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VERY pertinent piece on the depths Everton slumped to Sat'day:

https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2017/04/evertons-derby-day-shithousery-the-blues-broke-the-line-between-courage-and-cowardice-yet-again/

There is simply NO better way to start the working week then going in after you've just wallopped the blues. (AGAIN!)

I do believe this big **** **** eating grin will be on my face around here for quite some time. :D.

This has been an excellent Monday.

And a nice stat to add to the good mood to show why one team is going in one direction and the other, well, the other:

Goals against the top seven this season:

Sadio Mane: 6
Manchester United: 5

 
dilakh2 said:
http://www.bavarianfootballworks.co...fer-bayern-munich-bayer-leverkusen-30-million

Would be really disappointing if its true that Bayern has got to him before us. Top player in the making and would have really looked comfortable on the left wing which is a position we need strengthening in. Fast, ambidextrous and can pick out a pass. Think we might have missed one here.
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Theatre of dreams said:
That German reporter on BT Sport Honigstein said it will be official before the end of season.
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Brandt's father, who's also his agent, has completely dismissed the Bayern reports today FWIW:

Julian Brandt hope for Liverpool as father denies Bayern deal - Liverpool Echo
 
Bujakaa said:
Liverpool worried Sadio Mane could be out for the season with knee problem
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Next man up!

Time for big Div to step back up and grab his chance. Hopefully his goal Sat'day and overall FAR better all round performance will of boosted his confidence and restored his belief in himself.

And personally speaking, I wouldn't mind at all if Woodburn, Wilson or even Trent, pushed higher up the field, got serious minutes between now and the end of the season. They've all (Wilson and no PL outings as yet aside) shown they fit and belong at this level. No worries at all if the youngsters are called upon.
 
Theatre of dreams said:




Bryan Swanson‏
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Liverpool banned by Premier League from signing academy players for two years & fined £100,000. More on #SSNHQ #LFC
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Major cockup by LFC. First of all the Kid and his family are left in a lurch with having to possibly pay thousands of pounds in school fees as Stoke refuse to pick up the tab. Secondly, he's a ****** 12 yr old am I the only one that feels transferring 12 yr old kids no matter how good they are or can be is just a new low for Premier league Football Clubs.
 
dilakh2 said:
Major cockup by LFC. First of all the Kid and his family are left in a lurch with having to possibly pay thousands of pounds in school fees as Stoke refuse to pick up the tab. Secondly, he's a ****** 12 yr old am I the only one that feels transferring 12 yr old kids no matter how good they are or can be is just a new low for Premier league Football Clubs.
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personally think kids shouldn't be able to transfer clubs till 16, maybe even 18 unless out of contract or whatever, don't agree with all the big clubs scooping up all the young talent I mean its Pool in this instance but United, City etc do it regular.
 
Still don't really know what the club are supposed to of done wrong there as the FA changed the rules during the process. But regardless, a ban until next March, only domestic Academy transfers, with a year suspended and a minimal fine seems nominal.

More embarrassing than anything that they were not aware of the impending rule change when they started negotiations.

But hey, that was before Inglethorpe came in and changed the whole structure at Kirkby and how the club goes about things so no real biggie just having the 12 month domestic Academy ban.

Not sure about Stoke retaining the lads rights like for the £50K compensation. Feel for him being in limbo there.
 
Pfft two points dropped both goals easily avoidable. Klopp's change in tactics took away the momentum being built, looks like a poor decision now in hindsight. Klavan had a mare once again, he cannot deal with pace at all. Why didn't Matip start if he was fit enough to play 30 plus min?
 
epic terrorist said:
personally think kids shouldn't be able to transfer clubs till 16, maybe even 18 unless out of contract or whatever, don't agree with all the big clubs scooping up all the young talent.
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Why? If you were young player, wouldn't you prefer to be scooped up by a big club instead of being forced to stay at Shitchester FC?

I keep hearing these arguments how big clubs are exploiting child labor or whatever, but let's not bullshit ourselves here. They're not working in coal mines, they're moving to places where there are far better facilities, far better coaching and far better money to boot.

Maybe it's exploitation, but I think I wouldn't mind being exploited by Barcelona and driving S class Mercedes before 18. :P
 
dilakh2 said:
Pfft two points dropped both goals easily avoidable. Klopp's change in tactics took away the momentum being built, looks like a poor decision now in hindsight. Klavan had a mare once again, he cannot deal with pace at all. Why didn't Matip start if he was fit enough to play 30 plus min?
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Guess a half hour playing with a bad back is more bearable than 1 and a half. Shrugs.

Kloppo got a few things completely wrong tonight. Taking the result and trying to shut up shop was one. COMPLETELY out of character made even more surprising as they'd upped the tempo second half and were all over a ***** Bournemouth outfit. Changing formation and trying to close it down messed all that up and the rhythm completely went out our play. And not making more changes when everyone looked absolutely goosed from the physical and mental exertions of everything the Derby entails was another. Firmino in particular looked well leggy and fatigued.

All that said, you can't account for the absolutely abysmal defending on the only two real attacks Bournemouth had. WTF Wijnaldum was doing the backpass the first **** only knows. And then the only time they remotely got near our box second half, you get more self-inflicted F-ups. Getting beat on the second ball from a throw-in is totally unacceptable. ******* can't defend properly when we play our normal game. ******* can't defend properly when we try to shut it down. Managers on a no winner.

Pretty ***** game all round that had the feel of a testimonial until we stepped it up second half. Klaven was especially *****. For a third choice centre half he's had to play WAY too many games this season. And has gotten steadily worse the longer it's gone on. Thought Orig was boss. Clear MOTM for me. Great touches. Ran his heart out. Held it up well and always looked a threat. Another goal too to continue his growing confidence. (Brilliant feet and cross from Gini to atone there.). Phil is back to being good Phil again. But the rest were just not at it. Made even more galling and frustrating as this is a poor Bournemouth side we've dominated the majority of both games this year and only ended up with one frigging point.

Talking of Bournemouth, Ibe's still utter wank. That lad has completely and utterly fallen off a cliff. And looks to be still falling with no end in sight. Complete waste of natural God given talent in a career just stopped the past few years.

Oh yeah. Rodgers was right. Lee Mason's still a gobshite *******.

Pretty ***** and frustrating night all round. Least Stoke and West Brom the next two are on their holidays already so there is that.
 
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Perspective.

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Klopp got a few things wrong. But the biggest issues stem from transfer work. As you say, klavan has played too much for a 3Rd/4th choice CB. Liverpool need to get through to the end of the season, and get some targets right. Bad day, but it's dine now
 
What really irks me is that when we do have to defend we can actually be really good at it. Case proved by the number of goals conceded when we play against the top 6. So why do complacency and a lack of concentration creep into our game when we play the lower sides. I mean to concede to the two shots that Bournemouth had on target is pretty abysmal. Why this hasn't been addressed is whats concerning me as I'm sure Klopp drills it into the players to keep their focus whoever the opposition is.
 
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Well Uhhh, I wasnt expecting that for a line up!
 
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