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Are they yeah? Ta. Honestly, know little about them save for having a quick look at their season to date the weekend.
Although still a very good side, they certainly seemed to of dipped a lot in overall talent from the top side we faced the Europa final 2 years back. Kind of figured they'd be a lot stronger on their own patch but good to have it confirmed.
Second to last group game so hopefully if anything's still on the game, it'll just be to decide who finishes 1st or 2nd.
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Mad explanation from the Sevilla manager on his sending off.
I mean watching him speaking the press after, he seems a genuine, decent bloke. Just mad reasoning behind it as he honestly tried to explain it.
I mean watching him speaking the press after, he seems a genuine, decent bloke. Just mad reasoning behind it as he honestly tried to explain it.
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I can't criticize Klopp too much as I'm the same with subs in my dream team. Always leave players in that bit too long when they're not doing well!
They arent as good as the Sevilla side you faced in the EL, but I wouldn't want to go away to them needing to win tbh. But you have enough to beat the other two home and away.
lets see what thay have to say after tonight
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Boss feature from Premier League World ths week on Sky/ BT etc on the absolute phenomenal success of TAW the past 6 years or so that's just rewritten the book and blown every other fan content out of the water.
For Reds (and come to that any footie fan given the number of different fans/ club journo's/ players etc from around the Country across the divisions on various shows every week), not a better £5 a month for top class LFC content could you spend. Right from the heart of the City, for the City, with passionate, match going lads who don't B/S on anything. Good or bad. Because if you did, in this City, yer mates would soon skit yer to F , tell you straight and pull yers straight back down to Earth with a bang.
[video=youtube;E_OM15xMwAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=310&v=E_OM15xMwAQ[/video]
For Reds (and come to that any footie fan given the number of different fans/ club journo's/ players etc from around the Country across the divisions on various shows every week), not a better £5 a month for top class LFC content could you spend. Right from the heart of the City, for the City, with passionate, match going lads who don't B/S on anything. Good or bad. Because if you did, in this City, yer mates would soon skit yer to F , tell you straight and pull yers straight back down to Earth with a bang.
[video=youtube;E_OM15xMwAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=310&v=E_OM15xMwAQ[/video]
Say no more fam.
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Such a shame Heynkes left Bayern so quickly.
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Four straight home clean sheets the league. Which is now 7 in the last 10 league games period. And the fewest league goals conceded in a 38 game rolling spell for 4 years I believe ..... But all the pundits and reactionary sections of the fanbase don't want to talk about the positives with the steady improvement in our defensive record (by no means perfect and still a lot of work to be done but that can't be denied) and would rather go WAY over the top in criticism after last Saturday's City anomaly. A complete 'non-event' game in relation as soon as Sadio walked ( against the worst possible side in the league to be down to 10 against) to the game L'pool we're dominating in most every statistical aspect except the scoreline to that point.
Not unduly worried about Burnley this avvi. Yeah, they've picked up two excellent results in London thus far but their overall record on their travels since returning to the top flight is beyond woeful. And they're currently on a 9 game losing streak at Anfield in all competitions scoring just one and conceding 20.. Be very disappointed and no less surprised if that doesn't continue today.
Taking our chances and killing the game off was equally as big an issue as the brainfart's defensively Sevilla and needs to be rectified today. If for nothing else after last Saturday, we need to start turning the goal difference back into the positive. Currently a very dull, grey day. And Burnley doesn't exactly get the juices flowing. (not least when you've woken up feeling as sick as I have. Ugh!). But we need to play our part and get behind the Redmen from the off and not sit on our hands moaning and groaning as many sadly now do in run of the mill Anfield games. You pay enough for the experience. Enjoy it to the max. And the only thing stopping you doing that is you!
Respect Burnley. Work as hard as them. And our far better quality should win out all things being equal. 3-0.
Up the Rebound Reds!
Not unduly worried about Burnley this avvi. Yeah, they've picked up two excellent results in London thus far but their overall record on their travels since returning to the top flight is beyond woeful. And they're currently on a 9 game losing streak at Anfield in all competitions scoring just one and conceding 20.. Be very disappointed and no less surprised if that doesn't continue today.
Taking our chances and killing the game off was equally as big an issue as the brainfart's defensively Sevilla and needs to be rectified today. If for nothing else after last Saturday, we need to start turning the goal difference back into the positive. Currently a very dull, grey day. And Burnley doesn't exactly get the juices flowing. (not least when you've woken up feeling as sick as I have. Ugh!). But we need to play our part and get behind the Redmen from the off and not sit on our hands moaning and groaning as many sadly now do in run of the mill Anfield games. You pay enough for the experience. Enjoy it to the max. And the only thing stopping you doing that is you!
