The Manchester United Thread

[Tyton]

Trusting Rooney was the downfall of both Moyes and LVG, and Mou needs to learn from their mistakes if he wants to do better.

 

[Tyton]

When it comes to your Pogba situation, it makes me think young Gerrard. Gerrard was much tougher mentally, while Pogba has superior technical ability, but otherwise they have very similar characteristics. Both fantastic athletes, with determination to drive forward, well rounded skillset in all aspects of the game, wicked long shot, but lacking in tactical discipline.

If you build your team around a guy like that he will repay you tenfold, but if you try to fit him into some preexisting tactical scheme, it's a waste.

 

[Mike.]

I don't know, considering the extent of character assassination club pulled on LVG, it's not exactly a stretch to assume they might have done the same to his most trusted lieutenant. Those leaks didn't leak themselves.

The sidelining of Schneiderlin is another mystery, neither Van Gaal nor Mou seem to trust him, and **** if I understand why. He's better defensively then Fellaini and has far superior passing range.

Thursday could change a lot of that. Worth seeing the team he puts out.

 

[RedUnited]

Hoping for this, but don't think he'll make 11 changes for Feyenoord

ST: Rashford

LM: Memphis
LCM: Herrera
RCM: Schneiderlin
RM: Young

CDM: Carrick

LB: Rojo
LCB: Jones
RCB: Smalling
RB: Darmian

GK: Romero

Bench: Zlatan, Mata, Mkhi, Lingard, Blind, Bailly, De Gea

 

[damola3]

Well that's not really true, how often do you see Kroos dribbling or doing fancy flicks? Sure, he play a Holywood pass, but his primary concern is to keep the ball moving and always be available for a pass. Pivot player needs to be reliable first of all. You would never see Carrick or Alonso flipping the ball over people's head in a situation where simple short pass will do the job.

Lots of players do although they do it at the right time. I can think of Verratti, Modric, Kroos, Rakitic and Cazorla who's seen a late transition to central midfield. All very rarely lose the ball and decent dribblers. There are lots of deep midfielders that dribble but pick their moments at better times.

This sounds exactly like the situation at Arsenal. You play Ramsey who bombs foward at every opportunity or Cazorla at Central midfield. Ramsey is box to box while Cazorla dictates play from deep. Pogba is good on the ball but he won't dictate play from deep. He's got to learn that part of his game.

 

[Equilibrio]

With double pivots, it is all about balance and co-ordination between the 2 in the pivot, their roles need to be clear cut.Look at Matic and Fabregas from Chelsea's title win.Fabregas dictated play and provided creativity while Matic held up his part as defensive muscle.According to me, we didn't need Pogba in the first place but, if he is to be accommodated in a pivot, he needs to take up a stronger defensive role and have someone behind him dictating play(Carrick or Basti), not with a fellaini.Martial and Mkhitaryan need to be playing more, so does Rashford, they are the best players we have, Rooney really has to be transitioned now..

Zlatan
Martial Rashford. Mkhitaryan
Carrick. Pogba
Shaw. Bailly Smalling Darmian
Ddg
As much of a good player Bailly is, we all must agree that Aggressive, strong Centre back wasn't the kind of centre back we needed, we already have Smalling for that.This is what I see as a mistake by Mourinho and the transfer team, the failure to bring in a sleeker, faster cover CB(like Rugani) and the resultant over-reliance on Blind..The worst thing is, he isn't the first to make that mistake

 

[Mike.]

With double pivots, it is all about balance and co-ordination between the 2 in the pivot, their roles need to be clear cut.Look at Matic and Fabregas from Chelsea's title win.Fabregas dictated play and provided creativity while Matic held up his part as defensive muscle.According to me, we didn't need Pogba in the first place but, if he is to be accommodated in a pivot, he needs to take up a stronger defensive role and have someone behind him dictating play(Carrick or Basti), not with a fellaini.Martial and Mkhitaryan need to be playing more, so does Rashford, they are the best players we have, Rooney really has to be transitioned now..

Zlatan
Martial Rashford. Mkhitaryan
Carrick. Pogba
Shaw. Bailly Smalling Darmian
Ddg
As much of a good player Bailly is, we all must agree that Aggressive, strong Centre back wasn't the kind of centre back we needed, we already have Smalling for that.This is what I see as a mistake by Mourinho and the transfer team, the failure to bring in a sleeker, faster cover CB(like Rugani) and the resultant over-reliance on Blind..The worst thing is, he isn't the first to make that mistake

Disagree on both counts. Bailly also has excellent distribution.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Hoping for this, but don't think he'll make 11 changes for Feyenoord

ST: Rashford

LM: Memphis
LCM: Herrera
RCM: Schneiderlin
RM: Young

CDM: Carrick

LB: Rojo
LCB: Jones
RCB: Smalling
RB: Darmian

GK: Romero

Bench: Zlatan, Mata, Mkhi, Lingard, Blind, Bailly, De Gea

No Martial? I would have him instead of Zlatan. Would also start DDG. What about TFM?

 

[RhQQ]

Disagree on both counts. Bailly also has excellent distribution.

And has incredible pace for a centre half.

 

[Mike.]

And has incredible pace for a centre half.

He's no Blind (who passes better than most midfielders, being one himself), but he can definitely play out of defence.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

He's no Blind (who passes better than most midfielders, being one himself), but he can definitely play out of defence.

Would love to see Blind as the DM in a 3 man midfield.

 

[Mike.]

truth is, doesnt matter if its 2 man or 3 man.

Rooney needs to be removed from the equation in midfield.

 

[wkdsoul]

truth is, doesnt matter if its 2 man or 3 man.

Rooney needs to be removed from the equation in midfield.

You'll poach Dele Ali within 2 years most likely. doesnt help now of course..

 

[djs1]

truth is, doesnt matter if its 2 man or 3 man.

Rooney needs to be removed from the equation in midfield.

totally agree.The time has come for wayne to accept he is going to have a lesser role than he is used to

 

[Theatre of dreams]

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[steveorobbo]

1-0 Harrop

 

[Theatre of dreams]

1-0 Harrop

Side starting to look good now Joyce has found a system that works for a squad so unbalanced. Riley, Poole, Harrop have been great!

 

[steveorobbo]

Side starting to look good now Joyce has found a system that works for a squad so unbalanced. Riley, Poole, Harrop have been great!

Yeh Riley been excellent so far. Tuenzebe makes everything looks so easy. He looks like he's walking round the pitch.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Tusnzebe has been good tonight, but Poole has been like Vidic reincarnate absolutely everywhere blocks, tackles, interceptions, headers. MOTM easily with 10 mins still to go. Hamilton been great on the left.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Fantastic result and great performance. Everyone at least 8/10 apart from the Poole who was beast like and my MOTM. Harrop and Hamilton were good attacking outlets and was a very good goal and finish by Harrop. Good to see some players from the u18s in there like Olesunde, Kehinde who both look like good talents. And nice that new signing O'Conner rewarded with a place in the squad. Even more impressive that we beat last years champs and are far more experienced and an older team.