The Manchester United Thread

[RhQQ]

To be fair, these are exactly the types of games you want/expect a £90m player to shine, so I can't really argue with any media criticism. I don't overly care if he impresses against a weakened Southampton (so long as we win), or whatever flicks & fouls he drew against Hull, I want him to stamp down his authority in the middle of the park against our biggest title rivals. There were times when he got on the ball in the first half, drove at the players, and I thought he will eventually make something happen in the second half when his team mates pull their socks and get him on the ball more, but as the game went on, and the more we needed someone like him to get on the ball, look for it, dictate the tempo, drive forward, he, it had to be said, almost shied away from it. Whereas Rooney, despite all the criticism he gets, wanted the ball everywhere, tried to make things happen even if he hasn't quite got the pace & agility of 5 years ago, his passion & drive was clear, he even almost clocked Pep when he tried to waste a few seconds on the throw in hahaha. Don't get me wrong about Pogba, the world class ability is there for all to be seen, but he has still a lot to learn and will still need a little bit of time to settle under this price-tag pressure.

I really hope in 6 months we'll be able to be arrogant di**heads and be able to turn around and say; "About Pogba... you were saying?" (H)

 

[Mike.]

To be fair, these are exactly the types of games you want/expect a £90m player to shine, so I can't really argue with any media criticism. I don't overly care if he impresses against a weakened Southampton (so long as we win), or whatever flicks & fouls he drew against Hull, I want him to stamp down his authority in the middle of the park against our biggest title rivals. There were times when he got on the ball in the first half, drove at the players, and I thought he will eventually make something happen in the second half when his team mates pull their socks and get him on the ball more, but as the game went on, and the more we needed someone like him to get on the ball, look for it, dictate the tempo, drive forward, he, it had to be said, almost shied away from it. Whereas Rooney, despite all the criticism he gets, wanted the ball everywhere, tried to make things happen even if he hasn't quite got the pace & agility of 5 years ago, his passion & drive was clear, he even almost clocked Pep when he tried to waste a few seconds on the throw in hahaha. Don't get me wrong about Pogba, the world class ability is there for all to be seen, but he has still a lot to learn and will still need a little bit of time to settle under this price-tag pressure.

I really hope in 6 months we'll be able to be arrogant di**heads and be able to turn around and say; "About Pogba... you were saying?" (H)

Criticism is one thing, talking about his hair is ridiculous though.

 

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[RhQQ]

Criticism is one thing, talking about his hair is ridiculous though.

He can wear a wig for all I care, so long as he ups his game to the level in which we know he can.

 

[Alcaraz]

Criticism is one thing, talking about his hair is ridiculous though.

Its the same thing with Depay. No one likes to see some flash footballer changing his hairstyle on the whim and walking around in clothes that drip with money when economic times are so bad. So when such footballers fail on the pitch, the media will jump on them.

I personally find nothing ridiculous about it. Pogba willingly potrays his personal life and shows off his hairstyles to the outside world. So its all fair play if the media wants to use that as a stick to beat him with. If he does not like the criticism, don't open up all this to media scrutiny and then maybe he can have my sympathy.

 

[Alcaraz]

What has his haircuts got to do with his performance?

I've seen this kind of thing, with him, Memphis, and Sterling, and it's quite frankly getting a bit sinister.

Because its gives the perception that he is arrogant and no one likes an arrogant person from any profession. When said person cannot back up it up with performances, the media will undoubtedly jump on him more harshly than others. Its the same for across all professions in the world.

Ever wondered why Mata is not so vehemently criticized when he flops? Because he is a humble, simple and likeable guy so media goes easy on him.

 

[Mike.]

Its the same thing with Depay. No one likes to see some flash footballer changing his hairstyle on the whim and walking around in clothes that drip with money when economic times are so bad. So when such footballers fail on the pitch, the media will jump on them.

I personally find nothing ridiculous about it. Pogba willingly potrays his personal life and shows off his hairstyles to the outside world. So its all fair play if the media wants to use that as a stick to beat him with. If he does not like the criticism, don't open up all this to media scrutiny and then maybe he can have my sympathy.

Lots of footballers do it. Why is it only black footballers get pinged for it? Depay isnt even a huge earner. Pogba doesn't actually portray much at all about his personal life.

They dont open themselves up to it either. You're basically blaming the victim for people being idiots.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Anyways thinking on to Thursday vs Feyernoord what's people's thoughts on line ups? Would Like to see nearly all players rested after today's game, they was out on there feet by the 95m.


DDG
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[Legend Incredible]

Because its gives the perception that he is arrogant and no one likes an arrogant person from any profession. When said person cannot back up it up with performances, the media will undoubtedly jump on him more harshly than others. Its the same for across all professions in the world.

