The Manchester United Thread

[Alcaraz]

He had a grudge with haaland other than that, name or find me proof when keane has pureposely hurt or injured someone.

And way to twist my words i said he was honest yes but i never made him out to be this nice guy, you plum.

He might be insecure but nothing wrong with that and i think he will always be relevant as one of the greats in the premier league.

Lol how am I supposed to find you proof? Read his mind? The fact that he did it once is bad enough and I wouldn't be surprised if he has done it other times considering the sort of character he is

I don't get how being honest has to do anything with this. I commend him for his 'honesty' but that still doesn't change the fact that he is a bitter and twisted lunatic. Reading some of the **** he says actually even makes me feel sympathetic for SAF

Great player but he is a failed manager who is trying to get himself back in the limelight by taking unnecessary digs at everyone and anyone instead of showing some gratitude which is annoying af

 

[smith123]

Lol how am I supposed to find you proof? Read his mind? The fact that he did it once is bad enough and I wouldn't be surprised if he has done it other times considering the sort of character he is

I don't get how being honest has to do anything with this. I commend him for his 'honesty' but that still doesn't change the fact that he is a bitter and twisted lunatic. Reading some of the **** he says actually even makes me feel sympathetic for SAF

Great player but he is a failed manager who is trying to get himself back in the limelight by taking unnecessary digs at everyone and anyone instead of showing some gratitude which is annoying af

See i don't disagree he is bitter about some stuff i don't even disagree that he is a *****. And it's his book did you expect the media to ignore it? that's why he is in the limelight, him taking digs and his honesty is what will make the book enjoyable.

You laugh at me asking you to find proof on him, well isn't it obviously if he was such a nasty player wanting to hurt people don't you think they'd be vids, reports etc? not rocket science.

 

[Tyton]

Wow. So someone goes and tackles another guy and injures him in retaliation for an incident that happened years ago. Then spends the next decade boasting about what a hard man he is. No hint of remorse for his actions. Don't want to apologise? Fine but at least shut the **** up instead of going around acting like a tough nut

Hold the phone, so he is supposed to speak up and apologize or stop speaking up, which one is it? First you're whining that he didn't apologize, and after I explained how thats a pointless complaint, you're reinventing your argument into something completely opposite and acting like you actually still have something sensible to say?

In immortal words of Confucius - shut the **** up instead of going around acting like a tough nut.

 

[Alcaraz]

Hold the phone, so he is supposed to speak up and apologize or stop speaking up, which one is it? First you're whining that he didn't apologize, and after I explained how thats a pointless complaint, you're reinventing your argument into something completely opposite and acting like you actually still have something sensible to say?

In immortal words of Confucius - shut the **** up instead of going around acting like a tough nut.

Not at all. I made it clear that if he doesn't want to apologize then whatever but at the very least, he can shut up about it instead of going around boasting how tough he is for injuring other players. I am not quite sure why you are having a go at me. Are you defending Keane here because he is an honest **** who speaks utter rubbish?

 

[Tyton]

Not at all. I made it clear that if he doesn't want to apologize then whatever but at the very least, he can shut up about it instead of going around boasting how tough he is for injuring other players. I am not quite sure why you are having a go at me. Are you defending Keane here because he is an honest **** who speaks utter rubbish?

I'm not defending him at all. It just seems that you're desperately fishing for some angle you can be all outraged about, rather then trying to make a legitimate point.

 

[sunilvk7]

Keane is a *****? lol.

 

[Alcaraz]

I'm not defending him at all. It just seems that you're desperately fishing for some angle you can be all outraged about, rather then trying to make a legitimate point.

What angle mate? I am just ****** that he takes a guy out and then can't shut up about how 'hard' that makes him look for the next 10 years. If he can't bring himself to apologize since he is so tough then the least he can do is shut the **** up instead of having needless go's every now and then

 

[Alcaraz]

Keane is a *****? lol.

Want to see hardman Keane go and pick a fight in a council estate ... Bet my savings he would run off with his tail betwen his legs. Roaming around acting like a sociopath in football doesn't make him tough

 

[Sherkey]

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[sunilvk7]

Want to see hardman Keane go and pick a fight in a council estate ... Bet my savings he would run off with his tail betwen his legs. Roaming around acting like a sociopath in football doesn't make him tough

First it was Scholes now it's Keane. Easy to see you haven't got a clue on past players.

 

[sunilvk7]

Want to see hardman Keane go and pick a fight in a council estate ... Bet my savings he would run off with his tail betwen his legs. Roaming around acting like a sociopath in football doesn't make him tough

By this logic all footballers are ******* as they can't fight some random big guys.

 

[Alcaraz]

First it was Scholes now it's Keane. Easy to see you haven't got a clue on past players.

So which aspect of Keane do you think qualifies him as a hardman? His whole 'guts, glory, passion' attitude? Or maybe how he is this whole indomitable lion of a leader of men? Or maybe how he goes in on someone with the intention to hurt them? Or maybe how he refuses to apologize and continues to shoot his gob off calling Haaland a weakling? Or is it the part where he is happy someone has a heart attack?

Read his biography. He admits how he is going through this whole mid-life crisis **** and how writing the book was therapy blah blah blah. Seems to me like he portrays himself as this hard man to escape his own demons and insecurities

People are scared of Keane because he is a nutter not because he is tough. Their is a difference

PS: Also what about Scholes?

By this logic all footballers are ******* as they can't fight some random big guys.

What? Did you understand what I said? I said I doubt Keane is half as tough as he likes to portray himself and he would probably get his *** handed to him if he picked a fight in a council estate. I never said he is a ***** because he can't fight random big guys. I think he is a ***** for an entirely different reason. Stop twisting my words

 

[sunilvk7]

Guy went face to face against physical beast of a players and never backed down. He was an undefeated junior boxer. Yeah he is not tough and just a ***** because a 16 year old on internet said so who never watched Keane in his glory days.

