The Chelsea Thread

[CJACKO11]

As an attacking midfielder, I'd go with average.

By calling him over-rated, I'm not calling him **** (aimed at Chelsea fans) - I just don't think he's one of the best midfielders around (much like I don't think Gerrard is) - he's not up there with Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane etc etc. Never the less, he's a good player, but as GC says, you could replace him with Hamsik/Moutinho etc. in ability wise however, replacing what he means to the club, is almost impossible - as impossible as replacing Gerrard & Carragher for what they symbolise.

I would never say he is up there with the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Zidane etc because its quite clear he isent. Also Lampard is not an attaking midfielder and infact plays pretty ***** in attaking midfield. He likes to play alot deeper than that so he can have a choice of taking on the shot, playing a teamate in or spreading it wide where he can burst into the box late unmarked.

Saying that i dont think he is over-rated nor do i think Gerrard is over-rated. The way i look at it is both Lampard and Gerrard are past their best now, but when at their best they would have got into any side in the world and with good reason. When i say we cant replace him i mean the whole package, the goals, assists, leadership and sentimental value to Chelsea FC. But there are new players now and new ways of playing and that is the way around it.

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Also reports are suggesting Boas wants Eto'o from Inter, they are keen to offload and would sell him for around 12million.

 

[ChrisBird]

I would never say he is up there with the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Zidane etc because its quite clear he isent. Also Lampard is not an attaking midfielder and infact plays pretty ***** in attaking midfield. He likes to play alot deeper than that so he can have a choice of taking on the shot, playing a teamate in or spreading it wide where he can burst into the box late unmarked.

Saying that i dont think he is over-rated nor do i think Gerrard is over-rated. The way i look at it is both Lampard and Gerrard are past their best now, but when at their best they would have got into any side in the world and with good reason. When i say we cant replace him i mean the whole package, the goals, assists, leadership and sentimental value to Chelsea FC. But there are new players now and new ways of playing and that is the way around it.

Agreed.

Also reports are suggesting Boas wants Eto'o from Inter, they are keen to offload and would sell him for around 12million.

I saw that too. Would be an absolute bargain. Still don't want him though as I don't think he's needed and is 30 now.

 

[sunilvk7]

Also reports are suggesting Boas wants Eto'o from Inter, they are keen to offload and would sell him for around 12million.

President said Maicon, Eto'o and Sneijder are going nowhere. Where did you read that, 38 ******* goals and they want to offload him for just 12 Million? No way.. Rumors that Eto'o wants to move to Premier league but President said no one will be leaving..

And for 12 Million you get Eto'o left boot laces..

 

[Alcaraz]

Just to weigh in on the manager arguement.... chopping and changing managers is not always a bad thing u know, just look at a club like Arsenal, Arsene has been their manager for what 14-15 years now and in the past 6 years he has failed to win them anything, in his whole tenture he has failed to even win the CL while we Chelsea have missed out on it through a piece of mud, poor refereeing decisions etc.

Sure you can argue that with a man like Arsene at the helm, Arsenal have long-term stability and a manager who knows the club and squad well hence maybe in a few years they can push for trophies but then is'nt that what people have been saying for the past 6 years now and has it happened... no not really

Ancelloti's sacking was justified in my opinion, he failed to recover us from ur horrific mid-season slump, sure hre tried his best to accomdate Torres even when he did no want Torres but then if you are a top-class manager one would have found a way to get the best out of Torres in the 6 or so months, we never looked any god even in the latter part of the season during our so called rejuvenation, we would have never challenged Man Utd for the title if we failed to beat Tottenam which should have happened as both goals we scored were complete flukes

Even in our first part of the season we beat Man Utd through poor refereeing decisions and then we got comprehensively beaten by them in both legs of the CL Quarters... when u consider that Man Utd were chasing both the CL and PLM trophies while or whole attention was supposed to be focused on the CL as we were out of every other competition, thats a hard pill to swallow

Also the fact that our season went into a downward spiral as soon as Ray Wilkins was sacked was quite fishy, does that mean that our dressing room had more respect for Wilkins not Ancelloti

 

[Scott]

Seriously?? I thought it was Scott saying, i had to look twice.

You clearly have no idea about me then mate. I rate lamps

President said Maicon, Eto'o and Sneijder are going nowhere. Where did you read that, 38 ******* goals and they want to offload him for just 12 Million? No way.. Rumors that Eto'o wants to move to Premier league but President said no one will be leaving..

And for 12 Million you get Eto'o left boot laces..

it is likely to be 12 million in Wages a season a lone.

 

[BlueHeart]

Villas-Boas to start Chelsea reign with £80million deals for Falcao, Moutinho and... Neymar!


lol

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VILLAS-BOAS APPOINTED

Posted on: Wed 22 Jun 2011
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce that Andre Villas-Boas will be the club's new manager.

He has signed a three-year contract and will start work immediately.

Andre was the outstanding candidate for the job. He is one of the most talented young managers in football today and has already achieved much in a relatively short space of time. His ambition, drive and determination matches that of Chelsea and we are confident Andre's leadership of the team will result in greater successes in major domestic and European competitions.

