The Manchester United Thread

[MANUMAD]

36m is an absolutely ridiculous amount, I am sorry but there are so many players you could have got instead, maybe not right now but earlier in the window rather than waiting till today. Bad timing by United really whichever way you look at it.

Yes - if that would not be a panic buy I dont know what would. And a stupid one at that as he's quite raw and unproven and thats not what we need. Ok he's better now than WILSON but is that enuff?

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Read back, that's not what people are saying at all. Pretty much everyone from the start saying it's a gamble. The fee isn't really relevant, but that's all people focus on. It would make zero difference to United's situation if it was 3.6m

If you can't see how the fee doesn't matter in this instance then we might as well move on

If you won't acknowledge it's a gamble regardless of how you rich you currently are or not then we may as well.

Hope the gamble pay's off you.

 

[steveorobbo]

That could pay a player 52k per week for 10 years. That's as illogical as saying that Messi's release clause is cheap because it equates to about 2 million per season for a hundred years.

Its nothing like that at all. 100 years? Im not even going to get into a debate after that statement lol

 

[MANUMAD]

Bar getting robbed blind on Sterling but no need to revisit that again.

Thats the EPITOME of delusion on your part. He's already showing his brilliance for them unfortunately.

 

[zzeezzy]

Sterling is light years ahead of Martial. He will add something different to your game though, the question is where is the width going to come from? (still...)

Probably right, but when you say Sterling is 'light years ahead' what you actually mean is one good season in the Premier League away from being hyped the way Sterling was and sold onto an extortionate amount in todays market.

Honestly Sterling hasn't even done much to be 'light years' ahead of Martial but I'd agree he is further ahead, just not as you put it. Both involved internationally as well, Martial is competing in a tougher squad if you ask me in that regard against better players around his age as well to get into that setup is impressive in itself at 18/19 whatever he is.

 

[Mike.]

If you won't acknowledge it's a gamble regardless of how you rich you currently are or not then we may as well.

Hope the gamble pay's off you.

Pretty silly thing to say when my answer to zzezzy was this:

It's going to be asking a lot of him to be 2nd choice. Technically is he upto it? without question, but let's just say its a good thing there are a lot of leaders and experienced heads now in the squad. He is incredibly quick and composed, and a good finisher. Excellent movement and close control. Plays upfront, behind the striker, and wide. Stretches play a lot. He's also only play 60 games in his first team career. The issue isnt buying him, but rather you should be looking at someone with 160 under their belt

 

[damola3]

Read back, that's not what people are saying at all. Pretty much everyone from the start saying it's a gamble. The fee isn't really relevant, but that's all people focus on. It would make zero difference to United's situation if it was 3.6m

If you can't see how the fee doesn't matter in this instance then we might as well move on

He has 11 goals in 49 league appearances at the age of 19 and has scored 32 goals in 21 under 17 appearances. SI's researchers rate his potential. Benzema and Lacazette were scoring similar amounts at that level. It's not a bad signing, however he shouldn't go for more than 20 million. Imagine if Chuba Akpom costed that much! The purchaser would get a hammering!

 

[sunilvk7]

Whenever ManUtd sign any player, we have some or the other excuses.

Rather have players in the squad than money in the bank.

Also people moan when ManUtd don't sign any player and they also moan when they sign just because it's not the perfect deal or how they imagined deal should be.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Thats the EPITOME of delusion on your part. He's already showing his brilliance for them unfortunately.

Lightening speed does not brilliance equate. Yeah, he's given them an new option over the top. But for what you're trying to make him out to be, he wouldn't of missed the chances he has already.

 

[MANUMAD]

Imo that has to be Petr Cech. A legendary keeper signed from rivals for virtually nothing, who can win us the league.

We REALLY need to upgrade the site with more options other than "like" to quickly laugh at posts like this with no hassle.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Pretty silly thing to say when my answer to zzezzy was this:

Then what was the reply quoting my post more or less saying it wasn't the gamble that everyone else is saying and the fee was immaterial?

