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That's because he isnt 30+ years old. He regularly orders the defence around though.

Not really, look at Courtois, commands the box much better than De Gea.

Also look at Neuer, Begovic, Lloris.

Saying you have to be 30+ to suddenly do that is rubbish man. He just doesn't come across as one of them goalkeepers.
 
Not really, look at Courtois, commands the box much better than De Gea.

Also look at Neuer, Begovic, Lloris.

Saying you have to be 30+ to suddenly do that is rubbish man. He just doesn't come across as one of them goalkeepers.
He is, he was commanding already in Atletico, just he is young and it also depends what kind of defence line you have in front of him. Ours atm are just too shaky.
 
He is, he was commanding already in Atletico, just he is young and it also depends what kind of defence line you have in front of him. Ours atm are just too shaky.

It's part of his job to organise the defence infront of him, not saying it's his fault, but if we still had a Van Der Sar or someone like that in between the sticks I just don't see the implosion like we had happening.

Conceding 4 goals in a row to a newly promoted team with shambolic defending and players all over the place, no organisation there whatsoever at that point.

We needed a calm authoritative figure, somewhere, but it wasn't to be seen.

Not saying the GK should necessarily be that person, but if we don't have one in the back line then it has to be.
 
It's part of his job to organise the defence infront of him, not saying it's his fault, but if we still had a Van Der Sar or someone like that in between the sticks I just don't see the implosion like we had happening.

Conceding 4 goals in a row to a newly promoted team with shambolic defending and players all over the place, no organisation there whatsoever at that point.

We needed a calm authoritative figure, somewhere, but it wasn't to be seen.

Not saying the GK should necessarily be that person, but if we don't have one in the back line then it has to be.

Then not sure why are you blaming GK for what happened outside of his control or his area. Outfiled players panicked, if anything someone in defense or midfield should have controlled it better.
 
How training on his days off, mentoring sessions with Gary Neville and the stability of still living at home with mum and dad have turned Tyler Blackett into the great hope at the heart of Manchester United’s defence

At United, they are wary of making long-term predictions but they see a tall, athletic and pacy defender of significant potential. That Blackett is a left-footed centre-half - confident in possession - only adds to the appeal. It is why England scouts will be monitoring his progress closely in the lead-up to Euro 2016.
Blackett is undoubtedly improving and some of the snap judgements that have followed his performance at Leicester betray the work ethic and qualities that have so impressed the coaching staff at United in the past six months.
His dedication and professionalism have been impeccable. On Tuesday, United players were granted a day off but still Blackett came in, determined to push himself, picking over his performances and organising an extra session in the gym.

Blackett does not miss a chance to place himself ahead of his defensive rivals. Last week, the squad went out in Manchester city centre for an organised bonding meal, aimed at uniting the raft of new signings that have arrived this summer. The following day had been scheduled as a free but there Blackett was once more, using everything that Manchester United's hi-tech training ground can offer to further his game.
It is not only his attitude that has struck Van Gaal and his close-knit team of advisors. For a defender, the goals against column is the ultimate measure of success, but coaches have been lifted by Blackett's distribution. At home to QPR, 97.9 per cent of Blackett's 97 passes were successful, a better record than any other United player on the day.

We cannot airbrush the Leicester debacle from the scrapbook, but the one-match suspension against West Ham this weekend and the chance to come up for some air will do Blackett some good.
There has been enormous pressure on the broad shoulders of the 20-year-old defender, who had not played a minute of competitive football for Manchester United before this campaign.
He has now played 443 minutes and is only the defender to have started every game under Van Gaal. At the end of this season, Blackett's contract will expire. United, you would assume, will be looking to tie him down sooner rather than later, especially as uncertainty lingers over the club's desire to stay faithful to their roots and hand opportunities to local talent.
On Sunday evening, when the 20-year-old lay down on his pillow with a whirlwind of thoughts swirling around his young mind, he will have been reassured by the presence of his loved ones.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2769068/How-training-days-turned-Tyler-Blackett-great-hope-Manchester-United.html?ito=social-facebook

Always good to see youngster working even on off days to improve.
 
Then not sure why are you blaming GK for what happened outside of his control or his area. Outfiled players panicked, if anything someone in defense or midfield should have controlled it better.

We need either a commanding goalkeeper or someone commanding in the defence I said, at the moment we have neither.

De Gea has his strengths but communication, organisation and filling his defence with confidence is not any of them IMO.
 
We need either a commanding goalkeeper or someone commanding in the defence I said, at the moment we have neither.

