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What worry me the most is that the team lucks a game plan B in the last games.
 
What worry me the most is that the team lucks a game plan B in the last games.

tbh you never had a plan b last season

We have rarely had a plan B in the last 20 years.. We've never had the depth and quality throughout the squad for that to be an option

We rely heavily on our plan A working but that requires at least some sort of decent attacking options!
 
Congrats Brenda!

"When you've got the ball 65%, 70% of the time it's a football death for the other team. We're not at that stage yet, but that's what we'll get to, it's death by football" - Brendan Rodgers outlines his grand plan for Liverpool in September 2012, three months after joining the club.

Congratulations to Rodgers. Liverpool had 68.8% of the ball against Hull on Tuesday evening. "Death by football" indeed.
 
Rodgers' idea is there, but you cant run away from the fact it just isn't clicking right now. But there is a long line of people to point the finger at and he's only one of them, we just need next season to hurry up and see where we go from there, I've let him off this year because of last season, next season I think I will have a better judgement, if he's still around.
 
Rodgers' idea is there, but you cant run away from the fact it just isn't clicking right now. But there is a long line of people to point the finger at and he's only one of them, we just need next season to hurry up and see where we go from there, I've let him off this year because of last season, next season I think I will have a better judgement, if he's still around.

At least 60% of last season was because of bitey Suarez.
 
Its amazing how quickly things can change in football. Last season Brendan was the messiah and now it was all Suarez and a fluke. Earlier in the season he was a fraud yet just over a month ago we were the form team in Europe, yet alone the Premier League picking up the highest points-per-game average since christmas and he was again one of the better young managers in the game. And now? back to being a fraud a month later

I cant help but think how fickle fans are nowadays it is scary. A completely unexpected and fantastic 2nd place finish will only hinder Rodgers and ultimately end up losing him his job

Liverpool have been nothing more than an average team for the past 20 years and people forget that - Our average position the last 20 years? 5th place.

Last 10 years finishing positions in the league? (2nd, 7th, 8th, 6th, 7th, 2nd, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 5th) and those better finishes were because Man City are not the team they are today
 
Its amazing how quickly things can change in football. Last season Brendan was the messiah and now it was all Suarez and a fluke. Earlier in the season he was a fraud yet just over a month ago we were the form team in Europe, yet alone the Premier League picking up the highest points-per-game average since christmas and he was again one of the better young managers in the game. And now? back to being a fraud a month later

I cant help but think how fickle fans are nowadays it is scary. A completely unexpected and fantastic 2nd place finish will only hinder Rodgers and ultimately end up losing him his job

Liverpool have been nothing more than an average team for the past 20 years and people forget that - Our average position the last 20 years? 5th place.

Last 10 years finishing positions in the league? (2nd, 7th, 8th, 6th, 7th, 2nd, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 5th) and those better finishes were because Man City are not the team they are today

He's an astute manager who is ok tactically, and terrible in the market. He's not going to lose his job because you finished 2nd, but becaause ultimate after 3 years and a lot of money you have regressed more than can be allowed for even with the loss of Suarez, and there is a far superior manager in Klopp hanging about
 
This would not be nearly as bad if the transfers in the 2013-14 close season were not half as awful as some have been. Rickie Lambert and Mario "last resort" Balotelli are case in point.

As much as Rodgers is pragmatic and methodical in many ways, he is short-signed and inept in others for a job that demands to be at the very top. The climate at which Liverpool feel they should be doesn't suffer fools gladly. The margin for errors is minimal, quality players are at a critical paucity.

You need to act whenever you get the slightest opportunity. He's failed to show it countless times, and perhaps even a second opinion may not be enough. A change of voice altogether may be appropriate.
 
Its amazing how quickly things can change in football. Last season Brendan was the messiah and now it was all Suarez and a fluke. Earlier in the season he was a fraud yet just over a month ago we were the form team in Europe, yet alone the Premier League picking up the highest points-per-game average since christmas and he was again one of the better young managers in the game. And now? back to being a fraud a month later

I cant help but think how fickle fans are nowadays it is scary. A completely unexpected and fantastic 2nd place finish will only hinder Rodgers and ultimately end up losing him his job

Liverpool have been nothing more than an average team for the past 20 years and people forget that - Our average position the last 20 years? 5th place.

Last 10 years finishing positions in the league? (2nd, 7th, 8th, 6th, 7th, 2nd, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 5th) and those better finishes were because Man City are not the team they are today

too many short comings, which he isnt learning from. whats the point of sticking with him if he wont learn. like mike said theres a better manager hanging about who we must convince at all costs. if not then stick with rodgers but only if he is willing to have a DOF role, so he can be told to stick to a certain system and stop messing about with it.
 
apparently were favs to sign milner. good player imo would add steal to our weak midfield. only problem is his age, wages, signing on fee, agent fee etc... i would perhaps look elsewere.
 
Its amazing how quickly things can change in football. Last season Brendan was the messiah and now it was all Suarez and a fluke. I cant help but think how fickle fans are nowadays it is scary.

