True, that's why I don't really want Mourinho. Then again you can say which manager right now does fit our profile? Can you really see the current set of players we have playing the type of football Pep likes? I can't. Well not to the level good enough that would win major silverware.
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True, that's why I don't really want Mourinho. Then again you can say which manager right now does fit our profile? Can you really see the current set of players we have playing the type of football Pep likes? I can't. Well not to the level good enough that would win major silverware.
That doesn't make Mourinho the right option though. Ideally it would be Simeone but it's going to be tough to make him leave Atletico. Otherwise Pochettino and Emery are excellent options. You lot really should have gone after Ancelloti and Pep. As I said, no idea what Woody has been up to
That's really easy: Pep Guardiola.
Yes I kind of misworded my post, I know Guardiola fits our manager profile better than those we've recently discussed like Mourinho. What I meant was that I can't see our players fitting that right now, not playing it to the level that would be required to win the big silverware anyway.
Some one uploaded the video. It was after the game when Van Gaal was heading back to dressing room. Boooos followed by Jose chants.
Your woodward bashing is just ridiculous.
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Fair enough, must have missed it. Heard the deafening boos though.
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What do you actually expect him to do?
No it isn't. If they were uncertain about Van Gaal for a while now ( and these things don't happen just overnight) and they let Ancelotti and Guardiola slip, they're idiots.
Look how Bayern does business for god's sake.
They had Pep announced and signed up in January, while Heykenss still had 5 months in the job, and they had Ancelotti signed up in December, while Pep still has 6 months in the job.
That's a profesionally run club for you. Longterm strategy and stability above all else.
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Yeah but there's a massive difference in replacing an outgoing manager at contract end, over firing and hiring mid season due to results. Bayern have had the luxury of not having to be dealing with any of the issues LVG or the fans have with him.
Of course there's a difference, but figuring it out isn't exactly nuclear physics. Line up your prefered replacement for the summer, and bring seasoned manager to steer ship clear in the short term. Works just fine at Chelsea last time I checked.
The noodles part was tongue in cheek. But the blame does lie at his door if he misses out on Pep and Ancelloti
To be fair, the uncertainty over LVG probably only became concrete in the past month. Nonetheless, they should still have spent time cultivating Pep or Ancelloti so that they were front runners when LVG inevitably left. I mean LVG was always going to be a short term option unlike Mourinho whom Chelsea thought would stay for a long time
My feeling is that Woody probably felt the United brand name is enough and Pep/Ancelloti would jump at the chance to coach them whenever he came calling. It could still happen but he made the job much harder for himself
And if you are exceedingly lucky, the interim managers might end up winning European trophies for you as well
Third times the charm eh Guus
No it doesn't stop being stupid.
Do you want him to talk to every manager about the possibility of managing Man Utd at some point. "Oh hey pep, we want to have you as our manager. When you ask? Oh whenever we decided that we're going to sack our current manager. What do you mean that's stupid?"
We weren't planning on sacking LVG this season. We wanted him to build the foundations for 3 years, and then retire. This is his 2nd year so the idea that we would need a new manager wasn't really on the cards until recently.
Bayern probably knew before this season even started that Pep wants a new challenge so started to look for a new manager since then so that's how they got Ancelloti.
Man Utd are in the same situation as Chelsea. We didn't expect to be in the need of a manager so didn't line one up. That's why Pep and Ancelotti probably won't end up at either.
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Dude are you even hearing yourself. You claim they hired LVG for a three year project explicity. That means it was on Woodwards shoulders to find a manager willing to take over for the long term after LVG laid the foundations. He can't just wait for LVG to finish three years and then start looking for a manager. What does he do if all are snapped up?
In cases like this when you need to phase out LVG early, get a seasoned manager in to steer club through the season and then accelerate Pep/Ancelloti's arrival. It was clear as daylight that Pep will come to England after Germany and Ancelloti won't stay at Madrid forever. So United should have started talks early to put themselves into front-runner position once LVG's term expired after three years
Its practically the exact thing that City have done. They liked Pelligerini but were always prepared to let him go for Pep. That's why they started to cultivate Pep early to make sure they are front of the queue when he decided to go to England.
Now if you expected LVG to stay for long term then that's a completely different story and Woodward is absolved of any blame
And it's why City talk to Messi'a advisers so much. They don't actually expect to get him but they have started to cultivate a long-term relationship so that if ever on the off chance that Messi decides to leave Barcelona for another European club, they will be the first option
Hold on, isn't that exactly what United are doing with Bale, Ronaldo, Neymar and god knows who else
Hold on, isn't that exactly what United are doing with Bale, Ronaldo, Neymar and god knows who else
We probably had an idea and was talking to a few managers about taking over from LVG when he retires. Perhaps we even had someone lined up and had others say they can't wait 2 years (pep or ancelotti).
You can't just blame Woodward because he hasn't told every manager in the world "Hey you should manage Man Utd. Don't worry about when. Just promise us you'll manager Man Utd whenever we ask"