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Scouseinthehouse said:
So I really don't know how I feel about tonight's game?

I was really looking forward to it. Leeds are, IMHO, the best-coached team in the PL outside of ourselves and City. I personally rank Bielsa up there just behind Jürgen and Guardiola. If Leeds had the finances for better quality, he'd have them a lot higher in the table iMHO. Or, put another way, I firmly believe if he was in charge of Chelsea or Utd, we'd have more than City to worry about for the league next season. Phenomenal coach/ teacher/ tactician who's learned as he's gone this season and has tweaked his style slightly to now be more pragmatic than when we had the opening day barnstormer 4-3. It was all set to be, with both sides well-rested and prepared, a purist's wet dream of pure football with an insane energy/ workload. (Side note- Remember all the 'expert' pundits chatting utter wham on Leeds not having the legs to do in the PL what they consistently did over 46 games? Yeah, that aged well .....🤦🏼‍♂️.).

Now, after the last 24-hours events, I'm just totally 'meh' as to the game as you don't know for certain what the top 4 or anything else now means?

I know I'll need to find a stream as I can't be doing with Sky/ Tyler/ Carragher/Neville's overt hypocrisy of something they've ALL played a part in enabling the past three decades. More faces than a town hall clock the lot of those clickbait gob______. Sky trying to claim to care about fans is like dogs saying they like cats. Utter, insulting nonsense to every last fan out there. (And cats.).

I guess I'm just now feeling like the majority of other games in this absolute farce of a season that's been the furthest thing from 'proper football' imaginable. Just 'meh' and watching out of force of habit.

Hopefully, that improves over the next few hours but as of now, the ESL has just taken the gloss completely off one of English football's best rivalries.
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Yeah it’s hard to get excited about any game right this min!
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
So I really don't know how I feel about tonight's game?

I was really looking forward to it. Leeds are, IMHO, the best-coached team in the PL outside of ourselves and City. I personally rank Bielsa up there just behind Jürgen and Guardiola. If Leeds had the finances for better quality, he'd have them a lot higher in the table iMHO. Or, put another way, I firmly believe if he was in charge of Chelsea or Utd, we'd have more than City to worry about for the league next season. Phenomenal coach/ teacher/ tactician who's learned as he's gone this season and has tweaked his style slightly to now be more pragmatic than when we had the opening day barnstormer 4-3. It was all set to be, with both sides well-rested and prepared, a purist's wet dream of pure football with an insane energy/ workload. (Side note- Remember all the 'expert' pundits chatting utter wham on Leeds not having the legs to do in the PL what they consistently did over 46 games? Yeah, that aged well .....🤦🏼‍♂️.).
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Shame the moment this happened yeah. But it would be bad anytime it happens. Hard to enjoy the game today, I am not born there and with this footy culture, but all this has been draining a lot today.

Bielsa does amazing job, but he would never suit those clubs purely from owner and culture to move fast from manager to manager and not give him way to plan his philosophy in the club.
I think our lads still we be going out there to give them all and maybe even more to prove this elitism is bullshit. Definetly some of your players will be even less motivated for todays game and it has impact on Klopp also. Even Bielsa could be demotivated as thinking what the owner will plan and thinks about these things. Sure he does not give zero fuu about politics etc, but this football culture and heritage we are talking about here. If Radz is also in for this kind of thing then Bielsa will be gone for sure.

Hope the match will be fast, enjoyable and take our mind this wrecking stuff.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1384205170263793665

Ok. Time to park the nonsense for 90 mins and try win a crucial game of togger in the race for top 4.

90 mins non-stop hard graft Redmen and our superior quality should win out.

Without that you'll get nottin' from a Leeds side who quit until the final whistle goes.

Straight into these Reds! Let's give Milly a perfect return home!
 
Opinions lads.
This is from an Irish sports website in 2017.
Will/Should Klopp hand in his resignation if Liverpool push ahead alongside the other money grabbing cnuts?

Liverpool managers nowadays are burdened by a number of things - smaller resources than their rivals, the vaulting expectations of supporters, and Alberto Moreno - and must also try and operate in the shadow of the statue outside Anfield.
It is widely accepted that Shankly built Liverpool, and did so by unabashedly appealing to the city's working-class roots, given he was hewn of the similar culture of Scotland. He was unambiguous on his politics:
"The socialism I believe in isn’t really politics. It is a way of living. It is humanity. I believe the only way to live and to be truly successful is by collective effort, with everyone working for each other, everyone helping each other, and everyone having a share of the rewards at the end of the day. That might be asking a lot, but it’s the way I see football and the way I see life."
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His pronouncements on football were consistent with his political beliefs, and was always keen to stress that his players' responsibility was to the paying crowd, never demurring from his belief that they were playing football for the gaiety of the working class. His political beliefs would fuse with his rhetoric on football, too: "Chairman Mao has never seen a greater show of red strength" was how Shankly summed up one victory.
While Jurgen Klopp may not match Shankly's on-field success, it appears that he is politically consistent with the most legendary of his successors.

Rafa Honigstein has a new biography of Klopp out, and sections of it appear in the Liverpool Echo today. Most interesting is the section exploring Klopp's politics:
"I'm on the left, of course. More left than middle. I believe in the welfare state. I'm not privately insured. I would never vote for a party because they promised to lower the top tax rate. My political understanding is this: if I am doing well, I want others to do well, too. If there's something I will never do in my life it is vote for the right."
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@Anthony

He's contracted until 2024 at least. He's never walked out on one yet.

I certainly don't expect him to now.

Klopp is the very LAST of any concerns going forward.
 
Excellent, dominating half Redmen from a superb game of football as you'd expect from these two played at a ridiculous pace. Just lacked a second goal.

Thoroughly deserved lead through a horrendous Meslier/ Harrison mistake. Superb assist from Trent. Although a shocking Bamford miss from a terrible Fabinho mistake of our own reminds you of the constant threat Leeds non-stop effort brings.

Thoroughly enjoyable night thus far.

45 mins more hard graft boys. Bossing this.

Keep working!
 
Ack. Frustrating but we’ll take a valuable point nonetheless.

Fair result from a really good game of football. Dominated the first half and could well have gone in more than 1 up. Leeds dominated the second and deserved their equaliser.

Really had to dig deep after legs went after 65/70. And aomewhat rode our luck. But the grit to hang in earned that after a turbulent 24-hours.

Can’t wait to do it all again at a packed and rocking Elland Road next season.

Over toChelsea and hopefullyLallana’s boys doing us a favour tomorrow night. The top 4 battle will go right to the wire.

Up the ‘Pool. Mighty Reds!
 
I dont understand Klopps word against the shirts we left them in the locker. It was not joke but offer to stand together. I understand not wanting to **** off that much the owners but blatanlty say that we where laughing at them is mindblowing. It is time to stand all teams together as players, staff and community. Both Leeds and Liverpool fans where standing together, some holding the same poster.

Jürgen Klopp was asked for his thoughts on the shirts in his pre-match interview, although the Liverpool manager appeared to misinterpret their meaning slightly. “I heard that there are warm-up shirts,” Klopp said. “We will not wear them, we cannot.

“And if somebody thinks they have to remind us that you have to earn it to go to the Champions League then it’s a joke, a real joke, and it makes me angry. They have put them in our dressing room. If it was Leeds’ idea, thank you very much. Nobody needs to remind us. Maybe they should remind themselves.”
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It is shame that players and managers of those SL clubs are thrown under the bus. Zero communication from owners and then u have to go play ball isntanlty. They are in front of the media and fans constantly and will get the harassment.
 
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