***THE BETTER HALFS TACTIC UPLOAD & DISCUSSION

TheBetterHalf said:
Recent results with Aston Villa ( 2011/2012)
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Impressive
 
TheBetterHalf said:
Yes, Gabby & Bent upfront. I have also recalled Delfounso and look to bring in 2 more strikers in Januari.
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What changes have you made to the tactic to go 442 (other than the formation obviously)? My results have been really bad lately, scrapped through the semi finals of the Carling Cup against Norwich in extra time, lost about 4 in a row in the league and am now 2 points off 6th. If I can win the carling cup (against Swansea) then I will be happy with any place in the league because I'll already have Europa League football.

I've got 12 games to go in the league, may try and force it through tonight, really wanna finish the season!
 
ChippyLowe said:
What changes have you made to the tactic to go 442 (other than the formation obviously)? My results have been really bad lately, scrapped through the semi finals of the Carling Cup against Norwich in extra time, lost about 4 in a row in the league and am now 2 points off 6th. If I can win the carling cup (against Swansea) then I will be happy with any place in the league because I'll already have Europa League football.

I've got 12 games to go in the league, may try and force it through tonight, really wanna finish the season!
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It sound like you are trying to force the season and forget to micrmanage, using the correct team talk and press conf etc. It almost always backfire.

As for the deep 442, have a look at it in its own thread. The changes are minor but important, like the passing of the wingers and the role of the new FC.
 
TheBetterHalf said:
It sound like you are trying to force the season and forget to micrmanage, using the correct team talk and press conf etc. It almost always backfire.

As for the deep 442, have a look at it in its own thread. The changes are minor but important, like the passing of the wingers and the role of the new FC.
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I'm doing the basics, my teamtalks aren't great, players don't think I'm good at them but theres no response to my assistant's team talks!
I think I'll hold a team meeting and try and raise morale, doesn't help that my team is just weaker now, hopefully will get some money in the summer after winning the carling cup and securing european football, some favourable results in the fa cup have left just Liverpool out of the big clubs so hopefully I can win that too!

I downloaded the 442, I need to retrain N'Zogbia desperately to be able to use it and Agbonlahor has been shocking in front of goal using it!
 
I will try with Hobro. Predicted to relegate in the second best league in Denmark.
 
UnderDog Vs Moster

Works like magic mate good job and keep this going.
 
Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr4* -Narrow Diamo -***Beta Version

TheBetterHalfs Underdog/small team
The Direct Counter
The Narrow Diamond
beta version

Abstract
Here is the 4th formation using the same approach
People that have read my most in recent years know that I have moved away form using plug & play tactic, tactics that by tweaking sliders in a trial & error manor with the aim to beat the match engine rather than the opponent. So this might come as a slight surprise, being a thread where I not only upload such a tactic, but also that I have used someone else's work as a framework ( Akash777)
( so a big credit to AKASH777)

The Versions
This small set consist of 3 versions that are to be used as plug & play tactics. The first version is called "High Press", the 2nd "Lower press" and the 3rd " Patient Stretching". Playing as an underdog, the main versions are the pressing ones. If you feel that you have the ability to disturb the opponent by putting a **** of a lot more pressure on them, then use the high press and if you are more scared that you might be dragged out of position by this superior team, then use the lower press versionIf playing at the top level or just under it, even as an underdog you will come across teams that you are superior to. Then, you can use the "patient stretch" version as an alternative

Formation & Team settings





Tweaks Focus play

When using the high press version and are playing against a team flooding the midfield (by formation), like a narrow diamond or the formation we are using etc, then I change the focus play from "through the middle" to "mixed" as there will not be enough space.

The flow
using Underdogs
As soon as a counter attack is launched, we keep a direct
game and channel t-balls from the middle onto the flanks for our 3 attacking
players to run onto/to their feet after they have taken a run wide. Our single DMC keeps a restricted game and in front of him we have 2 more attacking minded MCs that always seeks free space. When our fullbacks
get into possession deep down field, they hold on to the ball to drag the
opposition onto them. This means that if we face a tea sitting deep and defend,
our attacking players are likely to make a run forward in vain and the FBs hold
onto the ball, making these attacking players easy to mark as the opposition
simply denies us space to play these direct t-balls into. This is why this
approach is for underdogs and perhaps middle teams.

