He's very far away from world class. I'd love to know who you think is world class for sterling not to be far away.
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He's very far away from world class. I'd love to know who you think is world class for sterling not to be far away.
The players you have listed were all established players when signed. Martial is an 18 year old kid who barely had a few Ligue 1 appearances under his belt. The only player I can think of that's comparable is Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain who played just a full season in League 1 before we splashed a hefty 16 million on him.
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He's 19. If he works out, £36m is nothing. If he's here 10 years thats £3.6m a season, and he'd still only be 29 and arguably at his peak. Everyone would have no problem paying £3.6m to have him for one year so just look at it that way and pray he works out.
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I can see why you give that response, I'd be depressed too
This is an incredible fee for somebody who has proven literally nothing in his career, though.. Big difference between him and the others mentioned
Club got itself into goalkeeper clusterfuck with De Gea, because they would rather haggle over pocket change, instead of resolving the situation quickly? Heeey, football is like, bussiness, we need to, like, protect our interests.
Club makes absurdally overpriced signing of an unknown teenager? Heeey we can afford it, we're ******* rich!
Not double standards at all.
Sterling adds another dimension to City, so in my opinion, it will be worth it for them, but there's no way he is World-Class. But he definitely gives them an added dimension in attack and that could really aid in them winning the title this season.
This is what I'm hoping Martial is going to offer us. Time shall tell. We needed something, is he the answer? We'll see.
This is what I'm hoping Martial is going to offer us. Time shall tell. We needed something, is he the answer? We'll see.
Sterling is light years ahead of Martial. He will add something different to your game though, the question is where is the width going to come from? (still...)
If i'm depressed it certainly wouldn't be over football and for the record depression is a serious thing, so yeah.
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Yeah, hope we have our next Andy Cole...upgraded with Usain Bolt legs.
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Everyone talking about the Martial fee but what about £9m for Hernandez but £10m for Borini !!!!! Thats mad
He's developing at a very fast rate. Even the FM database rates him at a world-class ability. It's only a matter of when rather than will at this stage. He's lightning quick, a great dribbler and his productivity in the final third is what separates him and a player like Jesus Navas. He's got a great tactical understanding and intelligence on the pitch, hence SI's own researchers made his current ability, world class. He's played regular premier league football from 17 to 20 and started for England at World Cup finals at the age of 18.
is there?
£28 million matters if the contract is 3 years and you sell him for 14m the next season.
£31 million doesnt matter if he is there for 11 years, scores 238 goals and wins 5 titles and 5 cups including a european one.
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Big 'IF' to gamble such a fee on is all anyone outside of having a Utd interest is saying.
At the minute, it's in-efect unproven, inexperienced 'potential.' He may turn out to be something. He may not. But right here, right now, that's all it is. Inexperienced potential, making a much bigger step up in league. Making his first move away from home. And with Hernandez reputedly going, you're adding that to Rooney who looks a pale shadow of anything he once was, and the similar inexperienced potential in Wilson. What's the difference in adding him into that mix this year than what L'pool have done with Origi? He (Origi) may or may not turn into something, but I very much doubt he contributes much of anything this season. And your about to gamble £36 million on similar. (Not comparing talent there to save that pointless debate. Just the respective, very similar stages of their careers.).
That's all anyone is saying. It's a massive gamble. And one that may well not help Utd out much at all in the interim.
But time will out on all that one way or the other.
That could pay a player 52k per week for 10 years. That's as illogical as saying that Messi's release clause is cheap because it equates to about 2 million per season for a hundred years.
Yes - plus ALL the players they have bought indicate that they are the product of serious and complete planning on behalf of the ****** hierarchy. We on the other hand find ourselves seriously lacking in the "complete" part of the above equation.
Btw some pertinent points made in football365 today:
Manchester United
"Write anything you want," was Van Gaal's angry snipe during his post-match press conference after the 2-1 defeat to Swansea. Thanks Louis, I will.
Van Gaal's Manchester United tenure was never going to be a quick fix, but solutions are only attainable through measured plans, a club plotting its way diligently back to their perch.
Unfortunately, United don't feel like a club with a plan. They look like a confused bluebottle, repeatedly banging into a window whilst looking for the exit. Occasionally they will land on a transfer target, but then soon fly off in order to continue their window-banging policy.
After years of gaps in central midfield, United can now boast a collection of good midfielders, but Van Gaal still seems unsure of his best combination. Bastian Schweinsteiger has struggled so far, whilst Michael Carrick and Ander Herrera have both come in and out of the side.
