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But thats why i said year after year ChelseaFC as a brand is growing and is making more and more money every year.

Your revenue grew 1.2% in a year. Hardly breaking boundaries. The only good thing for your accounts this year will be the culling of big wages like Ballack, Cole etc.
 
It does, actually. The rules stipulate you can only spend what you earn (in its essence, anyway) and as such where it comes from is extremely important. You can't just get Uncle Roman to pour 200 mil into the kitty: you need to have made that money through whatever means, merchandise or otherwise. That's why Arsenal will be fine (they're well run), United will be fine (their merchandising machine is massive and their popularity global) and Chelsea will be ******.


are we honestly going to start this topic again, have a look at the last 10 pages and this topic has been widely discussed and raged over several times... time will tell if we are ****** or not
 
Bad performances happen like how Maicon was ripped to bits by the one-dimensional Gareth Bale and he is considering one of the best RBs in the world... one bad day at the office does not mean you brand someone as incompetent particularly if he is a proven player who gives world-class performances on his day like Cole has

Point is, those good days are getting less frequent and the bad ones more so. Cole wasn't only beaten by Valencia; Downing, Jarvis, Richardson, Lennon, even Aiden McGeady against Spartak away all gave him major trouble. The good performances were excellent: Wigan, West Ham, Spurs, Sunderland, Arsenal and WBA were all on the receiving end of the Cole of old, but in my eyes he's getting less and less consistent, something which is pivotal for a full-back.
 
Point is, those good days are getting less frequent and the bad ones more so. Cole wasn't only beaten by Valencia; Downing, Jarvis, Richardson, Lennon, even Aiden McGeady against Spartak away all gave him major trouble. The good performances were excellent: Wigan, West Ham, Spurs, Sunderland, Arsenal and WBA were all on the receiving end of the Cole of old, but in my eyes he's getting less and less consistent, something which is pivotal for a full-back.


and which is to be expected when u reach 30 years of age, does not take away the fact that on his day he is capable of stopping any winger in the world
 
but we already have a good enough squad to compete for the title, we were just ****** last season by injuries to key players and yet we finished second... we did buy Torres and Luiz but both of them were hardly in sparkling form and it was our original team that led us to nearly piping United to the title

Sure, but you certainly won't in the future. You need to rejuvenate your squad, and if you can't generate the funds to buy excellent players to replace your ageing ones then you'll be forced to either change your strategy or just stop buying top players.

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and which is to be expected when u reach 30 years of age, does not take away the fact that on his day he is capable of stopping any winger in the world

But is 'on his day' going to be good enough? Particularly when it's only going to get worse...
 
Sure, but you certainly won't in the future. You need to rejuvenate your squad, and if you can't generate the funds to buy excellent players to replace your ageing ones then you'll be forced to either change your strategy or just stop buying top players.


we got some very good Youth Players in our ranks, I am sure that if we utilise them more they can become first teamers for our club and still challenge for the title

Daniel Sturridge- Proven PL Striker

Jeffrey Bruma- Senior International for Holland

Lucas Piazon- Was man of the tournament for the U-17 South American Championships, likened to Kaka

Nathaneil Chalobah- England U-17 Captain

Josh M.- One of Englands brightest prospects

David Luiz- Quality Player

Ramires- Very good debut season, looked out of place at first but improved considerably

PVA- Understudy to Cole



These group of players can easily go onto to form the core of our team in the coming years if we utilise them meaning we wont have to spend much, cos controrary to popular belief we actually have a great Youth Set-Up, we have read the FA Youth Cup Semi-finals on 4 occassions and although it is not as good as Man Utds or Arsenal, it is certainly improving

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Sure, but you certainly won't in the future. You need to rejuvenate your squad, and if you can't generate the funds to buy excellent players to replace your ageing ones then you'll be forced to either change your strategy or just stop buying top players.

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But is 'on his day' going to be good enough? Particularly when it's only going to get worse...

you cant really help it if you are 30 tbh and since the whole squad as a whole was having a bad season, it surely affected his performances as well, Morale was at an all time low with the sacking of Ray Wilkins and then our subsequent exit from the CL, FA Cup and League Cup
 
30 is not the end of football career. Its his peak years..
 
its very objective based on player to player when they peak, it is very unfair to put a nominal number on when a player peaks tbh

Players get better with experience and its in late 20s they will perform better than ever.. There are few cases where Players faded away quickly but ideally 30 is considered peak years not past his best age..
 
