Way to prove me wrong, I just got rekt.
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Way to prove me wrong, I just got rekt.
Not you wrong, it's wenger wrong.
Arsenal fans are frustrated just like Liverpool fans were frustrated under Rodgers. There is nothing wrong is fans venting their frustration just like Liverpool fans did, not sure why you are so defensive.
It's not defensive to point out how you shift the focus over on Liverpool booing Rodgers, without a single effort to understand the differences behind those two situations. First of all, like I said Rodgers never won the league with Liverpool. In fact he didn't win anything with Liverpool, and he's never won a single title. Secondly, Rodgers hadn't been at Liverpool for two decades, consistently earning CL qualification every single season. Thirdly, Rodgers admitted the fans were right to boo him due to the poor results.
No, there's nothing wrong in fans venting their frustration, but that doesn't mean that when two sets of fans vent their frustration you can immediately equate the two situations. There are differences and nuances you refuse to acknowledge, because you're so predisposed to poking Liverpool any chance you get instead of reflecting on the matter at hand. I'm merely pointing that out. If you regard that as defensive then fine, but I believe your post history in this thread speaks for itself.
All your points just paint Wenger in very bad way. All the time he had and he has failed to deliver in the last 10-12 years. Rodgers admitted fans were right to boo him whereas Wenger wants Arsenal fans to stick their head in sand and be happy as if there is nothing wrong with the club. Rodgers is coming out as a bigger man. At least he knew there were problems.
I don't know what level of control Rodgers had but Wenger has complete control but still he is failing. Not a single outfield player signed in the summer and they paid the price for it. Like I said, Arsenal fans are booing him rightly.
No. Liverpool came in to equation because Wenger said about Liverpool. I said pointed out how it was not so different just few months ago when fans lost **** in every game. I didn't do the comparison, Wenger did it and he was wrong.
Oh excuse me for not sticking my head in Klopp's *** or before that in Rodgers' ***.
Back-to-back FA cups is a lot more than Rodgers even accomplished. That's my point here: The situations aren't identical, but your initial comment on it made it seem like it was.
Again, it was different. And Wenger didn't make that comparison, you did. Wenger only compared the fans supporting their teams, he said nothing about Rodgers. You brought Rodgers into it.
Apology not accepted.
Arsenal fans want more than just few cups. It's been so long since they challenged for the title and that's why they are frustrated. Situations are identical, when fans are not happy with the direction team is heading they vent their frustration. You are stressing on what team won and what not but the point is what fans do when they are not happy with the team.
lol, Wenger made the comparison and I pointed out how he was wrong by backing my point with proofs. Maybe you forgot how it was just few months back now that everything is rosy.
So I will make it very simple for you without any names.
Few months back Liverpool fans booed their team just like Arsenal fans are doing now. So Wenger is wrong.
Every clubs fans boo their team when needed, there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe in your little Disney world, Liverpool fans are the bestest who always support their team but that's not the case in reality.
Not sure what I've missed. Yeah I remember, after the embarrassing 1-1 draw with FC Sion?
Arsenal boo after a 1-1 draw with United.
I think that you misunderstand the point that Sunil was making. Wenger was the one who said that Liverpool fans always support their team whereas Sunil just pointed out that what Wenger said was incorrect as even Rodgers was boo'ed many times
I didn't misunderstand it, there was not much room for misunderstanding. I was merely pointing out that they were completely different situations, while he insisted they were identical.
I never understood the whole ethos of fans being obligated to suppport the team no matter what.
**** like that maybe made sense in the 70s. But nowadays, when clubs treat not you not as a supporter, but as a customer, a source of extracting income? How about that - I paid for the ticket, and once I take my seat I'll do what I ******* want.
**** like that maybe made sense in the 70s. But nowadays, when clubs treat not you not as a supporter, but as a customer, a source of extracting income? How about that - I paid for the ticket, and once I take my seat I'll do what I ******* want.
Many times? Boy this will be good.
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just wondering if anyone has read this, maybe something has gone on behind the scenes Liverpool's Daniel Sturridge insists he wants to start matches and cannot commit long-term to the Reds - Mirror Online
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The (darn) rain in Spain ..... But as a mate rightly say's, much quicker and easier to dry yer bare legs than dry yer kecks. Very mixed weather aside, brilliant little trip that. Valencia as boss as ever (Just HOW did you f that up Neville lad? Where better a place would yers want to live like?). And Villarreal was a quaint little place with real friendly locals. ***** away end like the ground. Seemed as many steps as Newcastle to climb to get up there and stuck right up the top with the roof coming down and big frigging perspex glass screens and stanchion's in the way. Disappointed in that as it's always been one I wanted to go but at least it's ticked off the list. So onto the semi .....
