The Liverpool Thread

[ajt09]

Tbh the dumbest thing Chelsea did was loan out Lukaku to us-if they actually played him things may have been different.

Still-their loss was our gain

 

[LFCMarshall]

If that Villa side get anything from the game tonight i will be absolutely amazed... Pretty poor side and as you would expect very defensive

#AVFC XI to face Man City: Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker, Bertrand, Westwood, Delph, El Ahmadi, Weimann, Bowery

 

[Tezzz]

Tbh the dumbest thing Chelsea did was loan out Lukaku to us-if they actually played him things may have been different.

Still-their loss was our gain

It was stupidity of it's finest. He holds up the ball well, has a lot of strength and is good in the air. Everything Chelsea have been this season.

But it is Mourinho so he'll somehow be praised for it.

 

[TheFalse9]

Yeah and City were parking the bus every game right? Were they applauded? Oh wait ... More to the point though, why should Liverpool be applauded for playing 'good' (attacking football) and then a team like Chelsea be castigated for playing defensive and compact football? Both of them are equally difficult to implement as you found out to your cost against Palace therefore, both should be applauded if implement successfully. Unfortunately they are not

And then maybe one of the reasons you could play such breathtaking football was because your players only had to play one game a week and were always fresh. Next season will be telling to see if the Liverpool squad can maintain their standard of quality football. More often than not, you will need to grind out results and it's questionable whether Rodgers can do that

At the end of the day though, it's your precise aim of playing 'good' football that probably cost you the title in the end. You could have just sat back against Chelsea but instead decided to pummel them into the ground playing right into Mourinho's hand. Your arrogance that you could smash Palace for 6-7 goals came back and hurt you hilariously in the end. So celebrate all you wan that Liverpool is the only club that stayed true to the etho's of the game blah blah blah ... City will be the ones popping the champagne at the end because of their more pragmatic approach to the game

Please, just stop.

Tbh the dumbest thing Chelsea did was loan out Lukaku to us-if they actually played him things may have been different.

Still-their loss was our gain

No way, it's all part of Mourinho's masterplan. See, Mourinho knew Lukaku would score a double against Liverpool, making them drop points, and score two goals in two games against City, bringing their goal difference down. And since City don't play "difficult, pragmatic" defensive football, they're going to lose the title on the last day because Pellegrini sets up his side with too much attacking intent. Mourinho's just too ingenious for you muggles to understand, I suppose his mind games are working.

 

[GodCubed]

If that Villa side get anything from the game tonight i will be absolutely amazed... Pretty poor side and as you would expect very defensive

#AVFC XI to face Man City: Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker, Bertrand, Westwood, Delph, El Ahmadi, Weimann, Bowery

Be fair to Villa, pretty much everyone's injured. Of that lineup, Lowton's in poor form, Clark and Baker are playing horribly, the midfield's fine, Weimann's been bad all season but Bowery had a great game last time out. Doubt they'll take anything.

 

[Aannddyy]

Yeah and City were parking the bus every game right? Were they applauded? Oh wait ... More to the point though, why should Liverpool be applauded for playing 'good' (attacking football) and then a team like Chelsea be castigated for playing defensive and compact football? Both of them are equally difficult to implement as you found out to your cost against Palace therefore, both should be applauded if implement successfully. Unfortunately they are not

And then maybe one of the reasons you could play such breathtaking football was because your players only had to play one game a week and were always fresh. Next season will be telling to see if the Liverpool squad can maintain their standard of quality football. More often than not, you will need to grind out results and it's questionable whether Rodgers can do that

At the end of the day though, it's your precise aim of playing 'good' football that probably cost you the title in the end. You could have just sat back against Chelsea but instead decided to pummel them into the ground playing right into Mourinho's hand. Your arrogance that you could smash Palace for 6-7 goals came back and hurt you hilariously in the end. So celebrate all you wan that Liverpool is the only club that stayed true to the etho's of the game blah blah blah ... City will be the ones popping the champagne at the end because of their more pragmatic approach to the game

Looking at City's squad at the start of the season I would have expected them to have put this league to bed about 4 weeks ago.. Yet there's one game to go and they haven't even secured it when their only rival is last years 7th place, they have not had a special season. Chelsea probably would have been applauded for their defensive football had it actually got them anywhere.

Maybe those extra 10 games did help us out, no way of telling until next season so don't get too smug about it. Although it amuses me how people are saying not being in Europe is the reason we're doing so well, we haven't had Champions League football since 2009, why is it now suddenly a big deal?

