The Great San Marino Challenge & Discussion Thread

I tried with the Italian San Marino Side, A San Marino league club and International team but that was too much hassle. Once i get bored of my current game I am going to try again with just the San Marino league and wait until I get the National job. Try and build it up like boozemonster is doing with the cook islands. I am all for lower league management with no transfer budgets and hidden attributes

yeah I saw your thread and found it great (but using only sammarinese players for the club is just impossible, at least until 2050 I think), I left a message on your page :)

I feel exactly the same, to me FM is all about LLM. The risk is always losing interest when you eventually lead your club to top division status as the game becomes pretty "standard" there.

But with the double San Marino, at that point you're not even at the half of your journey...
 
just finished my first season, finished 2nd, and won in the play offs, but im in trouble financial wise ;s
 
well done lethra and don't worry too much about finances, you're supposed to struggle with money until serie A, just make sure you handle the wage budget wisely!
 
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Its going to be a long grind to get from B to A and even harder to improve the quality of regens you get with only one team, unless you become the Ajax or PSV of Italy/San Marino and continuously pump out quality players. Which is possible.

With the Cooks in my story I don't have a nice structured league system to get my club to the top, apart from winning the Club World Cup I'm about as far as I can go.
My plan is this... Pump all of the money I gain back into the club and basically become a youth academy... sell my players... and start the procedure again... improve, sell... improve, sell.

Good Luck with San Marino mate, it is possible, just time consuming.

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Forgot to ask...

Do players who play for the club get time towards being eligible for San Marino or Italy?
 
You know, the road from Serie C2 to Serie A football (and money) is long and hard but in the end you know you can get there (I know for sure (H) ) the huge question mark will be the quality of the regens even when you'll build top class facilities and academy. Only time will tell.

While I'm not counting on regens from sammarinese league (they'll always be rubbish I'm afraid) I was pleased to see that serie A giants Juventus produced a decent 16y old from San Marino, no wonderkid but already the best midfielder in our country. Plus I saw someone posting a wonderkid regen from Lybia so there's some hope!

Good question on gaining nationality and the answer is... NONE! We're in san marino so no italian nationality, but apparently our country won't grant no passport to anybody ever. Which I think reflects reality, as IRL you need like 30 years to gain sammarinese nationality.
 
Life at Club - An Introduction to Serie C

This is not a guide or walkthrough to dominate serie C, because such things don't really exist in FM and even if they did you shouldn't follow them ;)

Nonetheless I happen to be some kind of Italian lower leagues veteran for my in-game experience with FM (I admit I'm awful at managing top clubs though) and because I have a little bit of actual knowledge of Italian football even at Lega Pro level (that is the current name of the division still known as serie C in FM). I had a tactic thread based on my previous success with Pro Patria, you can check it here if interested: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f103/kanderssons-4-2-3-1-lefty-won-in-style-italian-t54397.html

So there you are in the "Serenissima Repubblica di San Marino", you don't owe any taxes to the greedy Italian government and you're so close to Rimini's sea and night-life. Life is looking good indeed except you're still stuck in Serie C2 with a pedestrian squad (though predicted to finish 1st), a 4500 seats stadium, no corporate facilities and no youth academy.

The first thing you need to know about serie C (both 1&2) is that the level of football is unsurprisingly low and your team is no exception. Dumb as it may sound, the key here would be to heavily upgrade your squad by getting much better players than the average standard of the division. How smart uh? Ok wait a second...

This is why pre-season is in my opinion the most important part of the year for LLM. I litterally spent HOURS searching for the right players (and staff), both manually or using filters. Your transfer/wage budget isn't very inspiring, good news is there are many excellent free agents (lower league specialists, ex-serie B stars aging but still decent, former serie A prospects now in disgrace) more than willing to sign at the lowest level!

So my biggest suggestion is search search search! Will take time, but if you hadn't a fair amount of patience you wouldn't even start a San Marino challenge, right?

Some additional information and suggestions you may find helpful

- don't be afraid to shake things over and sign a whole bunch of new players. Let's face it the guys initially at the club are hopeless, and while the new signings will need some time to blend and gel together you'll eventually benefit from a revamped, much stronger squad. Same story goes when (if) you gain promotion.

