Tell that to FFP... When you struggle in Europe, and i am sorry your squad needs an over haul, the biggest since 2004. Yet you need a manager you can gaurentee will be there when the younger players( he is going to bring in) come to there peak, otherwise he has no incentive to go for younger players, and i am talking about still being a big club when he leaves.. If that is 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or 20 years.
The thing with FFP and i have said this from the offset as has many jounelists clubs will have found ways around this rule. Im not saying i agree with it but im saying they will have found a way without a dout. For instance there is nothing stopping Citys owner from sponsoring the club for 50mill a year for 5 years. I personly think the squad is in better nick than people make out, replacing Drogba and Lampard will be the hardest thing.
Ever heard of long-term stability? No? oh, of course not, you're a Chelsea fan.
It's this thing that teams like Arsenal, United (and to a certain extent Liverpool) have all had - which has ensured that they have remained big clubs for long periods of time. If I'm being honest, I see Chelsea remaining a big club for maybe 10 years longer? If that - As soon as "Uncle Roman" gets bored, you've ****** it..
But then Rules will be brought in to replace these ways round it.. Without a doubt.
You will need to srsly think about replacing Cole, Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Essien, Malouda in the next 24 months... Now i know you have youngsters, but come on, lets be honest, the youngster( apart from maybe Josh) are good enough to fill the boots of these stars.
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Even before Roman bought Chelsea the club were trigger happy with managers so people cant even blame him.
Basicly the same old comments we hear every year. "ohhh Roman is getting bored, he hasent been at games for a while".
Breaking News: Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has splashed out 70million on 2 players.
Bla bla bla heard it all before. Top clubs get bought and if/when Roman decides to leave Chelsea he will want some return on his money so im pretty sure he will only sell to a man/company that can pay their way.
Clubs have certain ways of doing things, some clubs like to keep hold of managers for long periods which on the plus side brings stability but on the bad side it makes sacking them harder. And some clubs like to chop and change on a regular basis which on the plus side keeps the club learning new ideas on a regular basis but on the bad side the players never know what to expect.
Even before Roman bought Chelsea the club were trigger happy with managers so people cant even blame him.
You never sacked a double winning manager before him.
Cole - Van Aanholt
Terry - Luiz
Lampard - you cant replace but you have to find a way around it, maybe McEachran or new signing i.e Modric/Moutinho
Essien - Ramires
Drogba - Lukaku (looks more than likely to go through) if not then maybe Falcao
Malouda - Sturridge or even a new signing this summer
No but we sacked the manager (Gullit) who won us our first trophy for 30 years. And then sacked a manager (Vialli) who won 3 trophys in just 4-5 months.
How much longer do you think he can do that for? Not long, you say you can get around FFP - but I doubt you can, UEFA will make this thing airtight, as they can't afford not to.
& I genuinely don't think you'll stay as a big club, purely for the way you're run - the same reason I don't see City as being a big club for very long. I see Spurs as more of a threat in the long term than either of you.
Also at the moment i believe Chelsea, Man City, Barcelona and Real Madrid and im sure more are all in danger of not being allowed to play in the Champions League. What are the sponsors going to think?? They are sponsoring the Champions League to see the best teams in it and if 4 of them are not then they will pull out without a dout.
Cole is the Best left back in the world. your having a joke if you really think PVA can replace him
Luiz replaces terry, Luiz currently starts with Terry. Alex is no spring chicken.
Ramires to replace Essien, So your not actually planning on bringing anyone new into the first team squad, talk about lowering options.
Lukaku, He is a new signing, who to help his development, will need stabiliity.
Sturridge isnt a winger.
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Still you never sacked a manager who was your most successful manager of modern times, a man who won you what 6 trophies in 4 years.
You never sacked a double winning coach in his debut season.
I honestly can't see PVA or Bertrand making it tbh at Chelsea
Just to but in, they did a study in April( i think it was) And only Man City and Chelsea failed to make the FFP rules. And Plantini when asked, said they know how long they have to sort it.
PVA will get better with time, Cole was 20 once lets not forget and Cole has 2-3 years left in him yet. Alex is 28 and Ivanovic is 27 so its not that bad. Essien is only 28!!! Lukaku is 18 so when the likes of Drogba/Lampard retire he will be developed. And Sturridge will play in a front 3 either on the right or on the left.
I know we never sacked the managers before obviously but my point is the club has not changed, Gullit and Vialli won things when Chelsea wearnt expected to so its just as big as what Mourinho and Ancelotti did when we were expected to win things.
Well Barca are in the red and it was well documented.
just wondering here but am I the only Chelsea fan not getting too excited over McEachran? He has potential but if Chelsea don't give him chances young and leave him in the reserves/on bench he may not turn into anything special and also he may be getting bait overhyped and over rated ATM. I mean remember Jody Morris?
I know he is 20, but lets look at other talents at 20. Rooney was starting for utd and England( he isnt best striker in the wolrd), Wilshere is starting for Arsenal, so was Ramsey. Messi was playing for Barca, Ronaldo was in Utd first team at 19. Whilst PVA wont be this season.
28, this is his prime, only downhill from here. The point is, Lukaku will need stability, Not chopping and changing of managers every 12 months.
No-one has done for your club what Jose did. PERIOD.
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Yes Barcelona have debts and it is well documented, they also have a 98,000 seater and are commercially one of the biggest clubs in the world.
I know he is 20, but lets look at other talents at 20. Rooney was starting for utd and England( he isnt best striker in the wolrd), Wilshere is starting for Arsenal, so was Ramsey. Messi was playing for Barca, Ronaldo was in Utd first team at 19. Whilst PVA wont be this season.
28, this is his prime, only downhill from here. The point is, Lukaku will need stability, Not chopping and changing of managers every 12 months.
No-one has done for your club what Jose did. PERIOD.
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Yes Barcelona have debts and it is well documented, they also have a 98,000 seater and are commercially one of the biggest clubs in the world.
PVA will hence why he just signed a long term deal. Bertrand wont but only because PVA is better and younger than him.
Well Barca are in the red and it was well documented.
I know he is 20, but lets look at other talents at 20. Rooney was starting for utd and England( he isnt best striker in the wolrd), Wilshere is starting for Arsenal, so was Ramsey. Messi was playing for Barca, Ronaldo was in Utd first team at 19. Whilst PVA wont be this season.
28, this is his prime, only downhill from here. The point is, Lukaku will need stability, Not chopping and changing of managers every 12 months.
No-one has done for your club what Jose did. PERIOD.
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Yes Barcelona have debts and it is well documented, they also have a 98,000 seater and are commercially one of the biggest clubs in the world.
And they have the best youth set up in the world..
Lol, he signed a long term deal therefore will make it at chelsea?
Of corse there are no guarrentes i never said that. Im comparring him to Bertrand who never got a new deal so obviously the club prefer PVA