Honestly REAL surprised at the reaction to the game. Both in the bars after among friends and on social media the morning after. I thought it was a pretty good game of footie (from what I could tell behind the glass), that was almost the perfect European away performance were it not for Moreno's moment of base stupidity undoing all the earlier hard work. Seen our approach criticised but I'd take the opposite view and say it was a spot-on game plan that ultimately just wasn't quite executed at the end when we for some inexplicable reason went gun-ho to get a winner after an absolutely World class Mingolet save (credit where credit's due. We could well be looking back on that in 5 days as playing a MAJOR part in getting to yet another European final); which just played into the counter-attacking instincts of what Villarreal are all about and ultimately cost us a more than deserved draw. That will come with more experience and better players. The ability to stay disciplined to the last and completely shut the game down and take the draw home. But I love the fact we've now seen another facet of Klopp in Europe and his tactical nounce to change when appropriate to the strengths of the opposition. Fills you with real confidence for future European campaigns which was never there before his arrival. Had we gone out and really attacked, pushing men forward, it would of just played into Villarreal's hands and left us open for what they do best. Hitting quickly on the break. (Thought some of their interplay the back was fantastic BTW when we pressed. And the little number 18 was benefiting from how comfortable all their back 4 are at playing their way out of trouble/ around the press.). So to set up and counter/ nullify that almost worked to perfection until Moreno's costly mistake the death. That was about as easy a European away as you could wish for and we had arguably the better chances to win it. ****, if Allen had buried that early chance the game could of been so different and the tie over already. Another example of why I'm not big at all at extending him. Yeah, he's been doing real well recently. But when it counts, he just doesn't cut it in terms of production. Gerrard would of buried that for example. Free chance, unmarked, in the box. You HAVE to score.
Where I would criticise Klopp was in his changes. Benteke should of been on half-time for Phil. Clyne had acre's of space down the right all night but no presence in the middle. Ibe was just rank bad when he came on. No problem in not seeing Sturridge at all. He'd just had to play the full 90 against Newcastle and we know we're still having to manage him back to full health to be ready for the pre-season. Wouldn't play him at all tomorrow and have him raring to go and chomping at the bit for next Thursday.
Really not worried about next Thursday at all. (To the tune I bit the bullet Friday and booked both flights the final for £ 97 combined. And from up North too. RESULT!
. Yup, VERY confident of being in Basle in three weeks or so. (H).). Don't get me wrong, I can see it being harder than Dortmund in so much as these are a far more defensive side and real good on the counter attack. But the fourth best in Spain is a good ways short of what the fourth best side in England would be under normal circumstances and I didn't see much to fear from them at all. Either on the night or the game against Sociedad I watched last weekend. Rocking Anfield. Under the lights. In Europe. You know the script ..... Nothings changed. Even at 0-0 we'd still have to go out and win so the objective is the same.
Disappointing to get beat but not despondent by any means as regards the tie and it didn't put too much of a damper on a boss little trip. (The weather took care of that haha.). It's Spain. Great food and rioja. Great people who love their footie. What more could you want from a few days away from reality?
Roll on next Thursday and the next step to that record equalling 4th UEFA Cup.
