The Manchester United Thread

[Mike.]

Fairy nuff, I'll have a look later.

I know he supports Celtic, just thought maybe he was one of those "fans" with two teams. Clearly not.

Shoddy refereeing is nothing new.. And it's not been happening just this week, month, even just this season. But then again, we have the ability to analyse everything over and over, no wonder we give the officials such a hard time these days.



I'm just going on what they were saying on Sky Sports.

Agreed but some of the decisions this week are the very basic ones, that's what I find very hard to accept. The FA need to stop pretending refs are untouchable, and either hold them to higher standards, or give them technological help.

 

[Mike.]

Is this the same club that got 2 poor decisions at Chelsea at the weekend and even had an apology by the cheif of refs which is something i have never seen before!!!!!

Indeed, 2 poor ones last week against them, 3 in their favour tonight. But they were the better side.

 

[Joel`]

Agreed but some of the decisions this week are the very basic ones, that's what I find very hard to accept. The FA need to stop pretending refs are untouchable, and either hold them to higher standards, or give them technological help.

If they need technological help for the decisions they've been getting wrong recently, we may as well just completely replace them by technology. Useless.

 

[maxy67]

Fairy nuff, I'll have a look later.

I know he supports Celtic, just thought maybe he was one of those "fans" with two teams. Clearly not.

Shoddy refereeing is nothing new.. And it's not been happening just this week, month, even just this season. But then again, we have the ability to analyse everything over and over, no wonder we give the officials such a hard time these days.



I'm just going on what they were saying on Sky Sports.

I'm not Rod Stewart I don't support celtic and united lol.

I agree with you about the ability to analyse everything over and over. I'd like to be of the Brian Clough school of thought and respect the refs etc. But TV analysing everything makes it a bit hard not to give them stick.

 

[CJACKO11]

Indeed, 2 poor ones last week against them, 3 in their favour tonight. But they were the better side.

Was always going to happen mate. I didn't see the game but fair play if they deserved to win but that still dosen't excuse the fa of the way they handle things.

 

[craig curtis]

next to games are big now need to win these home games think will be hard game for city aginst norwich away at dinner time always tricky game at that time

 

[Mike.]

Was always going to happen mate. I didn't see the game but fair play if they deserved to win but that still dosen't excuse the fa of the way they handle things.

Indeed, 2 wrongs don't make a right, it just makes everyone lost faith. Refs aren't perfect but they are supposed to be professional, and some of these decisions are ridiculous.

 

[sunilvk7]

Agreed but some of the decisions this week are the very basic ones, that's what I find very hard to accept. The FA need to stop pretending refs are untouchable, and either hold them to higher standards, or give them technological help.

FA allowing refs to be blamed will only increases the pressure on refs and it wont do any good. Mistakes are always bound to happen and yes this last 2 weeks there are many wrong decisions but they make decisions in split seconds and whereas we analyze after watching so many replays from so many angles.

They are after all humans. FA shouldn't put any more pressure imo.

 

[Mike.]

FA allowing refs to be blamed will only increases the pressure on refs and it wont do any good. Mistakes are always bound to happen and yes this last 2 weeks there are many wrong decisions but they make decisions in split seconds and whereas we analyze after watching so many replays from so many angles.

They are after all humans. FA shouldn't put any more pressure imo.

They need to be held to a higher standard, never said anything about blame. Some of the decisions have been basic ones, and totally wrong. One thing on the tight 50/50 calls, another thing entirely when 3 players are 3 yards offside. Or when a player is a yard and half offside and he is 10 feet in front of you.

 

[JDY]

To be fair the Wigan decisions last week were down to the linesman, not the referee. And he was 'punished' as he was dropped from Liverpool's game yesterday, so hardly untouchable.

 

[Joel`]

FA allowing refs to be blamed will only increases the pressure on refs and it wont do any good. Mistakes are always bound to happen and yes this last 2 weeks there are many wrong decisions but they make decisions in split seconds and whereas we analyze after watching so many replays from so many angles.

They are after all humans. FA shouldn't put any more pressure imo.

In any decent job you're going to be put under pressure if you fail to perform. Usually I'll support them, but it's not hairline offsides/goal line clearances or calling a penalty in a crowded box from 30 yards away we're talking about here. We're talking simple, basic decisions.

 

[sunilvk7]

They need to be held to a higher standard, never said anything about blame. Some of the decisions have been basic ones, and totally wrong. One thing on the tight 50/50 calls, another thing entirely when 3 players are 3 yards offside. Or when a player is a yard and half offside and he is 10 feet in front of you.

