The Liverpool Thread

[Dannybell2011]

Tbh, I'm a bit bemused by it all. It's not like he had any intentions of leaving, and he's not one to break and run to another club.

yeah i feel like its something we could have sorted out next year but then again knowing the manger is even less likely to go anywhere any time soon is good news for me

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

i felt that he would have useful last season when we really could have done with a winger when we had coutinho firmino and lallana all coming in midfield and when theres games where we needed to make the pitch wider he could have been that person tbh

Yeah, utterly pointless loan to Turkey last year. Aside from the fact we could of used him, what he needed was experience and toughening up to our league. So we send him to a lot lower level the other side of Europe. Genius.

 

[Dannybell2011]

Yeah, utterly pointless loan to Turkey last year. Aside from the fact we could of used him, what he needed was experience and toughening up to our league. So we send him to a lot lower level the other side of Europe. Genius.

yeah you couldn't have put that better, you happy about possibly allan and lucas leaving?

 

[Mike.]

Hard to know who's telling the truth on anything right now. Mane's fresh in the mind. L'pool insist it's £30 million. Southampton more plus add-on's. Everyone seems to be trying to blag everyone else to keep their own fans happy.

A buyback isnt something you blag. Liverpool haven't counted the addons, Saints have, can see how that happends. But a buyback is either there or its not.

 

[Mike.]

yeah i feel like its something we could have sorted out next year but then again knowing the manger is even less likely to go anywhere any time soon is good news for me

Yeah I get that. But I just dont see it as massive news. I can see why LFCMarshall is a bit cynical.

 

[Dannybell2011]

Yeah I get that. But I just dont see it as massive news. I can see why LFCMarshall is a bit cynical.

No its not big news as you say when he wernt going anywhere anyway, much prefar us to be bidding for players in the transfer window while its open

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

yeah you couldn't have put that better, you happy about possibly allan and lucas leaving?

If replacements are there. Nothing against either player but we could do better.

Allen just is too small and lightweight to really be a regular for me in the PL. Technically an excellent footballer, but his size goes against him and the one tribute he does lack works against him too. Pace. Never has been able to get away from anyone. Reminds me a lot of when we had Charlie Adam. Brilliant footballer. Had everything. But he didn't not just have a lack of pace, he had NONE at all. Adam flat out was like Gerrard walking. And it showed time and again when he just got crowded out immediately in midfield. But fair play to Joe. It's not about money. He just wants to play regularly. Can't begrudge him that. Best for both party's.

Lucas is on the downside of his career if we're honest. He's not going to play much at all with the reduced fixture list so would he be happy sticking around at this stage to do that? The one downside with him going is more experience leaving the club. I think that would leave our oldest player Lallana at 29. Good servant like that's been very under appreciated often. Maybe Brannigan get's more rope to be the DM/ holding midfield back-up if he leaves?

 

[Mike.]

No its not big news as you say when he wernt going anywhere anyway, much prefar us to be bidding for players in the transfer window while its open

Indeed, lets hope FSG arent insulting Liverpool fans by using it as a smokescreen for lack of signings.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

A buyback isnt something you blag. Liverpool haven't counted the addons, Saints have, can see how that happends. But a buyback is either there or its not.

If only football was as black and white and upfront honest. Make these here boards more peaceful for one.

We'll see what both turn out to be but I'm very happy with each deal on the face of it.

 

[Mike.]

If only football was as black and white and upfront honest. Make these here boards more peaceful for one.

We'll see what both turn out to be but I'm very happy with each deal on the face of it.

I trust the telegraph when it comes to saints. But the Ibe deal is still in the air, thought without a buyback as it stands

 

[Dannybell2011]

If replacements are there. Nothing against either player but we could do better.

Allen just is too small and lightweight to really be a regular for me in the PL. Technically an excellent footballer, but his size goes against him and the one tribute he does lack works against him too. Pace. Never has been able to get away from anyone. Reminds me a lot of when we had Charlie Adam. Brilliant footballer. Had everything. But he didn't not just have a lack of pace, he had NONE at all. Adam flat out was like Gerrard walking. And it showed time and again when he just got crowded out immediately in midfield. But fair play to Joe. It's not about money. He just wants to play regularly. Can't begrudge him that. Best for both party's.

Lucas is on the downside of his career if we're honest. He's not going to play much at all with the reduced fixture list so would he be happy sticking around at this stage to do that? The one downside with him going is more experience leaving the club. I think that would leave our oldest player Lallana at 29. Good servant like that's been very under appreciated often. Maybe Brannigan get's more rope to be the DM/ holding midfield back-up if he leaves?