Andre will bring his coaching experience back to a club he is already very familiar with, having previously worked here for three years. He has always been highly regarded at Chelsea and everyone here looks forward to welcoming him back and working with him.




CMON CHELSEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sunilvk7]

Just to weigh in on the manager arguement.... chopping and changing managers is not always a bad thing u know, just look at a club like Arsenal, Arsene has been their manager for what 14-15 years now and in the past 6 years he has failed to win them anything, in his whole tenture he has failed to even win the CL while we Chelsea have missed out on it through a piece of mud, poor refereeing decisions etc.

Sure you can argue that with a man like Arsene at the helm, Arsenal have long-term stability and a manager who knows the club and squad well hence maybe in a few years they can push for trophies but then is'nt that what people have been saying for the past 6 years now and has it happened... no not really

Ancelloti's sacking was justified in my opinion, he failed to recover us from ur horrific mid-season slump, sure hre tried his best to accomdate Torres even when he did no want Torres but then if you are a top-class manager one would have found a way to get the best out of Torres in the 6 or so months, we never looked any god even in the latter part of the season during our so called rejuvenation, we would have never challenged Man Utd for the title if we failed to beat Tottenam which should have happened as both goals we scored were complete flukes

Even in our first part of the season we beat Man Utd through poor refereeing decisions and then we got comprehensively beaten by them in both legs of the CL Quarters... when u consider that Man Utd were chasing both the CL and PLM trophies while or whole attention was supposed to be focused on the CL as we were out of every other competition, thats a hard pill to swallow

Also the fact that our season went into a downward spiral as soon as Ray Wilkins was sacked was quite fishy, does that mean that our dressing room had more respect for Wilkins not Ancelloti

What a load of....

It took a month to realize that Carlo deserved to be sacked? If one poor season is all it takes to lose a job then no manager in the world can stay beyond very few years at same club.

Roman made a mistake by sacking Jose, then also did by sacking Carlo. If anything he cut short the loss by appointing AVB.

So Torres was dog bollocks who had first touch worse than League 1 player and it was Manager's mistake? Surely you think Del Bosque is not a good manager as he didn't get best of Torres in World cup before that and after that..

How easily you forgot record breaking season scoring more than 100 league goals and winning league. Which was the first time Chelsea played good football in a decade and Drogba has season of his career..

And regarding Wenger, I wont even touch that as 6 year drought is nothing even the great managers had drought and Wenger is no exception.

 

[GodCubed]

I can't fathom why Chelsea are being linked with strikers. They really, REALLY don't need a striker.

 

[Alcaraz]

What a load of....

It took a month to realize that Carlo deserved to be sacked? If one poor season is all it takes to lose a job then no manager in the world can stay beyond very few years at same club.

Roman made a mistake by sacking Jose, then also did by sacking Carlo. If anything he cut short the loss by appointing AVB.

So Torres was dog bollocks who had first touch worse than League 1 player and it was Manager's mistake? Surely you think Del Bosque is not a good manager as he didn't get best of Torres in World cup before that and after that..

How easily you forgot record breaking season scoring more than 100 league goals and winning league. Which was the first time Chelsea played good football in a decade and Drogba has season of his career..

And regarding Wenger, I wont even touch that as 6 year drought is nothing even the great managers had drought and Wenger is no exception.

I will redute ur other points later as right now I am talking to my gf lol


On the last point, no manager has a drought when he has a top club in his hands filled with potential superstars, seriously he could have won atleast a cup if not the PLM

 

[Joss]

I can't fathom why Chelsea are being linked with strikers. They really, REALLY don't need a striker.

I feel for Danny Sturridge. He's no more likely to get a chance at Chelsea than he was at City, really.

 

[GodCubed]

I feel for Danny Sturridge. He's no more likely to get a chance at Chelsea than he was at City, really.

On the other hand, he moved to both because of money. I wouldn't feel TOO sorry for him.

 

[Alcaraz]

I feel for Danny Sturridge. He's no more likely to get a chance at Chelsea than he was at City, really.

err we gave him 21 apperances in the first half of the last season and we let him go on loan as we knew that we needed new players if we were to rescue our season which we did to a certain extent... he should get more apps next year or he will go on loan... i dont think he is ready to play week in and out just yet as we have quality strikers at the club

 

[ChrisBird]

Anyone know when the press conference is?

 

[BlueHeart]

Anyone know when the press conference is?

I JUST HEARD THAT THERE WILL BE AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH AVB AT 6.30 .... IM NOT SURE. something like that!

 

[Joss]

err we gave him 21 apperances in the first half of the last season and we let him go on loan as we knew that we needed new players if we were to rescue our season which we did to a certain extent... he should get more apps next year or he will go on loan... i dont think he is ready to play week in and out just yet as we have quality strikers at the club

Err - he came off the bench 13 times in the league and had only 4 starts for you in all competitions. That's hardly being given a chance is it? And if you read the quote I was responding to - the idea that Sturridge will get MORE chances at Chelsea next season simply isn't true if you go out and buy another striker: Neymar, Falcao, Hulk, Aguero, Lukaku all apparently on the radar.

