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GodCubed said:
Even if I was jumping on any bandwagon, it's hardly a new one now is it. I wasn't slating Chelsea fans for any of the actions that everyone else was, even though frankly I reckon it's deserved criticism. Chelsea fans shouldn't be immune to criticism; I criticised Villa fans who gave McLeish short thrift even if I saw why they were doing it, so I'm hardly being biased.

Do we own it? No. Did we come up with it? Pretty much, in this case. It's not the action that necessarily annoyed me, it's the fact that Chelsea fans crassly devalued something that was special to us, and to something that's incredibly trivial by comparison to a well-loved footballer and family man fighting for his life. So don't talk to me about making a mountain out of a molehill before you understand how important this is to Villa fans. One of our family (and AVFC is a family; perhaps is not the same of Chelsea?) is very sick, and you're devaluing our symbolic support to him by just deciding to replicate it in support of something that's incredibly unimportant by comparison.
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And i will criticise the Chelsea fans when there is something worthy of criticism but this is not it. Very pathetic and petty from yourself and i am quite surprised actually.
 
Getting upset about another team clapping is pretty ridiculous. Pretty sure Villa didn't 'invent' clapping and cheering at a certain minute. Get over it.

Also finding it funny that people, especially Liverpool fans, telling the Chelsea fans how they should act and react to the new manager. Why do you care? Why does it even matter? Booing the manager isn't 'not supporting your team'. Cheering on the 16th minute for your old manager, who you didn't want to be sacked, is obviously aimed at the owner. Both are ways of showing discontent, and if fans didn't sing/clap/complain when they felt the owners have ****** up, then they aren't supporting the team, because that's when it shows that people/fans don't care.

Also, This quote made me laugh.

I mean you defend Terry, an alleged racist, sleeper of teammates wives etc, you hail him. Then someone who's made a few bad words to your team, you tell to f*ck off?
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Sounds.. just.. like.. someone.. else..

I mean you defend Suarez, an alleged racist, biter of opposition etc, you hail him. Then someone who's been racially abused by one of your team, you boo/abuse Evra?
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Derp.
 
JDY said:
It clearly is the action that has annoyed you seeing as you go on about how you came up with it in the previous sentence. If the Chelsea fans sung Di Matteo's name and applauded before the match and not a particular minute I doubt you'd care. It's a tad harsh calling the Chelsea fans 'knobheads' when most were probably unaware of Villa's campaign. You make it sound like they did it intentionally to hurt Villa and their fans, when they were just showing their respect for RDM, and probably making the atmosphere even more awkward for Rafa.
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The people who organised it used Villa's campaign as an inspiration. Whether it was intentional or not is not really the point.

I agree that it isn't an important issue, but there is no set rule of what can and can't be applauded. If it's so unimportant then you shouldn't let it devalue the support you show Petrov week in week out. There are plenty of other clubs who unite and show their respect in similar fashion. Portland Timbers sing 'You are my sunshine' and applaud every match during the 78th minute, in respect of the club mascot's daughter, who died in a car accident.
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That latter anecdote should show you how important this is, not just for Villa fans, but for fans all over the world. A minute's applause should be reserved for important situations; whether a written rule or not.

CJACKO11 said:
And i will criticise the Chelsea fans when there is something worthy of criticism but this is not it. Very pathetic and petty from yourself and i am quite surprised actually.
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I don't believe it's your place to tell me, a Villa fan, what I should and shouldn't criticise Chelsea fans for with regards to this situation.

Let me make it clear, I don't agree with booing of Benitez either. But that doesn't effect me or my club, and frankly I think Chelsea fans are just making a noose with which to hang themselves whenever they boo their manager in his first game in charge, so I don't particularly care, and thus I refrained from criticising Chelsea fans further. This is me reining in my criticism.

Alcaraz said:
Anyone else thinks reverting back to a 4-3-3 would be better for Chelsea? Ramires could recreate his midfield runner role from where he was so good under AVB. Oscar's defensive ablities are less likely to get exposed playing in a midfield 3 rather than a double pivot allowing him to move there and distribute the ball.

Not sure how its all going to work out but the way I see it, the thing we badly lack is a midfield distributer. Manchester City were easily stifling our defence to attack transitions by closing down Mata/Oscar who came deep to get the ball but as soon as they turned around to distribute, they lost it.
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Hmm... could work. It would mean Chelsea lose a bit of their beautiful transitions on the counter though.

EDIT: And, come to think of it, it would isolate Torres more, naturally. Dunno if it'd work quite well.
 
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GodCubed said:
Hmm... could work. It would mean Chelsea lose a bit of their beautiful transitions on the counter though.

EDIT: And, come to think of it, it would isolate Torres more, naturally. Dunno if it'd work quite well.
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And here I was thinking their is no possible way that Torres' performances could regress further....
 
Alcaraz said:
And here I was thinking their is no possible way that Torres' performances could regress further....
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Let's not get carried away here. Torres hasn't been playing great, but he's not Marlon Harewood.
 
Nick Chelsea said:
I missed the press-conference. Anything worth mentioning?
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just seen the highlight of it on SSN just saying he is looking to improve the defense which will in turn give stability with more possession and will create more chances and is looking to get the best from torres with the more chances created. couldn,t really say out else tbf needs a convincing win tomorrow
 
epic terrorist said:
just seen the highlight of it on SSN just saying he is looking to improve the defense which will in turn give stability with more possession and will create more chances and is looking to get the best from torres with the more chances created. couldn,t really say out else tbf needs a convincing win tomorrow
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CJACKO11 said:
Nothing much, just that Studge, JT and Lamps are still out.
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Any chance of Marin playing? I want to see the German Messi in action..
 
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