I'm not defending the Chelsea and Palace results, you asked why Liverpool have had such positive media this year. Those two games were a shame but they have nothing to do with the way we've played this year as a whole.

I don't care if people want to belittle Liverpool and say how we've thrown it away, at least we got ourselves into that position, 7th to 2nd is still a good season in my opinion. It might help you all take your minds off how Arsenal, United, Chelsea & Spurs have had absolutely woeful years but we're the ones celebrating our return and I cannot wait to see us back in the Champions League, it's been too long.

 

[CJACKO11]

Tbh the dumbest thing Chelsea did was loan out Lukaku to us-if they actually played him things may have been different.

Still-their loss was our gain

It was stupidity of it's finest. He holds up the ball well, has a lot of strength and is good in the air. Everything Chelsea have been this season.

But it is Mourinho so he'll somehow be praised for it.

Again both of you are looking at the short term when for the first time in over 10 years everyone at Chelsea seem to be planning long term we get slated for doing so when we used to be slated for thinking short term! I sense double standards here? From day one Jose said "next season (2014/15) we will be ready" so we owe him to show us whether he was right.

The Lukaku loan i questioned at the time but when i thought about it i agreed with it and felt it was a win-win-win. Most of Lukaku's best performances at West Brom came when he was coming off the bench against fatigued defences so he had to learn how to effect games from minute 1. That meant starting week in week out and he would not have got that at Chelsea as we play so many games rotation would have hindered that.

 

[Alcaraz]

Looking at City's squad at the start of the season I would have expected them to have put this league to bed about 4 weeks ago.. Yet there's one game to go and they haven't even secured it when their only rival is last years 7th place, they have not had a special season. Chelsea probably would have been applauded for their defensive football had it actually got them anywhere.

Maybe those extra 10 games did help us out, no way of telling until next season so don't get too smug about it. Although it amuses me how people are saying not being in Europe is the reason we're doing so well, we haven't had Champions League football since 2009, why is it now suddenly a big deal?

I'm not defending the Chelsea and Palace results, you asked why Liverpool have had such positive media this year. Those two games were a shame but they have nothing to do with the way we've played this year as a whole.

I don't care if people want to belittle Liverpool and say how we've thrown it away, at least we got ourselves into that position, 7th to 2nd is still a good season in my opinion. It might help you all take your minds off how Arsenal, United, Chelsea & Spurs have had absolutely woeful years but we're the ones celebrating our return and I cannot wait to see us back in the Champions League, it's been too long.

1. So if Chelsea would have been applauded for the defensive football had it actually got them anywhere as you claim ... Why are Liverpool being applauded for their attacking football when it hasn't gotten them anywhere either? Contradicting yourself I see. Plus the whole idea that City should have secured the title earlier is completely irrelevant. You asserted that Livepool is the ONLY pl club that deserves recognition for the football they play, yet city play the same type of football and don't get nearly enough credit as you do. Secondly, I emphasize again that if both compact defensive football and attacking football are equally hard to play, then why is one applauded by the other demonized?

2. Yeah the fact that you had no CL for the past few seasons and still suffered in the league shows how **** you were. Congratulations on lifting yourself out of mediocrity I suppose?

3. Yeah it's a good season for you lot. No one actually denied that. I just love how the smug levels on this thread have fallen so drastically after the last 2 EPL games. The best part would be that it was Gerrards slip that will cost Liverpool the title in the end. Make us dream! YNWA!!!

 

[Alcaraz]

Please, just stop.


No way, it's all part of Mourinho's masterplan. See, Mourinho knew Lukaku would score a double against Liverpool, making them drop points, and score two goals in two games against City, bringing their goal difference down. And since City don't play "difficult, pragmatic" defensive football, they're going to lose the title on the last day because Pellegrini sets up his side with too much attacking intent. Mourinho's just too ingenious for you muggles to understand, I suppose his mind games are working.

LOLOLOL ... This has got the best post I have seen. First you tell me to stop and then you return the jibes. YNWA!

 

[CJACKO11]

I take massive issue with the "anti football" part LFCMarshall. Pretty sure we had the 11 men and used our feet too, there are many ways to play a game of football its one of the reasons why this game is so popular.

 

[Tyton]

If insecurity of fans could win trophies, you two alone would secure treble for Chelsea.

1. So if Chelsea would have been applauded for the defensive football had it actually got them anywhere as you claim ... Why are Liverpool being applauded for their attacking football when it hasn't gotten them anywhere either?

It got them above you in the league, last time I checked.

 

[Alcaraz]

It got them above you in the league, last time I checked.