De Gea has his strengths but communication, organisation and filling his defence with confidence is not any of them IMO.

You can put Schmeichel as our GK and the results will be same. When we change CBs every game then you can't fault GK if there is lack of trust or understanding.
 
De Gea lacks communication. But look at him now and look at him 3 years ago. 3 years ago there was zero communication from De Gea. Now he does it, but still not enough. He'll get there I'm sure. He's still young and it's hard to command guys who are 7-8 years older than you. There is probably respect from De Gea, some kind of hierarchy.
 
De Gea lacks communication. But look at him now and look at him 3 years ago. 3 years ago there was zero communication from De Gea. Now he does it, but still not enough. He'll get there I'm sure. He's still young and it's hard to command guys who are 7-8 years older than you. There is probably respect from De Gea, some kind of hierarchy.

I think you missed De Gea giving out to the CBs last season. He was angry and didn't hold back.
 
De Gea lacks communication. But look at him now and look at him 3 years ago. 3 years ago there was zero communication from De Gea. Now he does it, but still not enough. He'll get there I'm sure. He's still young and it's hard to command guys who are 7-8 years older than you. There is probably respect from De Gea, some kind of hierarchy.

True, but we can't have a developing goalkeeper and a developing defence then wonder why we're struggling.

It just totally baffles me right now how we can of put so little focus on the heart of our team by not bringing in an experienced CB of some sort, I'd even of taken Shawcross, not a big name but he offers a lot we're lacking right now.

Even someone like Matip or Howedes from Schalke.

What I'd give to have Vidic still, that collapse wouldn't of happened with him in the heart of our team.
 
Not really, look at Courtois, commands the box much better than De Gea.

Also look at Neuer, Begovic, Lloris.

Saying you have to be 30+ to suddenly do that is rubbish man. He just doesn't come across as one of them goalkeepers.

You do understand I was making reference to your comparison with Van Der Sar, right?

And he does command his box, and talk to the defence. You might want to watch him closely.

Just because he doesnt come across as one, doesnt mean he doesnt do it.
 
That's was frustration when United conceded. Has nothing to do with organization.


Watch him closely, he constantly barks at them. Not a lot he can do if they then lack the composure to listen.
 
We need either a commanding goalkeeper or someone commanding in the defence I said, at the moment we have neither.

De Gea has his strengths but communication, organisation and filling his defence with confidence is not any of them IMO.

If a top shot stopper like De Gea who is constantly talking to you cant fill you with confidence, you probably have a lot to work on as a defender.
 
That's was frustration when United conceded. Has nothing to do with organization.

You said He's still young and it's hard to command guys who are 7-8 years older than you. There is probably respect from De Gea, some kind of hierarchy.When he is not afraid to yell at them I'm not sure he is afraid to say what those guys should be doing.
 
You do understand I was making reference to your comparison with Van Der Sar, right?

And he does command his box, and talk to the defence. You might want to watch him closely.

Just because he doesnt come across as one, doesnt mean he doesnt do it.

I see him vent out frustration but rarely see much else, there is plenty of time I think he can be more active when coming for balls in the box which are crossed in and he chooses to stay on his line, it's little things like that which can have a mental impact on your CB's.
 
I see him vent out frustration but rarely see much else, there is plenty of time I think he can be more active when coming for balls in the box which are crossed in and he chooses to stay on his line, it's little things like that which can have a mental impact on your CB's.

De Gea claimed more crosses than any other keeper in the league last season. What more do you want him to do?!

You keep looking for individuals to drag the team along, when the players themselves need to step up as team.
 
De Gea claimed more crosses than any other keeper in the league last season. What more do you want him to do?!

You keep looking for individuals to drag the team along, when the players themselves need to step up as team.

The players have to be good enough quality in the first place though to achieve the team goals for the season (top 4 if Ed Woodward is believed, 3rd place).

Are you 100% confident with any of our defenders right now to consistently deliver a base to get results from without expecting our attack to score 3-4 every game?
 
Mike, he does it more nowdays. But he still has a lot of work on that segment.

Sunil, there's a difference yelling when you're mad and when you're level headed.
 
The players have to be good enough quality in the first place though to achieve the team goals for the season (top 4 if Ed Woodward is believed, 3rd place).

Are you 100% confident with any of our defenders right now to consistently deliver a base to get results from without expecting our attack to score 3-4 every game?

But what has that got to do with the De Gea?

The players are good enough, whether they are fit enough is another thing entirely.
 
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