Messiah according to who? Most of people here have been always saying Rodgers is wank.

You're like the only person who keeps praising him all this time, so who are you accusing of being fickle?

3 years with **** all worth of progress equals sacking. The squad more of a mess than when he arrived, its time to cut your losses. Its not rocket science.
 
He's an astute manager who is ok tactically, and terrible in the market. He's not going to lose his job because you finished 2nd, but becaause ultimate after 3 years and a lot of money you have regressed more than can be allowed for even with the loss of Suarez, and there is a far superior manager in Klopp hanging about

He has made mistakes, no denying that - but the unrealistic expectations fans have had because of the second place finish is doing more harm than good

This would not be nearly as bad if the transfers in the 2013-14 close season were not half as awful as some have been. Rickie Lambert and Mario "last resort" Balotelli are case in point.

As much as Rodgers is pragmatic and methodical in many ways, he is short-signed and inept in others for a job that demands to be at the very top. The climate at which Liverpool feel they should be doesn't suffer fools gladly. The margin for errors is minimal, quality players are at a critical paucity.

You need to act whenever you get the slightest opportunity. He's failed to show it countless times, and perhaps even a second opinion may not be enough. A change of voice altogether may be appropriate.
I think we can dismiss the Lambert signing - for 4 million he was always going to be a low risk (financially) investment and at the time wasn't a bad signing on paper

The rest have been poor... Perhaps brought for the future and the supposed FSG way, but nonetheless poor for whatever reason

I for one am of the opinion sacking a manager who has not done a bad job in the slightest is madness


Messiah according to who? Most of people here have been always saying Rodgers is wank.

You're like the only person who keeps praising him all this time, so who are you accusing of being fickle?

3 years with **** all worth of progress equals sacking. The squad more of a mess than when he arrived, its time to cut your losses. Its not rocket science.

I'm sure if you just looked on this thread and the majority of the internet last season or even during our run in the middle of the season you'll see

I take it from that your understanding of fickle is different to mine? that doesn't make me fickle when i've kept the same opinion and not been swayed by up and downs?

The squad is more of a mess than when he arrived? don't make me laugh. 6th, 8th, 7th the finishes before Rodgers... at the moment he is looking at 7th, 2nd and 5th in an arguably harder league
 
It's the poor season and silly jibes that have done him more harm than good. He's made digs at United, Saints and Spurs this season. Each and every one of them has come back at him. he tried to make Balotelli a scapegoat earlier one. Can't excuse this on last season, youve simply not made the most of this season at all, failing on all fronts.
 
He has made mistakes, no denying that - but the unrealistic expectations fans have had because of the second place finish is doing more harm than good


I think we can dismiss the Lambert signing - for 4 million he was always going to be a low risk (financially) investment and at the time wasn't a bad signing on paper

The rest have been poor... Perhaps brought for the future and the supposed FSG way, but nonetheless poor for whatever reason

I for one am of the opinion sacking a manager who has not done a bad job in the slightest is madness




I'm sure if you just looked on this thread and the majority of the internet last season or even during our run in the middle of the season you'll see

I take it from that your understanding of fickle is different to mine? that doesn't make me fickle when i've kept the same opinion and not been swayed by up and downs?

The squad is more of a mess than when he arrived? don't make me laugh. 6th, 8th, 7th the finishes before Rodgers... at the moment he is looking at 7th, 2nd and 5th in an arguably harder league

if he had a system that worked why does he keep changing back to his tippy tappy ****. jheez your the only one that is still falling for rodgers bullshit. btw the league has not got harder, its a **** poor league which shows in english clubs abysmal europe records for the past couple of seasons.
 
It does make me laugh reading some of the comments going on. Rodgers has been our best manager for a while. Whist it has been a poor season, we have lost our two top scorers from last season. Admittedly, we have made some poor signings, but I'm not sure how much input Rodgers has had on them. We have a history of buying **** players even before Rodgers (we bought Djimi Traore and el Hadji Diouf ffs)

He easily deserves anther season. Injures have been a major problem this season too. Hopefully in the summer we will invest wisely and do a lot better next time around.
 
I'm sure if you just looked on this thread and the majority of the internet last season or even during our run in the middle of the season you'll see

I take it from that your understanding of fickle is different to mine? that doesn't make me fickle when i've kept the same opinion and not been swayed by up and downs?

I'm not saying you're fickle, I'm saying we're not fickle either since people here doubted Rodgers for a good while now, last season included. :P

The squad is more of a mess than when he arrived? don't make me laugh. 6th, 8th, 7th the finishes before Rodgers... at the moment he is looking at 7th, 2nd and 5th in an arguably harder league

But it is. How many solid players do you really have? Its been 3 years and half of your squad needs replacement, including whole bunch of Rodgers' signings.

How is the league harder? He took over at a time when English clubs started to suck donkeys *** in Europe. Your past managers had to play in a league where you couldn't keep an english club out of Champions League final for like 10 years. He played two seasons now in a league where United, the dominant force, have completely collapsed.

He had it easy, far as I'm concenred.
 
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