The Ashes 2010/11

[Jake]

He was until the Ashes last year you mean. You cant say he bowled brilliantly last year when everyone knows he had an absolute shocker against England in England.

Hence his award is not merited in anyway whatsoever.

He WAS bowling well until the 2009 ashes yes, and he bowled well after that series too, thats my point.

He came onto the scene when i was in Australia in 07/08, the 2009 ashes have nothing to do with when he played his first few games, which i saw, and he looked a tremendous bowler. He continued and improved that level of performance into 08/09 (aside from a poor ashes showing) so why he isn't deserving of the award is beyond me.

He destroyed South Africa in 2009.

He bowled very well against both India and New Zealand in late 2008 (part of the 08/09 season, and counting towards the 09 cricketer of the year award.)

He took 63 international wickets in 2009 (more than any other bowler) despite a bad show in the 09 ashes.

Regardless of his poor Ashes, to say the top wicket taker in the world in 2009 is not deserving of Cricketer of the year 2009 seems a bit, i dunno, illogical?

 

[YTFC Fan]

Regardless of his poor Ashes, to say the top wicket taker in the world in 2009 is not deserving of Cricketer of the year 2009 seems a bit, i dunno, illogical?

So someone who played well except in the single most important series in his sides calender, when he had a shocker, is illogical for him not to win the award?

Well, you are entitled to your opinion I suppose.

(And they still lost to SA series in Oz (granted they won in SA though)).

 

[Jake]

So someone who played well except in the single most important series in his sides calender, when he had a shocker, is illogical for him not ton win the award?

Well, you are entitled to your opinion I suppose.

(And they still lost to SA series in Oz (granted they won in SA though)).

To the people that give out the award, the ashes is just another series, wickets taken there don't count double or anything.

63 wickets in 2009, and also the first aussie to take 50 wickets and score 500 runs in a year.

Imo, he deserved the award simply for the amount of wickets he took despite basically not turning up for a series (the ashes) and taking far fewer than expected.

I'm not saying he's the best bowler in the world or anything, as demonstrated by his poor 09 ashes and his shocking Brisbane test this series. But on form he's deadly, as the wickets he's taken today show.

My original point was also trying to highlight the fact that most English fans and commentators (Botham in particular) have rubbished him and scoffed at the 09 award, based on the fact the he didnt turn up for the 09 ashes or the 10 Brisbane test. But in almost every other series he has played in since late 2008, hes been one of the standout players of the series, even if Australia lost.

I stand by my point, if he keeps up this form (which imo is the true Mitchell Johnson) then its going to at least make the series competitive.

 

[YTFC Fan]

To the people that give out the award,

Changing subject, these are the same people who omitted Graeme Swann from this years list originally so they clearly have a limited knowledge of cricket.

Edit - The ICC DO prioritise series - though not as we may think. This was a 5 game series so is more important than a 3 game series etc. Hence the smaller nations never play more than a 3 game series.

 

[Jake]

Lolz, Botham now backtracking and distancing himself from the previous criticism of Mitchell's 2009 cricketer of the year award.

 

[AussieOchoa]

**** yes Mitchell Johnson

6/38, brilliant bowling, way to prove his critics wrong

 

[sunilvk7]

Dropping him has really motivated him.

I agree with Jake. Ashes is just another test series. Yes, it has very rich history, that doesn't mean people will be awarded double points for performing well.

 

[YTFC Fan]

I agree with Jake. Ashes is just another test series. Yes, it has very rich history, that doesn't mean people will be awarded double points for performing well.

You miss the point entirely. :S

 

[sunilvk7]

You miss the point entirely. :S

:'( Maybe. Didnt bother to read last 2 pages. Just checked few posts where you said Johnson didnt deserve award as he didnt perform in Ashes.

 

[Brian]

ok i wake up to find australia batting again. wtf happened.
If Eoin Morgan was batting they would have been fine

EDIT: GTFO Ponting woooooooo

 

[Jack]

Needed that breakthrough.

How quick did Clarke get to 20?!!!

 

[Alcaraz]

imo I wake up to find Australia batting, well this was expected, Johnson was having a truly electric spell, only thing that cheered me up was to see Clarke fail yet again

 

[Thefreeman]

Its been a bad day in the office for the England team. They have to forget this day, and start fresh tomorrow.
Slight worry I have got is that Anderson and KP both look like they have some sort of injury. Lets hope its nothing major.

 

[Nick.]

Dropping him has really motivated him.

I agree with Jake. Ashes is just another test series. Yes, it has very rich history, that doesn't mean people will be awarded double points for performing well.

he wasn't dropped, he was given the chance to work on his action with Troy Cooley which he took, and see the difference between the Brisbane match, and this one

 

[Joss]

Well. That was embarrassing...

Bowled out for < 200

 

[Andy]

he wasn't dropped, he was given the chance to work on his action with Troy Cooley which he took, and see the difference between the Brisbane match, and this one

Johnson was dropped. Being replaced in the side because you have been playing poorly is being dropped.

Hussey still in and Watson has a start (shock). If England break the partnership early tomorrow I think they can still win.

 

[GodCubed]

ARGH What the ****?!

God **** it...

 

[Scott]

The wicket will get better for batting in Perth. So Australia need to be careful, if they bat for too long, i fully expect England to not lose 10 wickets again, and maybe a repeat of test one...

 

[Joss]

The wicket will get better for batting in Perth. So Australia need to be careful, if they bat for too long, i fully expect England to not lose 10 wickets again, and maybe a repeat of test one...

But we should have won this test after that bowling/fielding display not thinking about drawing it! This was a big chance, I don't expect the Aussies to fall apart again - They've shown yesterday afternoon and in T1 how good they can be at the wicket.

 

[Scott]

But we should have won this test after that bowling/fielding display not thinking about drawing it! This was a big chance, I don't expect the Aussies to fall apart again - They've shown yesterday afternoon and in T1 how good they can be at the wicket.

I agree, But i think we got a head of ourselves, The wicket was for bowlers, and the Aussies played an extra bowler.. I honestly think we missed a trick not bowling them out for under 200. 250-300 was always going to be an alright first score.