In any decent job you're going to be put under pressure if you fail to perform. Usually I'll support them, but it's not hairline offsides/goal line clearances or calling a penalty in a crowded box from 30 yards away we're talking about here. We're talking simple, basic decisions.

I understand what you both are saying but putting pressure wont help matters either.

Joel, they get most of the decisions right and few wrong. They will never get praises for all the correct decisions and will get abused for wrong ones, it doesn't matter how tough the decision will be.

I'm not saying about these easy decisions, my point is more about Refs in general.

Also in any decent job your every move wont be watched and scrutinized. You wont be under pressure from 40000 people cheering/jeering at you and getting abused by 20 odd players for every decision.,

 

[Joel`]

I understand what you both are saying but putting pressure wont help matters either.

Joel, they get most of the decisions right and few wrong. They will never get praises for all the correct decisions and will get abused for wrong ones, it doesn't matter how tough the decision will be.

I'm not saying about these easy decisions, my point is more about Refs in general.

Football must be the only profession in the world then where underperformance is rewarded. Again, it's SIMPLE decisions that you should be expected to make at this level. There's literally millions at stake, and to fail at these most basic of decisions is unacceptable. If you can't handle that, then you should be fired.

 

[Ride The Walrus]

33 points out of a possible 35 in this current streak is not luck.

But we have been very poor against Wigan.

I just mean the offside dive penalty, Fulham penalty incident, and then that Wigan goal. Not seen it myself, so I can't judge, but from what I hear. Obviously it's not all luck, but the last few matches, there's been a fair bit of luck in there.

 

[Mike.]

I just mean the offside dive penalty, Fulham penalty incident, and then that Wigan goal. Not seen it myself, so I can't judge, but from what I hear. Obviously it's not all luck, but the last few matches, there's been a fair bit of luck in there.

Wigan had 3 calls go their way in this game. We've had plenty go for and against us this season. It's a bit annoying when people only talk about it when it goes our way, and not against. Does our season a disservice.

 

[Joel`]

I understand what you both are saying but putting pressure wont help matters either.

Joel, they get most of the decisions right and few wrong. They will never get praises for all the correct decisions and will get abused for wrong ones, it doesn't matter how tough the decision will be.

I'm not saying about these easy decisions, my point is more about Refs in general.

Also in any decent job your every move wont be watched and scrutinized. You wont be under pressure from 40000 people cheering/jeering at you and getting abused by 20 odd players for every decision.,

Please. If you can't handle that, then don't take the job. It's like becoming a journalist if you can't handle writing to deadlines. Becoming an investment banker when you can't handle financial targets. A politician if you're not willing to be criticised by the nation and the press. In all of those jobs you're gonna have your pants down and have bits torn out of you in front of the whole office/nation if you **** up.

 

[sunilvk7]

Football must be the only profession in the world then where underperformance is rewarded. Again, it's SIMPLE decisions that you should be expected to make at this level. There's literally millions at stake, and to fail at these most basic of decisions is unacceptable. If you can't handle that, then you should be fired.

I'm not saying Underperformers should be rewarded, just that FA saying something wont do any good, it would just add unnecessary distraction. They do demote refs who does horribly, but if they do for every decision or every game then we wont have any refs left for the games. There aren't better in other leagues too and never was. It was always same just that media are over playing it.

Again I'm not saying about basic decisions, I'm talking about refs in general. I dont know why you are missing that.

 

[Joel`]

I'm not saying Underperformers should be rewarded, just that FA saying something wont do any good, it would just add unnecessary distraction. They do demote refs who does horribly, but if they do for every decision or every game then we wont have any refs left for the games. There aren't better in other leagues too and never was. It was always same just that media are over playing it.

Again I'm not saying about basic decisions, I'm talking about refs in general. I dont know why you are missing that.

And I'm talking about basic decisions. I never brought up general refereeing, so I don't know why you're arguing on that point.

 

[sunilvk7]

Please. If you can't handle that, then don't take the job. It's like becoming a journalist if you can't handle writing to deadlines. Becoming an investment banker when you can't handle financial targets. A politician if you're not willing to be criticised by the nation and the press. In all of those jobs you're gonna have your pants down and have bits torn out of you in front of the whole office/nation if you **** up.

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree then. Good luck finding decent refs though

I go with Great Clough's words.

 

[Ride The Walrus]

Wigan had 3 calls go their way in this game. We've had plenty go for and against us this season. It's a bit annoying when people only talk about it when it goes our way, and not against. Does our season a disservice.

As I said, I've not seen the match, so I couldn't judge. when I made that post, those calls were not reported on.
And yes, of course, but in the last two weeks, you've had a fair amount of key decisions go your way, that's all.