Respect Burnley. Work as hard as them. And our far better quality should win out all things being equal. 3-0.
Up the Rebound Reds!
This is the type of game Liverpool struggled in quite a few times last season; deep blocks, hard working, will look to take advantages of the large spaces in behind against the run of play, or capitalize from set pieces (decent height, with Brady's cracker of a left foot whipping them in) - let's see how it rolls. You'd expect a comfortable home victory, but you just never know.
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That's another thing flippantly thrown around without much research down to a handful of games/standout results. Mainly through the early part of the Calendar year dip.
People, no less lazy pundits, should check out our record against the bottom half the league last year.
The few times you dropped points against lower opposition, I felt like I was watching a replay of the previous time. Dip in form or not, there were definitely similar patterns in the games you lot dropped points against the smaller sides. PatrickLFC & a couple others saw it too. Off the top of my head, Burnley (funnily enough) and Hull felt identical? There were other dropped points too, just cba checking.
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Nobody CBA checking. Made worse when it's just flat out lazy punditry that the general footie fan bounces off.
It's easier to just brand this L'pool side with a problem breaking down the lesser teams.
It's easier to just brand this L'pool side with a problem breaking down the lesser teams.
Ok you had no issues breaking down deep blocks last season & no concentration issues defensively against them. No issues set-pieces wise either. Anything that criticises Liverpool is lazy.
These reds mean business. Have a good day
These reds mean business. Have a good day
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LOL. Seriously? You resort to a schoolyard, pathetic retort like that when you've no answer than to flippantly throw the standard line? And extrapolate it to L'pool having no problems because someone challenges you on it? How old are we here? 5?
Seriously lad, get a grip. But hey, just for you, I'll go compare the results that you 'CBA' doing.
Seriously lad, get a grip. But hey, just for you, I'll go compare the results that you 'CBA' doing.
No, it's just like debating with a brick wall when it comes to Liverpool with you. You can debate any other team/league/player/topic barring Liverpool or United with you and you offer good insight, but when it comes to either of these teams, you have massive red blinkers.
Do you honestly not think that small teams realize their best bet to get a positive result against you lot is to come and sit deep, smother the space between the lines, and wait to pounce on the large spaces left by your backline? This and targeting your set piece frailty.
Burnley did it, Hull did it, Southampton done it on a few occasions, etc.
This isn't some media agenda against Liverpool, it's facts
Do you honestly not think that small teams realize their best bet to get a positive result against you lot is to come and sit deep, smother the space between the lines, and wait to pounce on the large spaces left by your backline? This and targeting your set piece frailty.
Burnley did it, Hull did it, Southampton done it on a few occasions, etc.
This isn't some media agenda against Liverpool, it's facts
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No, mores the point as regularly happens you just don't like anything in the positive about Liverpool that ruins whatever lame argument you want to run with. (The recent throwaway jibes 'That all players want to play for Klopp' a prime example. Completely ignoring those that actually outright say it and get mentioned as such to then extrapolating it to everyone!). It's tiresome and very noticeable from you of late. But in your own thread, you let any B/S slide from anyone.
But for the record, Liverpool's record against the bottom 11 sides in the PL last year:
P 22 W 15 D 2 L 5 F 53 A 25
Not sure how they scored 53 times being as they can't break down the lesser sides, and comfortably coped with some of the worst low block/ aerial threat sides like West Brom and Stoke in doing the double over them but yer know? Don't let the facts gert in the way of a good, if wholly misguided, rant.
The splits on that were:-
Home: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2 F 33 A 12
Away: P 11 W 7 D 1 L 3 F 20 A 13
What people, yourself included as you've already mentioned, remember the most, aside from the TV pundits ramming it down their throats, is 4 of those 7 draws/ loses coming when everything went to **** January and February through various reasons. Not least multiple key injuries hitting and everything rolling from there. Starting January 2 when we drew at Sunderland 2-2 (with a free kick that never was for the equaliser but we'll let that slide) coming less than 24 hours after we played City. Having to put virtually the same side out again at Sunderland as we had little else. That started the mid-season slump. Which then encompassed a 2-3 home reverse against Swansea (who they beat away earlier the year)/ 0-2 reverse at Hull (who they'd walloped 5 at home), and the 1-3 loss at Leicester, off the bounce of City's change of manager to add to the slump, before February was out. (Who, again, they'd walloped 4 in the reverse fixture.).