Or did something get lost in translation?

 

[MANUMAD]

Club got itself into goalkeeper clusterfuck with De Gea, because they would rather haggle over pocket change, instead of resolving the situation quickly? Heeey, football is like, bussiness, we need to, like, protect our interests.

Club makes absurdally overpriced signing of an unknown teenager? Heeey we can afford it, we're ******* rich!

Not double standards at all.

You KNOW that the DDG "saga" is not about the price so dont act otherwise ...

 

[Mike.]

Then what was the reply quoting my post more or less saying it wasn't the gamble that everyone else is saying and the fee was immaterial?

Or did something get lost in translation?

The fee is irrelevant to United's, what he offers and what they need

whether he is 3.6 or 36m, the same pros and cons are still there.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

You KNOW that the DDG "saga" is not about the price so dont act otherwise ...

I think he was alluding to his contract situation not being sorted already but I may be wrong.

 

[sunilvk7]

You KNOW that the DDG "saga" is not about the price so dont act otherwise ...

Don't bother.

 

[damola3]

Probably right, but when you say Sterling is 'light years ahead' what you actually mean is one good season in the Premier League away from being hyped the way Sterling was and sold onto an extortionate amount in todays market.

Honestly Sterling hasn't even done much to be 'light years' ahead of Martial but I'd agree he is further ahead, just not as you put it. Both involved internationally as well, Martial is competing in a tougher squad if you ask me in that regard against better players around his age as well to get into that setup is impressive in itself at 18/19 whatever he is.

Sterling has played regular premier league football for 3 seasons at a top team with 43 more appearances than Martial. He's also started at World Cup finals at the age of 18, which Martial will never do. He's also won the European Golden boy at 19. Only Eden Hazard and Mesut Özil have created more chances in a European league at that age than Sterling.

 

[Tyton]

SI's researchers rate his potential. !

What the ****, man. You do realize that when we're referencing FM stats of a player, this is just a forum in-joke?

Nobody should take FM as a serious argument towards a signing. Its just a video game, SI gets things wrong all the time. Remember when in FM11 they overrated Siggurosson and he was chain winning Ballon d'Or over Ronaldo and Messi? Speaking of Ronaldo and Messi, for last 5 years SI has been trying, and failing, to make Messi better, but Ronaldo always ends up breaking the engine. So yeah.

 

[WJ]

Then what was the reply quoting my post more or less saying it wasn't the gamble that everyone else is saying and the fee was immaterial?

The player is the gamble. That he's expected to be 2nd choice at an unproven 19 years old, is a gamble. The fee makes it more of a gamble, but looking at the bigger picture, the fee is irrelevant. United need a striker.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

The fee is irrelevant to United's, what he offers and what they need

whether he is 3.6 or 36m, the same pros and cons are still there.

Thank you. And, well, yeah, naturally. Goes with any transfer.

Just far greater a gamble with the bigger fee.

Maybe he turns out to be something special and his future value dwarfs that and makes a great investment. But right here, right now, I don't see how this isn't anything more than a very expensive version of bringing Origi into the squad. Both lightning quick. Both young and inexperienced. Both making a massive step up to a new level of football in a completely new Country.

I wouldn't expect much more output from either player this year. (The future is a whole other thing. I hold out little hope on Origi but that's another issue.). And right here, right now, with your serious dirth of outright centre forward options, the future is not what you need to be gambling the big money on IMHO.

I aren't sure Austin for example is Utd quality if truth be told. But at least he's a proven goalscorer in England you could rely on to plug and play.

The tribulations of leaving things to the last minute of a window.

 

[Alcaraz]

Came on her to engage in my favourite past time of trolling the United thread over the fee paid for Martial. Realized that others got there before me



I kid. My views on fees have changed. At first I used to think Chelsea shouldn't overpay for players myself. But after seeing the cluster **** of this window, I rather see Pogba on the pitch wearing blue rather than the £80m sitting in the Russians bank account