Honestly REAL surprised at the reaction to the game. Both in the bars after among friends and on social media the morning after. I thought it was a pretty good game of footie (from what I could tell behind the glass), that was almost the perfect European away performance were it not for Moreno's moment of base stupidity undoing all the earlier hard work. Seen our approach criticised but I'd take the opposite view and say it was a spot-on game plan that ultimately just wasn't quite executed at the end when we for some inexplicable reason went gun-ho to get a winner after an absolutely World class Mingolet save (credit where credit's due. We could well be looking back on that in 5 days as playing a MAJOR part in getting to yet another European final); which just played into the counter-attacking instincts of what Villarreal are all about and ultimately cost us a more than deserved draw. That will come with more experience and better players. The ability to stay disciplined to the last and completely shut the game down and take the draw home. But I love the fact we've now seen another facet of Klopp in Europe and his tactical nounce to change when appropriate to the strengths of the opposition. Fills you with real confidence for future European campaigns which was never there before his arrival. Had we gone out and really attacked, pushing men forward, it would of just played into Villarreal's hands and left us open for what they do best. Hitting quickly on the break. (Thought some of their interplay the back was fantastic BTW when we pressed. And the little number 18 was benefiting from how comfortable all their back 4 are at playing their way out of trouble/ around the press.). So to set up and counter/ nullify that almost worked to perfection until Moreno's costly mistake the death. That was about as easy a European away as you could wish for and we had arguably the better chances to win it. ****, if Allen had buried that early chance the game could of been so different and the tie over already. Another example of why I'm not big at all at extending him. Yeah, he's been doing real well recently. But when it counts, he just doesn't cut it in terms of production. Gerrard would of buried that for example. Free chance, unmarked, in the box. You HAVE to score.
Where I would criticise Klopp was in his changes. Benteke should of been on half-time for Phil. Clyne had acre's of space down the right all night but no presence in the middle. Ibe was just rank bad when he came on. No problem in not seeing Sturridge at all. He'd just had to play the full 90 against Newcastle and we know we're still having to manage him back to full health to be ready for the pre-season. Wouldn't play him at all tomorrow and have him raring to go and chomping at the bit for next Thursday.
Really not worried about next Thursday at all. (To the tune I bit the bullet Friday and booked both flights the final for £ 97 combined. And from up North too. RESULT!
. Yup, VERY confident of being in Basle in three weeks or so. (H).). Don't get me wrong, I can see it being harder than Dortmund in so much as these are a far more defensive side and real good on the counter attack. But the fourth best in Spain is a good ways short of what the fourth best side in England would be under normal circumstances and I didn't see much to fear from them at all. Either on the night or the game against Sociedad I watched last weekend. Rocking Anfield. Under the lights. In Europe. You know the script ..... Nothings changed. Even at 0-0 we'd still have to go out and win so the objective is the same. Disappointing to get beat but not despondent by any means as regards the tie and it didn't put too much of a damper on a boss little trip. (The weather took care of that haha.). It's Spain. Great food and rioja. Great people who love their footie. What more could you want from a few days away from reality?
Roll on next Thursday and the next step to that record equalling 4th UEFA Cup.
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It's just a horrible spin on the fact that Sturridge said he wants to play every minute of every match. Like all players really. And he also said that he couldn't say "Liverpool till I die" because it'd be a lie. Just Sturridge being honest, doesn't mean he's upset with Klopp or wants to leave in the summer.
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Awesomely brilliant from our friends across the park today.
Above and beyond that is REAL appreciated. Solidarity. Another thing that set's our City apart.
Thank you blues. Classy.
Watch: Everton fans’ emotional tribute to families of the 96 Hillsborough victims - Liverpool Echo
And the same to every other club and support who paid tribute today. Thank you. Means a lot.
Above and beyond that is REAL appreciated. Solidarity. Another thing that set's our City apart.
Thank you blues. Classy.
Watch: Everton fans’ emotional tribute to families of the 96 Hillsborough victims - Liverpool Echo
And the same to every other club and support who paid tribute today. Thank you. Means a lot.
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Thank you. Appreciated.
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Wait. WHAT?!!!!! They have to be serious high level comps. surely?
If I can (and chances are things should be floating around. Although EVERY Norwegian red will be there so there is that lol), I'll sort you one if we're there mate. Don't panic.
Already booked a few refundable rooms in Trondheim like. (Always thinking ahead haha.). Looks a boss little place and much easier to get to via Oslo than I thought.
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Never during games. And anyone that did (mainly day trippers) where quickly put in their place. Just something we've never done. It's like an unwritten rule with us. However bad it's gotten under Suness/ Hodgson/ Rodgers et all, you don't let feelings be known during the game. During the game, you're they're to support. AFTER the game, I have zero problem with letting your feelings be known if they deserve it. (Never really liked feelings bubbling over under Rodgers to half-time boos at the very back end but I'm old school there that the 90 minutes is not the time.), Big distinction to what was talked about Rodgers on line/ among L'pool fans wherever and the conduct, for want of a better word, at games.
That's the key differential and point Wenger (and mersk) where trying to make as far as I just read that. Arsenal fans are going about it all the wrong way.
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