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I'd vote for Kaiser Klopp, but that nickname is already taken by Beckenbauer.
 
Club deserves this for not signing defenders and continuing to think players like Cahill and ivanovic are good enough to start
 
cfc12345 said:
Club deserves this for not signing defenders and continuing to think players like Cahill and ivanovic are good enough to start
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I seriously mean what I say: it ruins my whole **** day when we lose, but I couldn't agree more with you. Even an aging Terry makes these "defenders" look like Sunday league spectators at best.
 
cfc12345 said:
Club deserves this for not signing defenders and continuing to think players like Cahill and ivanovic are good enough to start
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Perfectly put, said it a couple of weeks ago there was no chance a desperation signing of David Luiz was going to sort any of this out.

Although having said that, my gut told me you might keep a clean sheet today for some reason, park the bus away from home & try to hit them on the counter.
 
I think Conte should just do what Ranieri did at half time, admit defeat & just take off the likes of Hazard & Costa to preserve them for their midweek European ga..... oh, wait.

#ShitBanter.

In all seriousness, Mourinho would never have went to the Emirates and have been raped like this for your lot. I thought you had came on quite a bit under Conte, now, I'm not so sure.
 
If we come back from this I'm gonna play you Smoke on the Water on bass. Don't know it but I swear to god I'll learn it :))
 
Whoa i'm actually going to enjoy this today in the worst possible way but how and where do i start this!!!!! Lets start with our "head coach" as his title states. He is not immune to criticism here, he's been watching the same matches as us yet he still continues to pick players who are not good enough! Cahill, Ivanovic and Matic all continue to be picked despite performing so unbelievably **** in the past 12 months. If your intent on playing Matic further forward than the other midfield 2 then why even play Matic at all surely Oscar suits that role better (even if he's **** too). I got hammered by so many after the win mid-week for saying i felt Moses should start instead of Willian today, the lads mum is/was in hospital on the other side of the world with cancer his head (rightfully) is not there. Even with that aside Moses is in form and we have so little players in good form surely it makes sense to play the ones who are???? Hazards latest performances see him slipping back into last seasons form and his attitude for me is the thing which i've always said will keep him from reaching the levels of Neymar and Suarez etc. Kante had not only his worst game in a Chelsea shirt but his worst performance in this country! 3-0 down at halftime today and 2-0 down last Friday yet he believes the same 11 who got us to that position deserves to stay on or could miraculously turn it around so makes no changes at halftime or even before! Yes okay subs may not be the answer but one thing it does do is send a message to the team, he even in this early stages i'm afraid to say is losing my confidence and he has to change something drastically.


Yes i know its not fully Conte's fault or that he deserves majority of the blame because he doesn't. The club and its model has caught up with them immensely and failed catastrophically. Selling dead cert sensational players in 1 or 2 good years time (De Bruyne and Lukaku) just to make a "profit". Signing way below par players time and time again. Catapulting potentially good youth players away from the club in bulk. Continuing to offer below average players new contracts like Ivanovic. Yes i know these are things we've all complained about endless times in the past but the clubs failings are so sensational its unbelievable!


I want to end on Gary Cahill, yes he was fouled vs Swansea however he held onto the ball far too long. He also if you remember held onto the ball too long mid-week vs Leicester and Musa got in one on one fortunately they didn't score. And then today exactly the same mistake, 3 of the same mistake not even a 4 year old would make in 4 matches! It got me believing our matches have to be scripted it was so surreal!


It absolutely killed me witnessing that today as it did us all however i think this team and club deserved and needed a pounding. The fans however especially the ones who paid huge amounts of money to be there do not deserve what we all saw today.


Things need to change in bulk especially with our back-line.


WOLUTB!!!
 
Just think if you didn't have the likes of Kennedy and Traore out on loan to change things too CJ.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Just think if you didn't have the likes of Kennedy and Traore out on loan to change things too CJ.
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don't bud, just don't lol. I think the only time i've been as angry as this is when we got robbed of a place in the champions league final in 2009.
 
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Losing to both the teams I can't stand us losing to, and in only the space of a week.

ffs boys...
 
Andras99 said:
I know it's the Daily Mail, but a man can hope.