He's 21 - so one of your more senior "Youth" players. He may not be good enough to play every week, but he's certainly good enough to fill in when someone gets a short-term injury, and not to be pushed aside by a brand spanking new £50m striker who can't score for toffee but the manager feels has to play to justify the price-tag.

Project Youth failed, but there was clearly an acceptance that it has to happen some time. It will never succeed if players like Sturridge and McEachran are ignored and blocked by big money signings.

 

[*Jones*]

I'm seriously wondering how long AVB will last at Chelsea - one of the hottest young managers around and I fear he won't be given a proper chance at Chelsea. Would be such a shame to see the same happen to him as what happened to Ancelotti. Also annoyed as I was hoping he'd be the guy to replace Kenny..

Chelsea fans - check this link: AVB scout report Vs. Newcastle.

 

[Alcaraz]

Err - he came off the bench 13 times in the league and had only 4 starts for you in all competitions. That's hardly being given a chance is it? And if you read the quote I was responding to - the idea that Sturridge will get MORE chances at Chelsea next season simply isn't true if you go out and buy another striker: Neymar, Falcao, Hulk, Aguero, Lukaku all apparently on the radar.

He's 21 - so one of your more senior "Youth" players. He may not be good enough to play every week, but he's certainly good enough to fill in when someone gets a short-term injury, and not to be pushed aside by a brand spanking new £50m striker who can't score for toffee but the manager feels has to play to justify the price-tag.

Project Youth failed, but there was clearly an acceptance that it has to happen some time. It will never succeed if players like Sturridge and McEachran are ignored and blocked by big money signings.

Mate just because Torres has had a bad run of form does not make him any less of a player, ask any manager and they will tell you that its hard for players to adapt to a new club and new surroundings if they come in January no less if they come for a British Transfer record, its been tough for Torres but I am sure he will regain form and play to his best next season... Torres is up there with the best strikers in the world when he is on song so if you gave me a choice on who I would play in my first-team I would choose Torres over Sturridge any day


I agree with u on Josh but then the lad is only 17-18, I really dont think he can play week in and out for a top club just yet, Chelsea should send him on loan to Bolton where he will get way more chances and it will probably do him a world of good

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I'm seriously wondering how long AVB will last at Chelsea - one of the hottest young managers around and I fear he won't be given a proper chance at Chelsea. Would be such a shame to see the same happen to him as what happened to Ancelotti. Also annoyed as I was hoping he'd be the guy to replace Kenny..

Chelsea fans - check this link: AVB scout report Vs. Newcastle.

Not suprised with the density in his scout report, this fella is obsessed with detail just like his old man Mourinho

He is one of the hottest managers around and yes I do fear that he will not be given a proper chance, Chelsea fans can only pray cos he can really do wonders for us


Btw when AVB was at Chelsea as a assistant, the players really liked him as he used to really work hard and make DVDs telling players of their direct opponent in matches and what are his strengths and weaknesses, even Jose admitted that AVB was his 'eyes and ears' and played a huge role at Chelsea

 

[Joss]

When did I say Torres was a bad player? I just said he couldn't score for toffee.. which he couldn't. Don't give me that **** about him being under pressure because of the transfer record and adapting to a new club - he had a **** season all-round. He wasn't scoring for Liverpool, and he scored once (after more than 10 games?) for Chelsea. But instead of dropping him, Carlo had to play him - you can't just drop a £50m striker that quickly; he thought he had to justify the (Roman's) signing, so he played him and desperately tried to fit in while Sturridge was scoring for fun on loan at Bolton.

 

[Sulsey]

Just read on Twitter:

"Chelsea have spent more money on sacking managers in the last 5 years than Arsenal have spent on players".

 

[CJACKO11]

You clearly have no idea about me then mate. I rate lamps



it is likely to be 12 million in Wages a season a lone.

I know you rate Lamps but its just somthing you would say to get a reaction lol

I can't fathom why Chelsea are being linked with strikers. They really, REALLY don't need a striker.

Tell me about it, unless he is going to sell Drogba and Anelka then it dosent make sence

I feel for Danny Sturridge. He's no more likely to get a chance at Chelsea than he was at City, really.

Sturridge will play widr right in a front 3 so yes he will/should get games

Just read on Twitter:

"Chelsea have spent more money on sacking managers in the last 5 years than Arsenal have spent on players".

I dont know whether that says more about Chelsea or Arsenal to be honest.

Very happy with the appointement and the more i learn about the man the more confident i become. The mans attension to detail is very presice and i think Chelsea need to go back to this (what they had under Mourinho). Im pretty sure we will be busy in this window with players in and out and i'll be their 16thJuly at Fratton Park cheering on our new manager.

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Apparently Falcao has changed agents in the last 24hours to a man who is very well connected to Chelsea. Also Real Madrid want him so it looks as if it might be Boas vs Mourinho round 1.