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Scouseinthehouse said:
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The costs of non playing staff wages is about
Scouseinthehouse said:
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Thing is, no club in the premier League needs to be furloughing non playing staff to guarantee their wages. There's no excuse for any club taking tax payer money to do so. At least Liverpool have topped up the missing 20% which makes it less worse than Spurs, but they deserve all the flak they get, as does any club taking the same route. Every single club can afford to take the short term hit I posted above. At worst it means not buying a player or two. To move off your most vulnerable staff first is underhanded and morally bankrupt.
 
Mike. said:
The costs of non playing staff wages is about

Thing is, no club in the premier League needs to be furloughing non playing staff to guarantee their wages. There's no excuse for any club taking tax payer money to do so. At least Liverpool have topped up the missing 20% which makes it less worse than Spurs, but they deserve all the flak they get, as does any club taking the same route. Every single club can afford to take the short term hit I posted above. At worst it means not buying a player or two. To move off your most vulnerable staff first is underhanded and morally bankrupt.
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As the SOS statement ratified, you won't get any argument from anyone here to any of that.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
As the SOS statement ratified, you won't get any argument from anyone here to any of that.
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There's going to be a real schism between players and clubs after this. Players are getting all the flak, while clubs hide. Tell you what, the next bunch of contract signings will be interesting. How many players will look at how their club acted and say "you know what, I'm not that keen anymore'?
 
Liverpool are set to reverse their decision on furloughing staff. Comes are Manchester United have announced they won't be take up the government scheme and all 900 odd staff will remain on full pay from the club.
 
Apparently Mayor Joe got in touch with Peter Moore directly... Good work by the people of Liverpool. FSG will need to own this
 
Mike. said:
Apparently Mayor Joe got in touch with Peter Moore directly... Good work by the people of Liverpool. FSG will need to own this
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Only after it was a PR disaster this has really soured my view on the owners. Can't be out here going "this means more" or whatever cringy slogan they come up with and pulling the stunt they just did.
 
My heart sank when I heard the King tested for covid-19, hopefully he is asymptomatic and is fine. Only man bigger than the club for me will always be the greatest.
 
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The hardest, worst day of the year. EVERY year.

Made even harder this year as we face today alone. Left to do our own, personal act of remembrance. Apart from the company of the same, great friends I share this saddest of days for all of us with every other 15th as we battle the heart-wrenching devastation that’s irrevocably changing the World as we know it.

A frustrating but wholly necessary by-product of the lockdown.

God rest our lost friends in the Heavens above. And God watch over the rest of us lucky enough to still be here.

YNWA. JFT96.
 
Our sport channel is showing important old games for now and just watched cl final Pool vs Milan. **** it was crazy game from start to finish. So many emotions and purr passion.
 
As we commemorate the Ev's last trophy win 25 years ago today (thats TWENTY-FIVE years ago! A QUARTER of a Century!!!!! BIG club that they are .....) .....

A reminder of the last 25 years over the park-

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And they say L'pool have been through a drought period .....
 
Aight time for some football discussion this ones for you Scouse. Now I might be biased but for me the way Klopp has as playing makes us the most balanced and effective side in the world for me. I cringe every time I hear that we are just a gegenpressing side that just wins the ball and thats it. Forgetting that 90% of sides that play us will not bother leaving the half way line and will try to hit us on the counter or try and score from waiting for a mistake from us.

Theres the Firmino dropping in to either drag the CB with him or occupy the opp DM, this obv allows Mane and Salah to score plenty. Even then it isnt a simple Firmino drops and theres space available as most teams try counter that by playing even deeper. What makes the front three even better is the speed at which they combine and link up and this is were Firmino is key he is literally the forward system as Mane and Salah play the intricate one two passing to get in behind through him.

Theres the width that comes from the fullbacks but its the different way they both play. Robertson is all about the overlap and joining the attack as soon as mane gets on the ball creating an overload. However the way we play Trent is genius as he can do both for me and by that I mean provide overlap and pinpoint crosses but also tuck in and create from deep thus allowing whichever midfielder is tasked with playing between the line and joining the attack to get forward e.g Wiji or Naby and even Hendo lately. One thing I have noticed this season is how direct we are even when in possession this is probably a result from having Van Dijk and Ali who are comfortable with playing quick diagonals bypassing the opp midfield to either Winger or Fullback. Were even direct in how we shuttle the ball across to break down low blocks when going out wide and quick none of this slow possession waiting for a moment bs lol.

Personally for me our side is Klopps refinement and version of Cryuff total football except you could say our fullbacks are more attacking. Klopp said it best there is no better playmaker than the counter press which is in line with Cryuff ideology that its what you do off the ball that matters most. This clamouring for a creative midfielder is stupid when the midfield is already creative but in its own way.

TLDR: a refinement of Cruyff total football mixed with a a direct style of play.
 
Feel free to add anything if I missed or you see anything different scouse.
 
dilakh2 said:
..... TLDR: a refinement of Cruyff total football mixed with a a direct style of play.
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I always read you mate and I have little to add that's neither been said there by you so eloquently or elsewhere on these here pages in the recent past.

This is, without doubt, the most controlling, tactically astute, consistent L'pool side in my life-time. I'd possibly have Kenny's great '87/'88 side slightly ahead in the excitement stakes, but on every other facet you care to mention we've, and the English league period come to that, have rarely seen anything like the absurdly consistant level that these lads are now at.

Kind of hope Pep stays and City strengthen. We need the competition that only they can offer any time soon. That can only be beneficial to both clubs.

As a related side note, as much as I have zero interest in BCD personally, I think it's absolutely perfect for City and L'pool more than any other teams. The two best teachers in the Country coaching their sides constantly through games. And two sides that rarely give the ball away in their own, very intricate, different takes on the Dutch ideal that you equated superbly. Lockdown footie should be just an extension of a training session/ match for Pep and Klopp's teams.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I always read you mate and I have little to add that's neither been said there by you so eloquently or elsewhere on these here pages in the recent past.

This is, without doubt, the most controlling, tactically astute, consistent L'pool side in my life-time. I'd possibly have Kenny's great '87/'88 side slightly ahead in the excitement stakes, but on every other facet you care to mention we've, and the English league period come to that, have rarely seen anything like the absurdly consistant level that these lads are now at.

Kind of hope Pep stays and City strengthen. We need the competition that only they can offer any time soon. That can only be beneficial to both clubs.

As a related side note, as much as I have zero interest in BCD personally, I think it's absolutely perfect for City and L'pool more than any other teams. The two best teachers in the Country coaching their sides constantly through games. And two sides that rarely give the ball away in their own, very intricate, different takes on the Dutch ideal that you equated superbly. Lockdown footie should be just an extension of a training session/ match for Pep and Klopp's teams.
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BCD? I'm a bit slow this morning lol but yeah Pep also plays his own version of total football as well. It will be great to see how Pep deals with having an actual challenge for once as he often burns out him and his players hence him never lasting more than 3 seasons at one club. The challenge for us is can we maintain the superhuman form or wilk the riguors of two seasons of near perfection take its toll?
 
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