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It was pure rape, Jimmy Anderson is amazing, can't wait for the middle order to start batting, KP, Prior and Swann are awesome batters when they aren't under pressure.
The Ashes 2010/11
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You... what?
England are a young, developing side. We have the best spinner in the world, the one of the best seamers, and one of the best young stars in Steven Finn. We're officially ranked third in the ICC world rankings in Tests. To say we are a poor side is ridiculous.
To say, however, that our bowling was okay and the Aussies batting was awful is fine, but you rather undid that with the rubbish start.
OK. Poor may be an exaggerationHowever, it isn't a special side like some people are making out. England are always built up to be some kind of amazing team, but what have they done to prove this. Going to be winning a series against an ordinary Australia team. Wow.
Except we're not though are we? Most of England's fans are aware that whilst we're good, we're not "amazing". If we take this thread as an example, nobody has said we're "amazing" or "special". We're happy because we like beating the Aussies, so let us have our fun.
What is the difference between a man ironing his pants and an Australian batsman?
The man ironing his pants stays longer at the crease.
As I said, England are not poor. That was an exaggeration <) It was 4ish in the morning, give me a break
Ian Botham and his *** chums, and the England press are going on like England are some amazing side. When they beat India in India and South Africa in South Africa anybody can then call England are a great side. To your point about let us have our fun, that is fair enough, but beating the Aussies now is no where near what it was in 05 (even it is in Aussieland), it is nothing special and England should have won/win convincingly.
OK. Poor may be an exaggeration
This side is very good and on it's day is the best in the world, IMHO. We could definately compete with India and South Africa with a fully fit team.
As I said, England are not poor. That was an exaggeration <) It was 4ish in the morning, give me a break
Ian Botham and his *** chums, and the England press are going on like England are some amazing side. When they beat India in India and South Africa in South Africa anybody can then call England are a great side. To your point about let us have our fun, that is fair enough, but beating the Aussies now is no where near what it was in 05 (even it is in Aussieland), it is nothing special and England should have won/win convincingly.
Botham and the sky lot are all morons anyway, no point listening to them. I think it's a bit unfair saying "everyone" is going on about how awesome England are, most of us are being realistic.
Agreed on beating the Aussies though. We should be spanking them. India next year will be eventful, I feel...
I know they are idiots, Bob Willis the worst of the lot. As always the press speak on behalf of the nation. That is why England have such a bad name.
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Just wouldn't agree with that at all, not yet. Competing and saying you are the best on your day is completely different. India's batting line up is better that England's and SA's bowling attack is better than England.
Think they are the top 2 countries in the world followed by England. But my main point is England have not proved anything by beating a less than average Australia team.
India's batting lineup is better, but our bowling lineup is huuuugely better. I reckon their recent attack was the worst Test #1 attack in history. Whereas we have two of the top 5 bowlers in the world.
No no no. You're so wrong. They wouldn't be the best in the world if their attack was that bad. Zaheer Khan is superb, as is Harbhajan Singh. Our bowling lineup is good, but not "hugely better". I'd say our bowling attack was better than theirs, yes, but their batting is so much better than ours it balances it out and then some. There's no way their attack is the worst in Test history, that's rubbish of the highest degree.
We have two of the top 10 bowlers in the world, they have 2 of the top 10 bowlers in the world. We have 3 in the top 20, they have 3 in the top 20. We have 5 in the top 40, they have 5 in the top 40. We're pretty much equal.
I didn't say it was the worst in Test history, my god, I said it was the worst of any #1 team in history. Read the post properly...
And I was actually talking about when they had no Zaheer Khan. Again, read the post properly...
Regardless, you're still wrong. I can't pull up any from off the top of my head, but that accusation is ridiculous. Harbhajan is superb, Sreesanth is a good bowler, as is Sharma.
Where do you say anything about Zaheer Khan? If you meant him, under "recent attack", he's in the team now, and you can't get much more recent than that.
Also, good job on ignoring everything else I had to say. Or is that because it's irrefutable?
Recent attack = the previous test, which they played without Zaheer.
I didn't reply to the rest of your post, as it is irrelevant considering I was talking about the Indian attack with Khan. But if you like, I'll address your post point-by-point.
Their bowling attack is a huge contender for worst #1 Test side bowling attack ever.
Sreesanth
Sharma
Unadkat
Harbhajan
Raina
That's horribly poor. Granted, Harbhajan is a very good bowler, but he's not amazing. He averages 32+ in Tests. Yes, that's fairly solid, but not for a bowler who's going to lead the attack. Sreesanth is decent but Sharma averages 39 at Tests and just has nothing, absolutely nothing, on Zaheer. And Raina cannot bowl for toffee.
Compared to that bowling attack, right there:
Anderson >>>>>> Sreesanth
Tremlett >> Sharma
Bresnan >>>> Unadkat
Swann >> Harbajhan
Collingwood/Pietersen = Raina
And your so lucky that I've not included Broad or Finn in there. I know which attack I'd prefer overall.
Well first time i will have commented on this forum even through i have watched all the ashes tests i believe that England will draw the series bt will regain the ashes also England i believe are a good side with the best field in cricket most likely and the best spinner in the world also the lose of broad was a gd thing i fink cause tremlett is in and his bouncers cause a lot of problems and everyone knows we hve great seamers. bt i never can trust the battinng of england espically cause of how inconsistanted the batters are if cook gets a century everyone else seems to faluter but all inall we are a stronger side and thats why we will keep the ashes
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Good start by the Aussies. Lets see how the England middle order to.
Barmy army, barmy army, barmy army!
Great partnership from Trott and KP, just want England needed. Hopefully they can push on and just bat Australia out of the game.
Don't understand what Ponting is moaning at. Fair enough review it, but when the third umpire has made his decision to argue like that on the pitch is just ridiculous.
Arghh, I always jinx it. 2 secs after I post that ^ Kp goes.
Great partnership from Trott and KP, just want England needed. Hopefully they can push on and just bat Australia out of the game.
Don't understand what Ponting is moaning at. Fair enough review it, but when the third umpire has made his decision to argue like that on the pitch is just ridiculous.
Arghh, I always jinx it. 2 secs after I post that ^ Kp goes.