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I am willing to bet that all those that have slated him have never stepped foot inside a football stadium let alone Anfield. just sit behind a TV or computer screen watching Sky or an illegal stream pretending to be a pundit like Robbie Savage. The way the football fans are turning out is really pathetic nowadays.

That's a whole lot of suppositions and straw manning when they are technically right. Glen Johnson ISN'T good enough for Liverpool.

I agree that they should probably shut up for now because the 'hurrdurr Johnson is ****' circlejerk is getting old, but not sure your comment that's essentially a microcosm of No True Liverpool Fan is any better than theirs.
 
So only stadium fans can have an opinion about a player or a team?

Yes, obviously, you need to pay for a ticket in order to call Glen Johnson ***** in person, rather than just shout it out into the void of Twitter!
 
Glad we managed to win that one. Lambert changed the game when he came on for me, was a lift to the team and we put in the odd cross which is exactly what led to the winning goal. Only disadvantage was I saw signs of our defending from last season still there. Hopefully Lovren will settle and Skrtel and Sakho will competitively fight for the other spot. Utterly shocked that we received the first yellow of the game.

Headache watching Allen. I still don't see anything in him.
 
I'm still sceptical it's the defensive personnel that's at fault with Liverpool's defending. I think it's a system problem stemming from Gerrard's lack of positional sense and defensive capabilities. It would explain why good centre-backs like Kolo, Agger, Skrtel, Sakho and perhaps now Lovren have all struggled.
 
That's a whole lot of suppositions and straw manning when they are technically right. Glen Johnson ISN'T good enough for Liverpool.

I agree that they should probably shut up for now because the 'hurrdurr Johnson is ****' circlejerk is getting old, but not sure your comment that's essentially a microcosm of No True Liverpool Fan is any better than theirs.

Oh my. Virtually every post you are against you use the term straw manning. How droll you become.

You like to take every thing anybody says on here out of context to prove what? You are better than someone else on an internet forum. Or maybe it's the different colour name that has gone to your head?

It was my opinion on what I thought. You might not agree with it but if thats the case please find some new terms to use.
 
Oh my. Virtually every post you are against you use the term straw manning. How droll you become.

You like to take every thing anybody says on here out of context to prove what? You are better than someone else on an internet forum. Or maybe it's the different colour name that has gone to your head?

It was my opinion on what I thought. You might not agree with it but if thats the case please find some new terms to use.

He hasn't taken anything out of context. Just provided a direct response to your pretty flawed argument. Yes the 'herd' mentality to blame Johnson for everything is getting old but the core idea that Johnson isn't good enough for Liverpool is still true. I don't see why fans have to enter a stadium to have an opinion on a player
 
Oh my. Virtually every post you are against you use the term straw manning. How droll you become.

You like to take every thing anybody says on here out of context to prove what? You are better than someone else on an internet forum. Or maybe it's the different colour name that has gone to your head?

It was my opinion on what I thought. You might not agree with it but if thats the case please find some new terms to use.

I agree with some of your points (not about GodCubed, although he is a **** :P ) but Johnson really isn't good enough.
 
I'm still sceptical it's the defensive personnel that's at fault with Liverpool's defending. I think it's a system problem stemming from Gerrard's lack of positional sense and defensive capabilities. It would explain why good centre-backs like Kolo, Agger, Skrtel, Sakho and perhaps now Lovren have all struggled.

When you play both Lucas and Gerrard as defensive midfielders, you have to expect runners through midfield - that pairing just doesn't work. Still amazed Rodgers went back to it for some strange reason
 
Oh my. Virtually every post you are against you use the term straw manning. How droll you become.

You like to take every thing anybody says on here out of context to prove what? You are better than someone else on an internet forum. Or maybe it's the different colour name that has gone to your head?

It was my opinion on what I thought. You might not agree with it but if thats the case please find some new terms to use.

Is there an option to like this ten times over. So true.
 
I'm still sceptical it's the defensive personnel that's at fault with Liverpool's defending. I think it's a system problem stemming from Gerrard's lack of positional sense and defensive capabilities. It would explain why good centre-backs like Kolo, Agger, Skrtel, Sakho and perhaps now Lovren have all struggled.


Lovren played really well against Southampton. Some of his passes were top draw.
 
Oh my. Virtually every post you are against you use the term straw manning. How droll you become.

You like to take every thing anybody says on here out of context to prove what? You are better than someone else on an internet forum. Or maybe it's the different colour name that has gone to your head?

It was my opinion on what I thought. You might not agree with it but if thats the case please find some new terms to use.

I'm droll?! Thank you! As for the term 'straw man', well, yes, plenty of fans in general use straw man arguments, therefore I break it out quite a lot. If you know what it means then there shouldn't be a problem, no?

Not sure I've taken anything out of context. I don't care about who thinks who is better on an internet forum. All I did was point out that it's very 'No True Scotsman' to exclude those who can't make it to Anfield, and thus their opinions too.

Red names mean pretty much nothing on this forum, so I dunno why it would go to my head. :P

I agree with some of your points (not about GodCubed, although he is a **** :P ) but Johnson really isn't good enough.

Love you too babes (K)

When you play both Lucas and Gerrard as defensive midfielders, you have to expect runners through midfield - that pairing just doesn't work. Still amazed Rodgers went back to it for some strange reason

It's an interesting point. Rodgers doesn't like using Lucas in the role he's best at, the sideline to sideline single defensive midfielder, because he feels - and I think I agree with him - that Gerrard's better qualities on the ball contribute much more to Liverpool's best method of attack, on the counter. It's probably the single biggest debateable issue with Liverpool now. Should Lucas be used deeper of Gerrard to provide stability and cover for a defence that individually is pretty good? Or should he be left out in order to maximise Liverpool's strengths?

The answer, I reckon, probably lies somewhere in the middle as per usual. Gerrard deep against smaller teams would work well, whereas Lucas against bigger ones would give you more solidity. On the other hand, smaller teams are less likely to throw players forward against you, which means that counterattacking is less useful, and thus Gerrard's extra quality on the ball is less handy too. In the same vein, bigger teams are more likely to attack in numbers, making effective counters more important, which means that Lucas' inclusion could really harm the team's biggest strength. It's all a tradeoff.

Lovren played really well against Southampton. Some of his passes were top draw.

He looked okay. I'll grant you his passing was excellent.
 
Tony Barrett has insisted Liverpool got the full 75million. Although it doesn't really matter now, Real Madrid and Barcelona are the two clubs i wouldn't trust when it comes to honesty in transfer fee's

It was confirmed by Barca, not sure how anyone can can take journo word over their official statement. Also Neymar's was completely different.
 
It was confirmed by Barca, not sure how anyone can can take journo word over their official statement. Also Neymar's was completely different.

Like i said it doesn't really matter now, but i know who i would trust more
 
Why are United fans so keen on knowing the price we got for Suarez? Obsessed with us :)
 
Why are United fans so keen on knowing the price we got for Suarez? Obsessed with us :)

I think Madrid paid around 75 for Ronaldo so maybe they want to prove they got more money? I don't know. They talk and sing a lot about us. Especially when we're not actually playing them.
 
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