The flow using better teams/ top teams
It does work for top teams to, don't get me wrong. You would easily win the league with Man U, Man C but the flow wont look as good as playing a different approach and you will see more 1-0, 2-1 wins instead of 3-0. 5-1 etc. Simply put, there is no reason to use it unless you like being in agony over those longshots. Here, its important that the Poacher/Advanced FC in the Left FC spot is a more complete player and the Right False nine also is a really good fininsher as he will be the one being at the end of most moves

The Result
None yet


The players
All players:
Determination, Team Work, Work rate and DecisionAlso notice that I have not brought the "common sense stats" in any of the players beneath, like finishing for the strikers or passing for all players etc.

Fullbacks
Style of play
When not launching an counter attack, they should stay back so no ppms like " get forward" etc. These player act like holding players and when seeing fit, they will try to beat their man
Stats
Here, we are looking for pace, anticipation, positioning, stamina and tackling. Dribbling is a huge plus to.-

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Central Defenders
Style of play
As we use loose zonal marking, make sure that they don't have the ppm " like to tight mark"
Stats:
The normal ones: Remember that Anticipation are crucial for any top team and that pace is needed if the opponent launches balls over the top of the defenders. Remember that the worse concentration they have, the more likely you are to concede late in games and when you are dominating but not scoring yourself

DMC - The Ballwinner
Style of play
Here we use a more limited DMC that is used mainly as a ballwinner.

Stats
Stamina, Strength, anticipation, tackling,
Concentration

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MC´s – Central Mids
Style of play
Here we use 2 central Mids that roam to seek free space. The left is the more creative with higher flair and decision stats.
Stats
Positioning, anticipation, tackling,
Concentration, Creativity, Off the ball

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AMC - The Deep Lying AMC
Style of play
If this players had been playing as a FC, he would have been called a false nine. He drops deeper and after that, he seeks free space and moves into channels. Comes deep to get the ball would be a great PPM here as it also would force the Ms c into finding space wider
Stats
Off the ball, Creativity and Stamina !!

Forward - The Pacey Poacher ( left)
Style of play:
This is the main goalscorer. He
needs to be able to find space, break free from his marker by dribbling past
him. When he moves down the line into channels, its also good if he has good
team work stat so he cross the ball to a team mate instead of taking the poor
angle. At higher level, this player can actually be a player like Tevez or
Aguero, RVP, a player that likes to come deep to get the ball
Stats:
Off the all, Flair, Agility, First touch, Technique

Forward - The False Nine ( right)
Style of play
He drops deeper and after that, he seeks free space and moves into channels. Play with back towards the goal, comes deep are preferred moves here.
Stats
Off the ball, Creativity
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MC´s – Central Mids
Style of play
Here we use 2 central Mids that roam to seek free space. The left is the more creative with higher flair and decision stats.
Stats
Positioning, anticipation, tackling,
Concentration, Creativity, Off the ball

Download Link

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=6659


My other Underdog Tactics

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr1 - The Wide 42121 - Promotion with Posh, Morecambe

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr2* - The Deep 4231 -***Beta Version***

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr3* - The Deep 442 -***Beta Version***

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr4* -Narrow Diamo -***Beta Version

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr5* - The 451 -***Beta Version***

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Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr5* - The 451 -***Beta Version***

TheBetterHalfs Underdog/small team
The Direct Counter
Wide 451
beta version

Abstract
Here is the 5th formation using the same approach
People that have read my most in recent years know that I have moved away form using plug & play tactic, tactics that by tweaking sliders in a trial & error manor with the aim to beat the match engine rather than the opponent. So this might come as a slight surprise, being a thread where I not only upload such a tactic, but also that I have used someone else's work as a framework ( Akash777)
( so a big credit to AKASH777)