Antonio Conte plans defensive clear-out at Chelsea with Gary Cahill and Branislav Ivanovic expected to be phased out after Arsenal defeat | Daily Mail Online
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If this is true, and I would be amazed if it isn't, he has to be given time. The culling of the old guard last time took so ******* long that we've ended up with a whole new wave of declining players that need to be cut but have the dressing room support. Another few years of manager roulette is not going to help us. Conte is the absolute perfect person to change that: back him and give him at least 2 seasons. By the end of it, we will at the very least have solved the problems that have been plaguing us for years. Regardless of what you think of him and his tactics, he is the ideal person to remould this squad back into a team again.

We absolutely have to give him the power and the signings to do this though, no excuses. People are getting mad at Hazard, Costa and Courtois for being a bit coy about their futures, but what do you expect? They were signing for a team that was meant to be fighting for the title every year, a club just below the absolute elite who could make deep runs into the CL. The whole reason they signed for us in the first place was because they're ambitious. Don't lambast the players for that, criticise the club for not matching their ambitions.
 
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Average Joe said:
Who would you bring in / replace if it were you Subtle?
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The problem for me is that we lack an identity really. It's tempting to look at Liverpool and want to copy that model, to be a very hardworking team that works very well as a unified whole. The thing is, I don't think that's what we're about really. Klopp when he came in said any players that didn't want to play for the club could leave, regardless of talent. Taking the same approach for us would mean losing the likes of Courtois, Hazard and maybe even Costa, and keeping the Oscars, Willians, Ivas.

There's more than one way to skin a rabbit though, and passion doesn't just come from blind devotion to the club and its values. That works for places like Dortmund and Liverpool, who have very passionate, defined identities that are all about their history and their culture. Our club's approach, even at its height, was different and is, IMO, very suited to the best players that we have and to our manager. At our best, we had this sort of nouveau riche arrogance, a "we don't give a **** about your history, we're going to obliterate you here and now" that you also saw in Ancelotti's Madrid, several of the Ferguson United sides and, crucially, in Conte's Juve. The key thing he gave back to them was their arrogance. They didn't just go out and win for the fans and for passion and for rainbows and puppies but because they were ************* Juventus. They were elite, they were special, and holy **** they were going to show it.

That is what we need again. The spirit of Drogba, and A. Cole and Lampard, the stubborn pigheaded refusal to lose. People, IMO, have the completely wrong idea about what is needed from a player in terms of loyalty and passion. Players like Willian and Oscar will fight and die for the badge, and that's great but there's a reason why Lee Cattermole won't be winning the league any time soon.

I think the only way we'll get it back is to be brutal. Cahill has been a faithful and passionate servant to the club, as has Iva. Both are no longer on the level we need, both should be out. Gently, on loan if they need it, and for sod all in return to ease the deal, but out. You keep the players who step up and perform, the players with iron will and the ambition to be the best. Tell Pedro and Willian, you both have until January, the one who doesn't deliver is out. Same with Oscar and Matic. Make it clear to Hazard and Courtois that you're going to stop accepting passionate mediocrity and start stepping back up as a club. That the club shares their amibitions to be one of the elite again and will sign accordingly. In return though, that means the stakes are going back up. We might value them, but if they don't perform, they are going to get benched. If they try and sulk or force a move, they will be going to the reserves. They want ambition from the club? Here it is. Now it's time to shut up and deliver.

Finally you make it clear to the players that the days of charity contract extensions to leaders in the dressing room are over. We tried the soft approach of appeasement, it didn't work. You don't play to the standard needed, you are out. You do, well then you can part of a team that is going to be ambitious enough to win titles, chase the CL, be looking for multiple trophies every single ******* year.

Bring someone in as the new vice in January, ideally a CB, promote them to captain in the summer and make Cesc vice.
 
Is it just me or are Chelsea are hard to watch? Hazard currently looks in "not arsed" mode lately, which is becoming way too frequent, seems like such a spoilt brat. When he's in the mood, he's a world beater, so why does he not just be hungry all the time? Surely it can't be that hard to turn up with a positive "give me the ball and I'll make things happen" mood when you have all of that talent and when you're on 200k a week or whatever it is.

Now watch him go on to put in a Man Of The Match performance in the second half.
 
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