The Liverpool Thread

[zzeezzy]

Understand dilakh's concern, Shaqiri is as far away as I can think of when it comes to the mentality needed to play under Klopp. Everything Klopp usually desires is everything Shaqiri hasn't shown for Stoke. He can produce quality, but it is few and far between. he is inconsistent, lazy, doesn't track back etc.

Hard to see how he fits the system under Klopp in any way but also when you have a player brought in who doesn't fit the mentality, that can rub off on other players as well.

Odd signing anyway, btw Scouse you can't compare it to Ox, has a much better mentality, struggled at Arsenal for consistency but that was not down to personality but more down to several positions and lack of game time.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

We’ve already added Fabinho and Keita d. No more two dominant midfielders the entire league their respective roles. With just the troublesome WC putting further additions on hold. That’s massively improved the midfield right there. Fakir would just top it off. We aren’t City backed by a whole freaking State. We can’t sign that and have that again sat on the bench. But to augment that with a quality talent for buttons I don’t particularly care for him but I can’t deny he’s a difference making talent we badly lack in depth) ..... I just don’t understand how anyone could be P with that? ****, he didn’t work out, you’ve lost nottin and get back what you paid for him and more.

You’re talking like this is the early days of FSG pre-Klopp man in referencing what you have previous which has as absolutely no relation in comparison. Rafa chose to fill his squad out with quantity over top quality. The furthest thing to what this man has and continues to do.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

If you honestly think we’d buy someone, who ever that happened to be, who didn’t have the right mentality or who wasn’t the right fit z you’ve not been paying attention to this manager and the recruitment his time here.

Same knock on Alex last summer. Not least on here. Attitude. Work rate. Inconsistent talent.

Nobody’s questioning him now.

 

[dilakh2]

Meh lets just agree to disagree mate. If he does sign he gets my full support but can a leopard change his spots we shall see.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

We’ve already added Fabinho and Keita d. No more two dominant midfielders the entire league their respective roles. With just the troublesome WC putting further additions on hold. That’s massively improved the midfield right there. Fakir would just top it off. We aren’t City backed by a whole freaking State. We can’t sign that and have that again sat on the bench. But to augment that with a quality talent for buttons I don’t particularly care for him but I can’t deny he’s a difference making talent we badly lack in depth) ..... I just don’t understand how anyone could be P with that? ****, he didn’t work out, you’ve lost nottin and get back what you paid for him and more.

You’re talking like this is the early days of FSG pre-Klopp man in referencing what you have previous which has as absolutely no relation in comparison. Rafa chose to fill his squad out with quantity over top quality. The furthest thing to what this man has and continues to do.

Dont you think it would be good to see them play in the league before making such a big claim and Fabinho and Naby!?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Nah. Quite confident to say that. Keita’s a unique talent.

And you yourself spent a good chunk of last summer telling us how boss the Brazilian was when you thought he was Utd bound so he must be a top player right?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Sky can do one for Palace on a Monday night if that’s announced as expected today.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Nah. Quite confident to say that. Keita’s a unique talent.

And you yourself spent a good chunk of last summer telling us how boss the Brazilian was when you thought he was Utd bound so he must be a top player right?

Difference between saying he is a good player. And claiming he will be the best in the league

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Geez mate you have 16-year-old bits of kids as World Class on a regular basis the United thread so let’s cut the condescension hey?

 

[Mike.]

Fabinho is a very good, multi functional player, who didn't have a very good last season and it cost him his World Cup place, though I'm sure he'll bounce back to his normal levels of quality. To say he's one of the most dominant midfielders in the league, when he hasn't played, is errant nonsense, especially when he wasn't even the most dominant in his position in Ligue 1.

Keita is a brilliant talent, who again wasn't quite as good last season after losing his head after last summer. But at least he can put in a strong claim to be one of the more dominant midfielders in the Bundesliga. But to say that he is in the Premier League, without him actually playing in the Premiership, and coming up the likes of Kante, KBD, Pogba, Silva, Fernandinho, is also nonsense. He could be, and he's in a better position to lay down said claim than Fabinho. But right now he isn't, by virtue of never having kicked a ball in anger in the league.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Sun cracking the flags again. Reds relaxed and bevvying in gorgeous Chester. And a chance to see for the first time just how dominant a midfield duo L’pool have added as the team building moves on another level with the hugely anticipated big match this avvy .....

..... L’pool football is back! The first stepping stone to another season that will be one **** of a ride if it matches the awesome season and memories from last year. Let alone if they take the next step on the trajectory they’re on back to the top of the mountain.

NOW the summer football properly starts in earnest!

 

[dilakh2]

I assume you didnt watch the england game Scouse lol. If so howed my boy Harry Wilson play did he discard any thoughts of signing da Oompa Lompa in Klopps mind.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I assume you didnt watch the england game Scouse lol. If so howed my boy Harry Wilson play did he discard any thoughts of signing da Oompa Lompa in Klopps mind.

Interesting crowd dynamic Chester. The England scores announced were met with a mixture of cheers and ‘F England’ from most Reds in attendance. But yanno .....

Scored two the first half. Pretty ‘meh’ the rest of his play but first game and all that. Won 7. Good workout the heat. Particularly second half. Fabinho and Nabby on different sides each half but you can see the instant dominance they’ll have as a pair this league. Fabinho so cool the ball and tactiicaly savvy his half. Spraying it all over from a deep olaymaking role and hitting the post from the edge the box. Nabby was Nabby second half.nin-stop motor winning it all over the park. Only dent was a bad miss, which along with Milner doing the same could have had it pushing double figures. 2 up the half with the two Wilson goals. Origi as profligate as ever in front of goal. Moreno still utter wank. Milner added an early peno the second after Ojo was brought down after a boss through ball from Sturridge. Who score two belters himself. Such a shame he’s made of glass as his talent is up there with anyone as you know. Kent webbed in a 20 yarder and Ings added his name to the seven.