The Versions
This small set consist of 3 versions that are to be used as plug & play tactics. The first version is called "High Press", the 2nd "Lower press" and the 3rd " Patient Stretching". Playing as an underdog, the main versions are the pressing ones. If you feel that you have the ability to disturb the opponent by putting a **** of a lot more pressure on them, then use the high press and if you are more scared that you might be dragged out of position by this superior team, then use the lower press versionIf playing at the top level or just under it, even as an underdog you will come across teams that you are superior to. Then, you can use the "patient stretch" version as an alternative

Formation & Team settings





Tweaks Focus play



The flow
using Underdogs
As soon as a counter attack is launched, we keep a directgame and channel t-balls from the middle onto the flanks for our 3 attackingplayers to run onto/to their feet after they have taken a run wide. Our single DMC keeps a restricted game and in front of him we have 2 more attacking minded MCs that always seeks free space. When ourfullbacksget into possession deep down field, they hold on to the ball to drag theopposition onto them. This means that if we face a tea sitting deep and defend,
our attacking players are likely to make a run forward in vain and the FBs holdonto the ball, making these attacking players easy to mark as the oppositionsimply denies us space to play these direct t-balls into. This is why this approach is for underdogs and perhaps middle teams.



The flow using better teams/ top teams
It does work for top teams to, don't get me wrong. You would easily win the league with Man U, Man C but the flow wont look as good as playing a different approach and you will see more 1-0, 2-1 wins instead of 3-0. 5-1 etc. Simply put, there is no reason to use it unless you like being in agony over those longshots. Here, its important that the Poacher/Advanced FC in the Left FC spot is a more complete player and the Right False nine also is a really good fininsher as he will be the one being at the end of most moves

The Result
This is called a beta version only because I have not yet played more than 10 matches here and there with some different teams. Here are some results with Stoke though




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Walters on fire upfront And Pennant huging the touchline out wide in the AMR position
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The players
All players:
Determination, Team Work, Work rate and DecisionAlso notice that I have not brought the "common sense stats" in any of the players beneath, like finishing for the strikers or passing for all players etc.

Fullbacks
Style of play
When not launching an counter attack, they should stay back so no ppms like " get forward" etc. These player act like holding players and when seeing fit, they will try to beat their man
Stats
Here, we are looking for pace, anticipation, positioning, stamina and tackling. Dribbling is a huge plus to.-

----------


Central Defenders
Style of play
As we use loose zonal marking, make sure that they don't have the ppm " like to tight mark"
Stats:
The normal ones: Remember that Anticipation are crucial for any top team and that pace is needed if the opponent launches balls over the top of the defenders. Remember that the worse concentration they have, the more likely you are to concede late in games and when you are dominating but not scoring yourself


DMC - The Ballwinner
Style of play
Here we use a more limited DMC that is used mainly as a ballwinner.

Stats
Stamina, Strength, anticipation, tackling,
Concentration

MC´s – Central Mids
Style of play
Here we use 2 central Mids that roam to seek free space. The left is the more creative with higher flair and decision stats.
Stats
Positioning, anticipation, tackling,
Concentration, Creativity, Off the ball

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AMR/LWingers - Complete Wing forwards
Style of play:
As the wingers are used as both pacey Wingforwards AND defensive
hardworking wingers, its naturally COMPLETE players that will do the best of
job. But as these players are really hard to find, I crucial that they most of
all are physical classic English Wingers, that they know how to close down and
tackle. I prefer using players that likes to run down their “own “ flank, using left on left etc. This way, when the left AML hugs the touchline WITH the ball, the 2 MCs and the AMR can run into the box providing him many passing options ( and vice versa on the right flank)
Stats
Pace, off the ball, flair, crossing

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Forward - The Pacey or Smart Poacher
Style of play:
This is the main goalscorer. He
needs to be able to find space, break free from his marker by dribbling past
him. When he moves down the line into channels, its also good if he has good
team work stat so he cross the ball to a tam mate instead of taking the poor
angle. At higher level, this player can actually be a player like Tevez or
Aguero, RVP, a player that likes to come deep to get the ball
Stats:
Off the all, Flair, Agility, First touch, Technique