Edit: I'm not. Not really arsed to argue with someone who haven't watched Keane and thinks he can sum up Keane's career on a myth that was busted so many times.

 

[Sherkey]

With some people, you know just by looking that you don't mess around with them... Oliver Kahn, Eric Cantona, Peter Schmeichel... Roy Keane was built on the same mould. He never backed down, was extremely tough both mentally and physically, and always did what he thought was right, never mind what happened then.

You can't really get it if you haven't seen him, Alcaraz, but even his worst enemy would probably call him tough as nails. And not because he is a nutter.

But it is true, you don't get characters like those I mentioned anymore.. Kinda sad..

 

[epic terrorist]

So which aspect of Keane do you think qualifies him as a hardman? His whole 'guts, glory, passion' attitude? Or maybe how he is this whole indomitable lion of a leader of men? Or maybe how he goes in on someone with the intention to hurt them? Or maybe how he refuses to apologize and continues to shoot his gob off calling Haaland a weakling? Or is it the part where he is happy someone has a heart attack?

Read his biography. He admits how he is going through this whole mid-life crisis **** and how writing the book was therapy blah blah blah. Seems to me like he portrays himself as this hard man to escape his own demons and insecurities

People are scared of Keane because he is a nutter not because he is tough. Their is a difference

PS: Also what about Scholes?



What? Did you understand what I said? I said I doubt Keane is half as tough as he likes to portray himself and he would probably get his *** handed to him if he picked a fight in a council estate. I never said he is a ***** because he can't fight random big guys. I think he is a ***** for an entirely different reason. Stop twisting my words

Keane getting his *** handed to him on a council estate is a really silly point to make first of all I am from one and I can tell you there is so called 'hard nuts' and people you would call a '*****' in a disproportionate amount toward the 'fannies' so I am not sure where you are heading with that.

Second being a hard man of football and being a hardman in real life are two separate things entirely, if you made a top 10 list of football hard men from the premier league years Keane would be toward the top of that list no doubt. In the world of football he is no doubt a 'hard man'. I am a Leeds fan and it pains me to say it but Keane was a player I always had a lot of respect for gave 100 percent never sherked a challenge put the team first more than most, was a top professional and did a **** load of charity work that goes under the radar because he likes to keep it low key.

as for the Haaland challenge it gets blown out of proportion because its always been labelled as a career ending injury and it wasn't as Mike said it was the other knee, but what I will say is this if you think that Keane is the only player to ever go in for revenge on a football pitch and intentionally hurt someone I would say you're wrong the only difference is that he was honest about it afterwards.

 

[Sherkey]

Second being a hard man of football and being a hardman in real life are two separate things entirely, if you made a top 10 list of football hard men from the premier league years Keane would be toward the top of that list no doubt. In the world of football he is no doubt a 'hard man'. I am a Leeds fan and it pains me to say it but Keane was a player I always had a lot of respect for gave 100 percent never sherked a challenge put the team first more than most, was a top professional and did a **** load of charity work that goes under the radar because he likes to keep it low key.

as for the Haaland challenge it gets blown out of proportion because its always been labelled as a career ending injury and it wasn't as Mike said it was the other knee, but what I will say is this if you think that Keane is the only player to ever go in for revenge on a football pitch and intentionally hurt someone I would say you're wrong the only difference is that he was honest about it afterwards.

Totally agree;; Even the Haaland thing, it was blown out of proportion because of the previous history between the two. And due to the fact that Haaland publicly lied that Keane's tackle was the cause of his premature retirement.

 

[epic terrorist]

Totally agree;; Even the Haaland thing, it was blown out of proportion because of the previous history between the two. And due to the fact that Haaland publicly lied that Keane's tackle was the cause of his premature retirement.

The thing is if Keane didn't put nothing in his book we then no one would even be arsed and the only time you would see the tackle is on danny dyers top 100 crunching tackles

 

[sunilvk7]

It's a shame that we don't a midfielder like Keane in today's game. People always underrate his attacking game. Forgot the player name (I think Rooney)who recently said that Keane was the best passer he has seen, his short passing was so crisp and the player didn't need to break his stride to receive the pass.

This is what Rooney said:

With Roy, I knew he was a great footballer, but until I played with him I didn’t realize how great.
His passing was probably the best I’ve played with, in terms of getting it to the forward’s feet.
I’d always associated him as someone who got around the pitch making tackles, but his passing blew me away.’

It's a massive praise when it comes from player who played with Scholes, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard. Like I said Roy Keane's short passing was just amazing and his best attributeS that is underrated. Also in Gary Neville's book he clearly said how Keane used to go made if player played the pass which made player to break his stride or if the player took one extra touch to play the pass.

Re the hardman, he was an undefeated junior boxer and tough as nails. He stood out in a era where there were so many hard physical players.

 

[Tyton]

So which aspect of Keane do you think qualifies him as a hardman?

How about his entire life and career?

 

[Jake]

Stand in a room with Roy and his beard and tell him you think he isn't a hardman and see what he does.

Well, maybe not now, he's mellowed somewhat.

Stand in a room with late 90's Keano and tell him. Easy on the internet, but look that man in the eye and tell him? No chance.

Keane won midfield battles with almost every opponent he came up against (Patrick Vieira being the consistent exception) before the teams even took to the pitch. A few choice words in the tunnel, sometimes a steely look, sometimes he didn't even need to do anything such was his reputation, professional footballers, experienced players, grown men, they ran scared of the force of nature that was Roy Keane.

We see less of it now the Sky cameras are not allowed in the tunnel properly. Keane fought most of his battles there, what happened on the pitch was often a simple victory parade.