*Claps*

 

[Alcaraz]

I take massive issue with the "anti football" part LFCMarshall. Pretty sure we had the 11 men and used our feet too, there are many ways to play a game of football its one of the reasons why this game is so popular.

Not to mention that such sentiments are inherently present when Aaaaaandyyy comes out and says that Liverpool are the only EPL side that deserve recognition for playing 'good' football. At the end of the day, neither side will win the league because City always ensured a combination of both attacking football and pragmatism. Then again, they had a wonderful squad as well

 

[Sherkey]

There is no 'good' football as such. It doesn't matter whether you play full blown defensive, full blown attacking or a combination of the two. That's the ****** beauty of football, there are different styles, types and tactics of playing. There is what is pleasing to the neutrals, but that doesn't make any style of football frickin' good or not good. I'm constantly annoyed by the usage of terms 'anti-football' and 'good football' - Where the **** is it mentioned what exactly is good football?

You want to call anything anti-football? It would be disgraceful fouls (WC finals anyone?), intimidating the referee (every ****** team), racism **** (Suarez, Terry?), inherently injuring people (biting ears?).. That is anti football. Calling any style of football in a similar line is utter **** and idiocy.

 

[MANUMAD]

There is no 'good' football as such. It doesn't matter whether you play full blown defensive, full blown attacking or a combination of the two. That's the ****** beauty of football, there are different styles, types and tactics of playing. There is what is pleasing to the neutrals, but that doesn't make any style of football frickin' good or not good. I'm constantly annoyed by the usage of terms 'anti-football' and 'good football' - Where the **** is it mentioned what exactly is good football?

You want to call anything anti-football? It would be disgraceful fouls (WC finals anyone?), intimidating the referee (every ****** team), racism **** (Suarez, Terry?), inherently injuring people (biting ears?).. That is anti football. Calling any style of football in a similar line is utter **** and idiocy.

I agree. But have you noticed that Suarez qualifies for at least 75 per cent of what YOU would call anti football?!

 

[Sherkey]

I agree. But have you noticed that Suarez qualifies for at least 75 per cent of what YOU would call anti football?!

Yeah, I realise that xD but only in the recent past. There have been lots of incidents, some involving even us (I'm a hardcore United fan, to make it clear >_>), but anyhow.. Suarez looks to have improved on that aspect of his game this year.. Still falls down at the drop of a hat, but otherwise, he seems to be focussing more on football now.. Anyhow, Robben seems to be a serial offender for diving atm, compared to Suarez >_>

 

[TheFalse9]

I agree. But have you noticed that Suarez qualifies for at least 75 per cent of what YOU would call anti football?!

He's also one of the best footballers on the planet, so I think he contributes more to 'football' than 'anti-football'. Ashley Young on the other hand, well...that's a different story.

 

[Sherkey]

He's also one of the best footballers on the planet, so I think he contributes more to 'football' than 'anti-football'. Ashley Young on the other hand, well...that's a different story.

Serial Diving? Yeah, Ashley Young is just as guilty on that count >_> Suarez still dives too, as do too many players, sadly. But then again, that's what makes us appreciate a player who prefers to stay on his feet and try, inpite of a foul or otherwise. But it's only this season that Suarez has focussed more on football.. Last season and the like, there was less of football, and more of **** from him.

 

[TheFalse9]

Serial Diving? Yeah, Ashley Young is just as guilty on that count >_> Suarez still dives too, as do too many players, sadly. But then again, that's what makes us appreciate a player who prefers to stay on his feet and try, inpite of a foul or otherwise. But it's only this season that Suarez has focussed more on football.. Last season and the like, there was less of football, and more of **** from him.

Yeah, although Suarez has gone down less easily this season, he's still been guilty of diving a number of times. But it's pretty much the same with many players now - Hazard and Young also do it, just off the top of my head.

 

[Alcaraz]

There is no 'good' football as such. It doesn't matter whether you play full blown defensive, full blown attacking or a combination of the two. That's the ****** beauty of football, there are different styles, types and tactics of playing. There is what is pleasing to the neutrals, but that doesn't make any style of football frickin' good or not good. I'm constantly annoyed by the usage of terms 'anti-football' and 'good football' - Where the **** is it mentioned what exactly is good football?

You want to call anything anti-football? It would be disgraceful fouls (WC finals anyone?), intimidating the referee (every ****** team), racism **** (Suarez, Terry?), inherently injuring people (biting ears?).. That is anti football. Calling any style of football in a similar line is utter **** and idiocy.

This in a nutshell! Which is why the media fawning over Liverpool is frankly too much for me to bear