Players get better with experience and its in late 20s they will perform better than ever.. There are few cases where Players faded away quickly but ideally 30 is considered peak years not past his best age..


then by your reasoning, Cole should be at his peak right now however as GC mentioned he has had many more bad days at the office than last season so against poor teams too so basically that makes him a very average player at his peak ... yet before this supposed peak he has played and been sold by a top Club Like Arsenal and Real Madrid are also not interested in him even tho he is at his peak

Get real Sunil, different bodies have different requirements, we all peak at different ages and its unfair to put a nominal numbers on when a person will peak as a footie player
 
then by your reasoning, Cole should be at his peak right now however as GC mentioned he has had many more bad days at the office than last season so against poor teams too so basically that makes him a very average player at his peak ... yet before this supposed peak he has played and been sold by a top Club Like Arsenal and Real Madrid are also not interested in him even tho he is at his peak

Get real Sunil, different bodies have different requirements, we all peak at different ages and its unfair to put a nominal numbers on when a person will peak as a footie player

I dont know where you got this story that Madrid are interested in him.

One bad season dont make him past his best player. And i dont know what you meant by this

d Real Madrid are also not interested in him even tho he is at his peak

Well If you think Cole is done as a player and declining just because he is 30, then well I wont argue against it as He is not.

I'm done with this, when he plays better next season I wont be surprised to see you lot saying Best LB in the world..
 
Marcelo is ridiculously underrated. It's only now that he's beginning to get recognition from the wider press.

He may be underrated but he is not as good as Cole.

Your revenue grew 1.2% in a year. Hardly breaking boundaries. The only good thing for your accounts this year will be the culling of big wages like Ballack, Cole etc.

Still a growth is it not??

Sure, but you certainly won't in the future. You need to rejuvenate your squad, and if you can't generate the funds to buy excellent players to replace your ageing ones then you'll be forced to either change your strategy or just stop buying top players.

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But is 'on his day' going to be good enough? Particularly when it's only going to get worse...

But whats your future?? People are speaking as if Chelsea's players will be old in 3 years time?? Which teams players wont be older?? All teams will lose players in 3 years time not just Chelsea's

I dont know where you got this story that Madrid are interested in him.

One bad season dont make him past his best player. And i dont know what you meant by this



Well If you think Cole is done as a player and declining just because he is 30, then well I wont argue against it as He is not.

I'm done with this, when he plays better next season I wont be surprised to see you lot saying Best LB in the world..

If you look i actually said although i dont agree with this link it is somthing i could see happening.
 
He may be underrated but he is not as good as Cole.

No, but that doesn't make him bad. He's very close to Cole's ability.

But whats your future?? People are speaking as if Chelsea's players will be old in 3 years time?? Which teams players wont be older?? All teams will lose players in 3 years time not just Chelsea's

Yes, well noticed, but not all teams have an average age as high as Chelsea's. The ravages of time will affect Chelsea far more than others.
 
It's beyond me how you've grown if your revenue rises 1.2% while your costs rise by double or triple that.

Because im talking about numbers. i.e fanbase numbers in terms of growth which inevitably will bring in more revinue in the future. Our costs are mainly down to wages which somthing can be done about that.
 
Because im talking about numbers. i.e fanbase numbers in terms of growth which inevitably will bring in more revinue in the future. Our costs are mainly down to wages which somthing can be done about that.

I'm talking about numbers. Most of that revenue growth is due to inflation itself, so your revenue is practically flat.
 
Alacaraz - you have a horrible idea of the word "Youth" and which players will be able to step up sooner, rather than later.

David Luiz and Ramires are 24. They're not young players any more and certainly aren't part of your "Youth set-up".

Piazon is 17. Does Lampard have 2/3 years left (at least) at the top while Lucas matures and is eventually ready to form the "core" of your side?

Chalobah is 16 FFS. Talk about hype.

And what happened last season when you gave Bruma and PVA chances? You flopped big time. They're not ready - and how long before these players realise that they're not going to get proper chances? Instead of slowly bringing them through, Chelsea threw them in the deep end and they drowned pretty spectacularly. So Chelsea go out and buy Fernando Torres and David Luiz and offload 21 YO Sturridge on loan...
 
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