- in Serie C you're not allowed to sign extra-EU players, but this doesn't mean you can't actually do any shopping in South America. Forget those hyped starlets from Brazil and Argentina, search around minor countries and (depending on your database) you may find some cheap gems equipped with that vital EU passport. Venezuela and Uruguay could be a nice place to start.

- players' morale is so important in FM, here's a way to keep your veterans happy: over-30 players (and you should have some) may express a desire to go into coaching/scouting after their playing career. Now and then (I suggest once a month) just tell them they could become good coach/scouts (or whatever they wish): they will be grateful and their morale will boost, or they will develop staff attributes straight away and if they're good enough you may have found a new player/coach.

- money is going to be an issue until you reach serie A, in the meantime you have to do with what you got and it isn't much. Tickets, tv, sponsorships, tranfers: generally none of these will really boost your finances while in serie C. Best I've found is arranging away friendlies against New Zealand clubs: when you reach serie B those NZ teams will pay you 200K euros (!) per game, but even in C their fresh cash should help you survive.

- chop the dead woods. You'll need every bit of your wage budget to put up a really competitive squad, so get rid of all your useless, ungifted players asap and free some valuable cap space. Sell, loan or terminate contracts: just get them outta here!

- interact with your board. Ask for more transfer/wage budget, more coaches, more scouts, more scouting areas, and do that as much as you can, all season long. You really need all that stuff, and usually the boardroom will end giving in your demands if you insist a bit.

Hope this helped newly appointed San Marino managers, season resumes coming next days stay tuned!
 
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Team: San Marino
Season: 2010/11
League: Serie C2/B
Final Position: 1st
Cups: Italian Cup lost 2-7 verses Atalanta in 2nd Qual. Rnd, Won Serie C Cup 4-3 on agg verses Como, Won C2 Super Cup
Average Attendance: 660
Biggest Win: 6-1 verses Chieti
Biggest Defeat: 2-7 verses Atalanta
Top Goalscorer: Norman Sylla 36
Most Assists: Norman Sylla 23
Highest Average Rating: Norman Sylla 7.94 (40 apps)
Fans Player of the Year: Norman Sylla
 
will could you post screenie of that guy sylla? looks great!
 
of course I screwed up, didn't start with san marinese players so I can't manage national team... :( now I have to start all over again
 
Team: San Marino
Season: 2010/11
League: Serie C2/B
Final Position: 1st
Cups: Italian Cup lost 2-7 verses Atalanta in 2nd Qual. Rnd, Won Serie C Cup 4-3 on agg verses Como, Won C2 Super Cup
Average Attendance: 660
Biggest Win: 6-1 verses Chieti
Biggest Defeat: 2-7 verses Atalanta
Top Goalscorer: Norman Sylla 36
Most Assists: Norman Sylla 23
Highest Average Rating: Norman Sylla 7.94 (40 apps)
Fans Player of the Year: Norman Sylla

wow, the serie C treble! great season Will, you put together a very good squad. Sylla's attributes don't look that impressive but he surely knows how to bang them in! Though I'm more impressed with your other striker Fabbiani, the guy is serie A quality (no surprise he's playing for Lazio in serie A in my 2013 season) and i'm sure his screen would really wow anyone!

San marino future seems in good hands, keep it up!

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of course I screwed up, didn't start with san marinese players so I can't manage national team... :( now I have to start all over again

I feel your pain man, maybe I should have pointed that out in the OP. Hope you hadn't gone too far in the season.

look at the positive, now you can tie Leo Aro with a longer contract at the start of the game... best of luck mate, and let me know how you're doing with your career.
 
my computer broke down and lost all my saves, so i lost mine, last season i played i finished 8th in serie b, and got a really awesome regen alrdy at age 16, 15+ finishing :p, but oh well, might start a save again and avoid getting into debt awswell :p
 
Now I can't sign Leo Aro, but I have great squad, even better than in first save... In first save I won the C cup and League and I am hoping to do this again
 
my computer broke down and lost all my saves, so i lost mine, last season i played i finished 8th in serie b, and got a really awesome regen alrdy at age 16, 15+ finishing :p, but oh well, might start a save again and avoid getting into debt awswell :p

what the ****, did the curse of San marino hit you and Monfils??? That's a shame as both of you were doing great.

Debts are cool, I gained financial stability only in 2013 :p. Your regen was a product of your academy? was he sammarinese???

again, best of luck!
 
Six games, six wins, goal difference 17-3, looks like I am going to dominant this year :)
 
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