Further forward, Van Gaal's constant tinkering may be intended to get the best out of his players but it is only serving to turn United's attacking midfield into an incoherent mess. After only four league games, three different players have started in the No. 10 position and two have started on the left. The only constant here is Juan Mata on the right wing, and his lack of pace is slowing down United's attacks chronically.
Yet this isn't the most (or even second most) obvious flaw for United. The goalkeeping situation (described as "an absolute joke" by Peter Schmeichel) has been allowed to fester, with De Gea still hoping to join Real Madrid. The Spaniard is thought to be unhappy at the way Van Gaal publicly hinted that his goalkeeper wasn't giving his all in training, and there is surely no route back into the No. 1 spot. This follows Van Gaal's character assassination of Victor Valdes.
It is in attack where the majority of Van Gaal's problems lie. "First you have to create chances, with scoring goals you need luck, that we don't have at the moment," the Dutchman said after the Swansea defeat. "You see the game today, we could have scored much more. I don't think that's the problem."
Sometimes you just have to call something out as b**locks. If Van Gaal honestly thinks that United's striking woes are down to simple luck, then United are in far more trouble than we first thought. It's impossible to escape the feeling that his post-match comments were soaked in the Moyes-era of United.
Van Gaal took the opportunity of reaffirming his trust and faith in Wayne Rooney before the Swansea game, but United's strikeforce looks weaker than it has ever been in the Premier League era. Even if Rooney was firing, having Javier Hernandez and Marouane Fellaini as the two back-up forward is a strategy based only in misguided optimism. Throwing around bids for Charlie Austin and Anthony Martial at totals approaching £50m for the pair with 48 hours of the window left add weight to the notion that Ed Woodward's negligence has held the club back through the last two years.The big-money pursuits of Gareth Bale, Thomas Muller and Neymar acted as nothing more than distraction techniques to keep fans on side.
Yet Van Gaal must too take a fair portion of the blame. United have spent a vast amount of money in the last 18 months, yet the overwhelming impression is still of a collection of individuals rather than a team. Swansea hammered home the importance of the collective on Sunday, and that is the mantra to which Van Gaal must now aspire.
Having outcast some of his players and placed misguided trust in others, Van Gaal is going about that aim in unconventional fashion. We were promised a title challenge remember, Louis.
Wayne Rooney
Imagine a hat-trick against Club Brugge not being the signifier that Rooney was back. Who knew?
Still, it was good to see United's leader losing the ball with a poor pass before standing on the spot and moaning rather than tracking back. Six seconds later, Swansea were level. A captain's role.
Sergio Romero
De Gea's Real Madrid saga may be leaving an ever-increasing sour taste in the mouth, but absence certainly makes the heart grow fonder. Romero's performance against Swansea hammered home the conclusion we were all thinking anyway: The Argentinean simply isn't good enough to be Manchester United's No. 1.
If there is an assumption among some that a team can get away with an inadequate goalkeeper, this was emphatic evidence to the contrary. A goalkeeper can make the difference between a team winning and losing, but more importantly gives belief to those playing in front of him. That was the air of invincibility De Gea provided last season.
With Romero, things could not be different. On multiple occasions on Sunday his kicking went awry, one shanked effort giving Jonjo Shelvey the chance to lob him. He also juggled with the odd cross, but saved his biggest error for Swansea's second goal. Being beaten at your near post is one thing, but allowing the ball to squirm past you quite another. It will not do.
"Until now, we don't allow a lot of shots or moments in our area," Van Gaal said on Friday. "He has made very good saves, but until now, I think only maybe the save against Brugge at 1-0 was very important and he did also a save against Tottenham Hotspur and that was it. He has not been able to show what he can do."
Well Louis, now you know. So get that executive vice-chairman you trust so much do something about it.
Read back, that's not what people are saying at all. Pretty much everyone from the start saying it's a gamble. The fee isn't really relevant, but that's all people focus on. It would make zero difference to United's situation if it was 3.6m
If you can't see how the fee doesn't matter in this instance then we might as well move on
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No gamble here, bros.
I've signed the wonderkid, 16 yo Rooney on a free in CM0203, who became a superstar. Did the same with the 18 yo wonderkid Martial in FM14, who became a superstar too, a goal-machine.
Anybody?
United just cut their wage bill massively. Before anything else that comes into effect thats nearly 50m freed up