Those results and performances, whilst no question horrible, where the anomaly's to the rest of the season against those sides outside of four outliers. And they all came through a horrid time on the pitch through the two-month period that cost the season. (Which we can disect if you like as to why but that was done to death the early months of this calendar year.).
The outliers were:-
Losing 2-0 at Burnley 2 games into the season. (Beat them 2-1 the reverse fixture.). A real strange game of football as Liverpool completely dominated. Couldn't score. And 2 defensive mistakes from the only 2 chances Burnley had cost them.
Drawing 2-2 with West Ham at home December. Loris Karius. The final straw before he was hooked. No more needs adding.
Losing 1-2 at home to Palace in April. Shocking, flat, non-performance that got the result it deserved. No denying anything there.
And the 3-4 loss at Bournemouth. Again, another bizarre game of football. Liverpool 3-1 up and having enough chances to win 5 games of football. Then step forward Loris Karius again, along with other individual errors, and 75 minutes perfect away performance turned to **** the last 15 that is all anyone remembers and regularly throws up. Whilst completely negating what went before up until 75.
So no, it's not 'facts.' We no more struggle against the lesser sides than anyone else.
If you want to chat ****, and even worse stand pat when you're pulled on it because you 'CBA' to actually look in depth to what your arguing, go do it with someone who doesn't watch his team up close most every frigging week and knows the actual truth without trying to sell everyone on the laziness thrown out the media who don't like the actual telling of the season getting in the way of their narrative.
If you want to flat out legit critique this side, sound. I do more than my share in here on a regular basis. Arguably far more than any regular poster on any of their own teams. (Which you conveniently ignore when it suits.). But make sure you know what the heck your chatting and have it backed up to how it actually went down.
But for the record, Liverpool's record against the bottom 11 sides in the PL last year:
P 22 W 15 D 2 L 5 F 53 A 25
Not sure how they scored 53 times being as they can't break down the lesser sides, and comfortably coped with some of the worst low block/ aerial threat sides like West Brom and Stoke in doing the double over them but yer know? Don't let the facts gert in the way of a good, if wholly misguided, rant.
The splits on that were:-
Home: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2 F 33 A 12
Away: P 11 W 7 D 1 L 3 F 20 A 13
What people, yourself included as you've already mentioned, remember the most, aside from the TV pundits ramming it down their throats, is 4 of those 7 draws/ loses coming when everything went to **** January and February through various reasons. Not least multiple key injuries hitting and everything rolling from there. Starting January 2 when we drew at Sunderland 2-2 (with a free kick that never was for the equaliser but we'll let that slide) coming less than 24 hours after we played City. Having to put virtually the same side out again at Sunderland as we had little else. That started the mid-season slump. Which then encompassed a 2-3 home reverse against Swansea (who they beat away earlier the year)/ 0-2 reverse at Hull (who they'd walloped 5 at home), and the 1-3 loss at Leicester, off the bounce of City's change of manager to add to the slump, before February was out. (Who, again, they'd walloped 4 in the reverse fixture.).
Those results and performances, whilst no question horrible, where the anomaly's to the rest of the season against those sides outside of four outliers. And they all came through a horrid time on the pitch through the two-month period that cost the season. (Which we can disect if you like as to why but that was done to death the early months of this calendar year.).
The outliers were:-
Losing 2-0 at Burnley 2 games into the season. (Beat them 2-1 the reverse fixture.). A real strange game of football as Liverpool completely dominated. Couldn't score. And 2 defensive mistakes from the only 2 chances Burnley had cost them.
Drawing 2-2 with West Ham at home December. Loris Karius. The final straw before he was hooked. No more needs adding.
Losing 1-2 at home to Palace in April. Shocking, flat, non-performance that got the result it deserved. No denying anything there.
And the 3-4 loss at Bournemouth. Again, another bizarre game of football. Liverpool 3-1 up and having enough chances to win 5 games of football. Then step forward Loris Karius again, along with other individual errors, and 75 minutes perfect away performance turned to **** the last 15 that is all anyone remembers and regularly throws up. Whilst completely negating what went before up until 75.
So no, it's not 'facts.' We no more struggle against the lesser sides than anyone else.
If you want to chat ****, and even worse stand pat when you're pulled on it because you 'CBA' to actually look in depth to what your arguing, go do it with someone who doesn't watch his team up close most every frigging week and knows the actual truth without trying to sell everyone on the laziness thrown out the media who don't like the actual telling of the season getting in the way of their narrative.
If you want to flat out legit critique this side, sound. I do more than my share in here on a regular basis. Arguably far more than any regular poster on any of their own teams. (Which you conveniently ignore when it suits.). But make sure you know what the heck your chatting and have it backed up to how it actually went down.
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