call for signings and a sacking if and when they finish 8th or whatever nonsene you lot are predicting, because with Wenger's track record you don't have a leg to stand on at the moment.
Oh and there's more to a player than natural ability, Nasri and Cesc may be very technically gifted but I'd back a youngster desperate to play over a more gifted wantaway mercenary any day of the week.
Because he's 29, come on Calum, don't be daft. Already got one complete idiot here in the form of Sulsey, don't think I can handle another.
People really need some perspective here. At the end of last season, every Arsenal fan was saying "Sell Bendtner, Almunia, Denilson, Diaby, Rosicky, Eboue, Clichy" and now it's "WHY U NO KEEP THESE PLAYERS WENGA?"
And yes, he clearly does believe that certain players are ready for the first team. Miyaichi, Campbell and Jenkinson will all be involved with the first-team this season. That doesn't mean he's not going to sign an experienced centre-back which he's said 10,000 times he's trying to do.
Is Vela really a big loss? Is Clichy? Denilson? Why keep unsettled players like Cesc and Nasri? It's hardly Wenger's fault than Barcelona are massive ***** and refused to make an acceptable offer until mid-August - even then, Wenger gets criticised for selling too cheaply. He simply can't win with some people.
This is flawed logic at best.... maybe Wenger thinks these group of youngsters you mentioned are ready for the first-team but I cant see the likes of Ramsey, Wilshere, Myaichi, Campbell and Jenkinson ever taking you to a major trophy, the first two I mentioned are extremely talented and will no doubt become World-Class Players one day but lets get real, Ramsey has just had a major injury not too long ago and whether he will be able to handle the pressure is another story, Wilshere has been excellent but he has always had the privilege to play around experienced better players such as Fabregas and Nasri, dont know if he will be able to handle the burden of expectations Arsenal fans have lumped on his shoulders
Ever? Are you sure about that? Here I'm waiting for Ramsey to fulfill his potential to see him ripping defenders new arsehole.
Wilshere played with Parker still played his normal game. I haven't seen much of Myaichi, Campbell and Jenkinson, I doubt even you did to post definitive posts.
Not comparing, but its good to see how you big up Chelsea youngsters as great potentials and how they carry Chelsea when they haven't played any games in the league at the same time saying Arsenal youngsters wont win them trophies EVER.
For your knowledge I have seen enough of those players to have an opinion and all of them have got great potential but I do not think they are ready just yet to play week in and out Football of become key players for Arsenal
Plus this is why I hate debating with you, you always always bring other clubs into the matter even though it has nothing to do with them and I do not remember a time when I have slated Arsenals youngsters, if you read the post carefully enough you find that I do mention they have great potential, I just have my worries that their current ability and the pressure they are likely to face will bring their season to a premature end
ChesneySure, you can buy better players, but gee guys, I can see that starting XI tearing teams to shreds. I think you're blowing your weaknesses way out of proportion.
Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Gibbs
Song Wilshere
Gervinho/Walcott Ramsey Arshavin/Miyaichi
RVP