Tweaks and Shouts
As its a plug & play Tactic using classic mode, I use no tweaks(apart from the mentioned focusplay) and shouts are enabled
Opposition instruction
I have not used any at all but feel free to use them in a manor that suit the actual formation. ( i.e NOT showing MR/L wingers inside if they use overlaping fullbacks

Playmaker & Target Man
None is used

Match prep
There is no focus area that i crucial for the flow of the tactic. If you face a team that are great at set pieces and might focus on attacking set pieces as their only chance, use defensive set pieces. If up against a team you know are going to play really deep and compact BUT have poor attackers, then use attacking movement. If up against a team with really pacey and agile FCs, then use defensive positioning etc etc. Naturally, I use Team Work on a heavy workload in preseason but remember that when using a focus area that relates to the match plan ( like def positioning), the workload have no impact what so ever.

Pitch Size
Looking at the tactic and the circumstance, and you will see the following

•-Close down heavily: Meaning that the bigger pitch, in theory the bigger area to close down. So teams with players lacking in stamina would prefer a smaller pitch.

•Focus the play through the middle: If the pitch is really short, there will be congestion in the middle will struggle to find space.

•- Its a tactic for underdogs, hence opponents are likely to push up and use the width or the field, : Here, a really wide pitch means that these quality players will get too much space

•- The deep d-line and the balls into channels - AS we play a deep d-line, we can actually use a long pitch and as we play a more direct game, putting those t-balls into channels, we would benefit from this long pitch in our attacks to. That is if our 3 attacking players does have great pace and good stamina
So, in short, I would go for a Longer but more narrow pitch


DOWNLOAD LINK
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=6658


My other Underdog Tactics

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr1 - The Wide 42121 - Promotion with Posh, Morecambe

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr2* - The Deep 4231 -***Beta Version***

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr3* - The Deep 442 -***Beta Version***

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr4* -Narrow Diamo -***Beta Version

Underdog/MiddleTeam Tactic -* Nr5* - The 451 -***Beta Version***


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Early start of the new Underdog/middleam 451 ( Wide 42121). Will play another 10 matches before uploading in its own thread. The flow and looks the same as in the other underdog tactics so I dont have play more matches than that before uploading

Fixtures
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Matches - Mind you, I should have lost the Arsenal match but as 7 of their players had " plaing without confidence", they played poorly infront of goal
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Walters on fire upfront
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And Pennant huging the touchline out wide in the AMR position
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TheBetterHalf my english is bad so i have i question. If i play with juventus which of the 3 tactic would be best to use ???
 
I have a question, to use tactics it is necessary depending on the command or from the rival.
If from the rival then what is better for using.
1) Playing houses against the weak?
2) Playing houses against the equal?
3) Playing houses against stronger?
4) Playing on a visit against the weak?
5) Playing on a visit against the equal?
6) Playing on a visit against stronger?
 
TheBetterHalf said:
High press
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Just high press all season ?? (i mean i dont understand description in the OP for all tactic, if i play i dont now real madrid in cl i use high press?) ?
and where to play hamsik i this formation ?
 
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fanfcufa said:
I have a question, to use tactics it is necessary depending on the command or from the rival.
If from the rival then what is better for using.
1) Playing houses against the weak?
2) Playing houses against the equal?
3) Playing houses against stronger?
4) Playing on a visit against the weak?
5) Playing on a visit against the equal?
6) Playing on a visit against stronger?
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Its extremly simple:

If playing as a underdog, Consider only one version, the Lower Press. Then, if you see that you can disturb the opponent further up in the field and put more press on them, then go for it. If your players are being complacent and dont put in the effort, then dont press that high as they wont anyway, only getting some people dragged out of position. I cant tell you what version to use as every single match is different but statistically,

Playing as a team like Liverpool, the high press can be used much more often though.

The Patient stretch version is only when playing inferior teams that sits really, really deep
 
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