Been honest i wouldnt mind allen staying been its hard to find a solid back up player but as you said he does seem to want 1st team player which isnt going to happen here, i completely agree with lucas but will be a shame to see him go he even talks scouse these days. would be nice to see more young players coming threw but i would want us to still be putting strong teams out in the fa and league cup gives us the best chance of winning something and going back to wembley would be amazing but hopefully winning this time!

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Yeah I get that. But I just dont see it as massive news. I can see why LFCMarshall is a bit cynical.

Oh I can absolutely see why he or anyone else would be. It's a continued pattern at Anfield over many years and it's hard not to reference the past let downs as much as you try not to.

But we now roll as the manager rolls. This isn't the Rodgers era. He either wants or he doesn't want. And has the final say on everything. Good or bad. Boston money men deciding who comes and goes is no longer the case and something we all need to let go of.

 

[Dannybell2011]

Oh I can absolutely see why he or anyone else would be. It's a continued pattern at Anfield over many years and it's hard not to reference the past let downs as much as you try not to.

But we now roll as the manager rolls. This isn't the Rodgers era. He either wants or he doesn't want. And has the final say on everything. Good or bad. Boston money men deciding who comes and goes is no longer the case and something we all need to let go of.

ino we dont need a striker but i love to wake up to liverpool bid 40m for higuain(just example) show some massive intention

 

[LFCMarshall]

i would like to see markovic given a game i remember the game he had against sunderland scored a good goal and ruled the right side of the pitch but he wasnt given time to stettle because he was been played rw then lwb then rwb, hes a winger let him play RW

Markovic is a strange one - really highly rated but messed around a bit. Who knows, could be like a new signing.

There's no buyback clause, which could be a mistake. But then I never thought he would be better than Sterling, so perhaps not.

I was one who thought Ibe could, and that's not detrimental to Sterling at all.

It seemed he had pace and power and was a naturally bigger build than Sterling so perhaps could cope in the PL a little better. Not quite sure what has happened the past season.

 

[LFCMarshall]

ino we dont need a striker but i love to wake up to liverpool bid 40m for higuain(just example) show some massive intention

Wouldn't complain of course, but if we were going to splash I would much prefer it be on a position we need (CM) if the targets were available.

Origi, Sturridge, Ings, Firmino i think are good enough options seeing as we are not in Europe

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

ino we dont need a striker but i love to wake up to liverpool bid 40m for higuain(just example) show some massive intention

As fans, I'm sure most would. It's what excites you. And even more so as L'pool fans when you've had the same tried and failed formula year after year. I totally get that and understand the envious looks elsewhere.

That said, personally speaking, I'm not bothered in the slightest with the likes of Grujic under this fella' because of his track record. I would be were this happening again under Rodgers. But we now have one of the best coaches in World football for finding the perfect fit for what he does and developing them into top bracket players. And if there's someone along the lines of Texiera, Mane or even more so Gotze who's already top bracket and fits all he requires, brilliant. He'll go for them too and pay the money.

We made our biggest World class signing last October when we hired the crazy German. And everything's related for me to letting go of all that's gone before and just trusting him to build this right with players that tick all the boxes for ourselves.

We're already a lot stronger than we where last year in some key areas, with someone like Mane hopefully making players like Coutinho and Firmino even better by the space he'll open up for them. And two of those players where highly sought by two other massive clubs in Munich and Utd the past year. So we're not doing bad at all in comparison IMO.

Still 2 months of the window to go. Let's see where we stand come August 8th at Arsenal.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Just hope we're not looking at being a £20 million plus defender down for a lengthy period of time when UEFA have finished with Sakho today.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Talking of centre half's ......

Skrtel on brink of Liverpool FC exit - Liverpool Echo

Only a million deficit on the £6.5 mil we paid 8 years ago for a player WELL on the downside of his career.

God bless the 'buy anyone' Turks!

 

[Average Joe]

Ibe, Sterling and Shelvey cost Liverpool an initial £3 million. Liverpool sold the three of them for around £75 million.

If Ibe is actually sold

 

[Tezzz]

There's no buyback clause, which could be a mistake. But then I never thought he would be better than Sterling, so perhaps not.

If we're talking transfer fees, Ibe is less than a third of the player Sterling is.

...and half an Andy Carroll.