Great to see Clyne back at RB and Joe flipped back inside. That should be the status quo again now Clynes fit. Both stood out the first half. And nice to see Karius both get a great reception and do what he had to do without a hiccup.

Seven goals. No injuries. Two pretty strong sides working hard for 45 minutes eqch. Good extended training exercise to round off the first week back.

Onto Tranmere Tuesday.

 

[ninjaskill]

Not sure if it will be of interest to you but a relative of mine is best mates with a Rangers player and has apparently been raving about Gerrard as a manager so far and thinks his training of the team etc. is all really good. Obviously means nothing if it doesn't translate into good results. Hoping that he can at least make the SPL somewhat competitive this year, made some good signings and some promising links to players who would do well I think. Them finishing third last year is a huge bonus for him as well as even if he finishes a distant second place from Celtic he can still point to managing Rangers to their best season since their relegations if he gets any heat over the season.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Good to read mate ta as I’ve no doubt they’ll be worked harder this pre-season than they ever have in their professional careers.

I caught that they’d played Bury the other night in front of 46 thousand. Mind blowing the size of Glasgow Rangers. BURY man! When you compare that to the current English Champions having empty’s no matter how stunning the football is it puts into perspective just what a boheamath Glasgow Rangers really are. Sadly, ala Celtic, so long as they’re mired in the SPL it will only ever be a parochial thing for the two.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Frustrating that the one WC Semi I really wanted to watch now clashes with the Reds next step at Tranmere. Sighs.

Oh well. Such is life. Who really wanted to watch France- Belgium anyway?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I assume you didnt watch the england game Scouse lol. If so howed my boy Harry Wilson play did he discard any thoughts of signing da Oompa Lompa in Klopps mind.

Nice to see he’s extended for another 5 years today but you really feel this is make or break for him he next few weeks. He HAS to make the American tour and impress and then who knows? Every chance he’d be a part of the 6 needed for the front 3 if he does as he’s met every other challenge he’s faced and passed it this far. But if he doesn’t and he gets loaned again, then I think he and his agent need to sit down with Liverpool and look for an amicable parting. He needs stabliity to finally start his career at 21. Another loans pointless. Either he’s got what it takes to separate himself and stick the very top level or he hasn’t.

Same me again tonight H. Keep comtributing what you do. Goals and assists. Get the American tour and tear up the better opposition out there. Rooting for yer mate.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Ok. Mainly looking for Karius to slowly continue restoring people’s lost faith in him by just being solid again his half tonight. Along with Clyne continuing to restablish himself at RB and likewise Joe the middle. Be real nice to see Divock score too to get his confidence up. Still think there’s a real player in there that can contribute here but he needs to get that confidence back sooner rather than later. H to continue laying down his marker for a squad place this coming season. And Lallana to start putting his injuries behind him. Going to need all the quality bodies we can early this year with the WC messing things up for all the big clubs.

Godsend we’ve got Naby and Fabinho training from the get-go. Gives us a massive advantage over rivals who are stuck with there key midfielders missing pre-season made worse with the stupidity of the early start to next season.

*Edit* Talking of, Naby and Fabinho in the same team for the first time. Nice bonus.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

L'pool 3 up half time. With the usual caveat of pre-season friendly/ league two side, that was an excellent work out that the first half team maximised to the fullest. Lovely football. Hard work. And some strong tattles.

Ojo the star the half. Goal and assist for Rafa Camacho. Lallana back captaining and looking good with a goal. Put himself about a fair bit physically too which is nice to see being he's getting the 'injury prone' tag. Fabinho is just an elegant ******* to watch on and off the ball. Both ends the park. And Ward made a great stop Tranmere's only chance. Solanke missed a couple of sitters. Early summer rust? Impressive from the first half team.

And I LOVE the purple strip. Not normally one for kits but that looks dead sharp with the orange.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Finished 3-2 to the Reds. Much less intense half the second half team than the first under pinned by two horrible mistakes. The first from the worst possible man .....

Pluses: Clyne again looking like the pre-injury Clyne. Great to have him back. Joe solid again back at centre half. Wilson and Woodburn did their claims no harm. The latter looking very tidy in a deep lying playmaker role. And Danny looking as silky as ever. But I refuse to get excited there as we know he’s made of glass sadly. And the first decent offer from a club that fits for him he’ll be gone anyways.

And the bad was BAD .....

Karius. Sighs. Just what he didn’t need. Poor distribution straight to them. And then he goes and spills a simple free kick straight to the Tranie forward for a tap in. The very LAST thing he needed after Kiev. Lads confidence, naturally, looks shot. I just don’t see any way he can start the season with any degree of confidence in him. Alisson needs boxing off ASAP. And Chirivella, filling in at CH again , played the ball straight to their forward for a sloppy second.

Mixed but good extended training work-out all things considered.

Onto Bury Sat’day for the next step up. Really like the balance L’pool have got here the last few years between helping out the local clubs with the early domestic friendles and then earning the big bucks abroad. Gives the young fans a chance to see us locally too live. Throw in giving all the gate receipts to Chester last Sat’day and the club are doing these right.