Ever wondered why Mata is not so vehemently criticized when he flops? Because he is a humble, simple and likeable guy so media goes easy on him.

You're on point mate.

If you talk a big game then, you sure as **** need to back it up.

Ibrahimovic can thank his stars he scored today...otherwise the media would've been all over him too.

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[Mike.]

You're on point mate.

If you talk a big game then, you sure as **** need to back it up.

Ibrahimovic can thank his stars he scored today...otherwise the media would've been all over him too.

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He hasn't talked anything. Only zlatan has and he's 3 in 3

 

[RhQQ]

Anyways thinking on to Thursday vs Feyernoord what's people's thoughts on line ups? Would Like to see nearly all players rested after today's game, they was out on there feet by the 95m.


DDG
TFM-Smalling-Jones-Darmian
Schniderlin-Herrera
Memphis-Mky-Martial
Rashord

I would expect Lingard to be featured heavily in this game, showed today he badly needs minutes in his legs.

I agree with your statement about players needing this rest, especially after the international duties, but was it just me or did Valencia seem the least affected even though he had the most legitimate excuse to feel groggy? (Just flew in yesterday from South America).

Bailly looked absolutely legless near the end, he had another decent performance.

 

[Chelski Shogun]

You're on point mate.

If you talk a big game then, you sure as **** need to back it up.

Ibrahimovic can thank his stars he scored today...otherwise the media would've been all over him too.

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He hasn't talked a big game though (at least not to my knowledge). He's just spoke about winning, but he seems humble enough. Pogba's certainly nothing like Zlatan. However I get why people might think he's arrogant.

 

[RhQQ]

He hasn't talked a big game though (at least not to my knowledge). He's just spoke about winning, but he seems humble enough. Pogba's certainly nothing like Zlatan. However I get why people might think he's arrogant.

To be honest, listening to a few of his interviews, I was surprised as to how humble Paul Pogba is. He's just a bit of a class clown, but I don't think it's arrogance.

 

[Mike.]

He hasn't talked a big game though (at least not to my knowledge). He's just spoke about winning, but he seems humble enough. Pogba's certainly nothing like Zlatan. However I get why people might think he's arrogant.

That's the point. He's actually quite quietly spoken. One of the things that Jose will aim to change about him.

 

[damola3]

I could see this happening all day. United were totally dominated in the first half. As I predicted before, United would find it hard to get out of their area and have chances 1 on 1 with the central defenders. Otamendi and Stones are good one on one and that payed into City's hands. I thought Mourinho might implement a high press and that didn't happen. That's what went wrong. In virtually every league he's been in, the only sides that have any luck against Pep implement the high press to stop them from playing out of the back. United were dysfunctional with the ball from deep and didn't have any raw pace other than Miki. Lingard is quick but not as quick as Rashford or Martial. Rooney isn't physically equipped anymore to play against a Guardiola side. Miki should have been no 10 with Rashford and Martial out wide. United were tactically poor and lucky not to be finished early.

 

[Legend Incredible]

He hasn't talked a big game though (at least not to my knowledge). He's just spoke about winning, but he seems humble enough. Pogba's certainly nothing like Zlatan. However I get why people might think he's arrogant.

The guy mailed a trainers kit to Claudio bravo.

The media won't mock that cos he scored.

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[damola3]

He hasn't talked a big game though (at least not to my knowledge). He's just spoke about winning, but he seems humble enough. Pogba's certainly nothing like Zlatan. However I get why people might think he's arrogant.

It's really irrelevent. All top players have to have arrogance about them and they all do. They all believe that they are better than the opposition. Hairstyle doesn't matter. It doesn't cause bad football performances. Reminds me when our players were taking a battering from media for taking selfies in the dressing room i.e. Being more concerned with taking pictures than getting results. This is absurd and irrelevent.

 

[Chelski Shogun]

That's the point. He's actually quite quietly spoken. One of the things that Jose will aim to change about him.

No doubt. But having watched his first interview with United TV and the one with Henry, he just comes across as a mommy's boy.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

I would expect Lingard to be featured heavily in this game, showed today he badly needs minutes in his legs.

I agree with your statement about players needing this rest, especially after the international duties, but was it just me or did Valencia seem the least affected even though he had the most legitimate excuse to feel groggy? (Just flew in yesterday from South America).

Bailly looked absolutely legless near the end, he had another decent performance.

Valencia is just a physical freak lol absolute beast. I expected Bailly to tire after the big AFCON qualifiers, still played well though and gave his all for 95 mins. Yeah I agree Lingard needs mins, but think Mou will want to give some fringe players time for fitness and game time to keep squad happy. Look at the quality we have if Mou don't start giving the like of Mata, Schniederlin, Memphis, Darmian etc games he's gonna have a lot of unhappy players sat around not playing.