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Re Martinez, bear in mind Atletico are still fighting off Chelsea's interested in Griezmann.
 
Losing Gerrard/Suarez/Sterling within a year has to have some affect, if not on the owners, on the players but mainly on the fans. Like a less recently successful arsenal always selling their better players.

If we sign Clyne, Ings, Milner, Gomez, Benteke, then I'll have lost almost all hope with where we're going.
 
Ride The Walrus said:
Losing Gerrard/Suarez/Sterling within a year has to have some affect, if not on the owners, on the players but mainly on the fans. Like a less recently successful arsenal always selling their better players.

If we sign Clyne, Ings, Milner, Gomez, Benteke, then I'll have lost almost all hope with where we're going.
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You spent the Suarez money badly but looks like you'll get another opportunity to do better with the Sterling money this window. Also considering the window isn't even open yet I don't know why you are pessimistic already considering Ings and especially Milner are good signings in comparison to the business you've done in last few seasons. Gomez is just one for the future I imagine won't have hardly any first team involvement in the near future worth noting anyway.

Not sure why you'd be unhappy with Clyne either, England's best RB, done well at Southampton and has the ability with potential to get even better. Honestly as far as RB goes he's a good option atm and is better than Glen Johnson.

I'm just wondering how much better do you expect in Liverpool's current situation?
 
LFCMarshall said:
I agree.

But tt depends what you class as a 'top class signing' ... We haven't made one of them for years and years and i would included Torres and Suarez in that (Highly rated but by no means an almost guaranteed success)
It will be more of the same, trying to find the next biggest thing who can contribute now which is one of the hardest things to do else everyone would be doing it

I completely agree the staff turnover has been embarrassing. It needed a change-up but coming to the end of June with no first team coaches or an assistant manager is worrying
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Reports all pointing towards pepijn lijnders as the new first team coach to replace mike marsh. he is another bielsa disciple who loves playing high pressure football. ex porto coach aswell so you know he is highly rated, if this happens it is good news imo.
 
dilakh2 said:
Reports all pointing towards pepijn lijnders as the new first team coach to replace mike marsh. he is another bielsa disciple who loves playing high pressure football. ex porto coach aswell so you know he is highly rated, if this happens it is good news imo.
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Yep. Don't know much myself but from reports and interview he is a very, very highly rated coach
 
LFCMarshall said:
Yep. Don't know much myself but from reports and interview he is a very, very highly rated coach
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big upgrade on mike marsh who just seemed like the token scouser. does anyone know who the assistant manager will be, seems like bolo is being touted.
 
dilakh2 said:
big upgrade on mike marsh who just seemed like the token scouser. does anyone know who the assistant manager will be, seems like bolo is being touted.
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I don't know it can be said he's a 'big upgrade' (on paper it is, but you're talking about a guy that's ostensibly coached at varying youth levels. Whole different animal of person/ character at PL first team level); but what it does suggest is keeping in line with the rumours FSG will move on.

Keep the manager. Bump up youth staff on the cheap. Leaves options easier for the next owners to make changes if they so desire.
 
Ride The Walrus said:
Losing Gerrard/Suarez/Sterling within a year has to have some affect, if not on the owners, on the players but mainly on the fans. Like a less recently successful arsenal always selling their better players.

If we sign Clyne, Ings, Milner, Gomez, Benteke, then I'll have lost almost all hope with where we're going.
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We've not so much sold for selling sake per se, but more we had little option in it.

Torres **** all over everyone the end of the winter window a few years back by forcing a move even after we'd signed Suarez, who was signed to partner him. Reina lost his passion and wanted out as soon as Rafa left and wasn't for turning. Then you'd Suarez who wanted out and there was no amount of money or even the title if we hadn't thrown it away that was going to keep him here. His wife was already living in Spain and he'd decided he was joining her. (Although that aside he had to go after what he pulled twice over. Couldn't keep someone like that.). And now Sterling has forced his own exit. That's about all the major sales the last 4 years unless I'm missing someone.

I aren't suggesting you are saying this, just running with it as its been banded around quite a bit; but it's totally unfair to say we've become a selling club under FSG when they didn't want to sell to begin with.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I don't know it can be said he's a 'big upgrade' (on paper it is, but you're talking about a guy that's ostensibly coached at varying youth levels. Whole different animal of person/ character at PL first team level); but what it does suggest is keeping in line with the rumours FSG will move on.

Keep the manager. Bump up youth staff on the cheap. Leaves options easier for the next owners to make changes if they so desire.
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Normally i would agree with you however pepijn lijnders is no mike marsh, this guy was head hunted by porto from feyonoord. porto arent intrested in you as a coach if your not one of the best. the well renowened for having excellent coaches for their youth. the fundamentals of coaching are no that big when were talking about high end youth levels and first team coaching. the guy is highly rated for a reason, i would rather give a chance to this fella than hire dudds such as mike marsh and colin pascoe who were basically yes men.
 
Roberto Firmino 1/4 to sign for Liverpool with sky bet... Hopefully they know something we dont.

Unselfish, skillful, great passer, not a bad finisher either...

Would be boss with Coutinho and would be amazing at setting up Sturridge...
 
xJamieWilliams said:
Roberto Firmino 1/4 to sign for Liverpool with sky bet... Hopefully they know something we dont.

Unselfish, skillful, great passer, not a bad finisher either...

Would be boss with Coutinho and would be amazing at setting up Sturridge...
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You'd think if we were signing Firmino then we were leaning towards the 3-4-2-1 because he's a number 10 as well. And remember, we were favourites for Depay just a few days before he joined United, so I'm not getting my hopes up yet :/
 
xJamieWilliams said:
Roberto Firmino 1/4 to sign for Liverpool with sky bet... Hopefully they know something we dont.

Unselfish, skillful, great passer, not a bad finisher either...

Would be boss with Coutinho and would be amazing at setting up Sturridge...
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The only thing slybet know is how to take money of numpty's. i remember we were odds on to sign ribery back in the days...
 
Globo Esporte are reporting that it's almost a done deal to take Firmino to Liverpool.

Great business to replace Sterling for less than you sell him for and before you sell him. Only question is whether he will adapt well, Brazilians tend to struggle for a while.
 
DMF said:
Globo Esporte are reporting that it's almost a done deal to take Firmino to Liverpool.

Great business to replace Sterling for less than you sell him for and before you sell him. Only question is whether he will adapt well, Brazilians tend to struggle for a while.
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A long way to go of course, but selling Sterling for 40-50million and getting in Firmino for 18-22 million would be very unlike Liverpool!
 
LFCMarshall said:
A long way to go of course, but selling Sterling for 40-50million and getting in Firmino for 18-22 million would be very unlike Liverpool!
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Would be awesome business!

Can't really compare them both as they are different players, but if Firmino settled he would be perfect for our club. An extremely unselfish player with bags of ability, I wasn't expecting us to be linked let alone this heavily.

But as us Liverpool fans know, this means nothing yet...
 
Ben Smith's confirmed the interest, we've held talks, but itll be after the Copa America at least.
 
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