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Alexis Sanchez not playing for United tonight. Hasn’t travelled to Brighton. Mata, Rashford, Martial all start according to various outlets


 
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No width on the left coz martial/rashford keeps coming too far inside and rashford/martial not going out wide when the other comes in. Young is on his own.

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Wtf was Rashford doing he had the easiest square ball to Martial for a clean shot on goal.

Rashford, Martial, Pogba all been absolutely dog **** so far! No wonder Mourinho looks ******. Can see a couple getting dragged around HT.
 
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Martial AND Rashford on at the same time.. I don't think my brain can handle this.. :'(
 
I'd put Lingard on for Martial, maybe not at HT but sooner rather than later
 
Wtf was Rashford doing he had the easiest square ball to Martial for a clean shot on goal.

Rashford, Martial, Pogba all been absolutely dog **** so far! No wonder Mourinho looks ******. Can see a couple getting dragged around HT.

The setup doesn't help them anyway. When martial is collecting the ball at the half way line so many times, there's obviously something wrong with the setup. I would take fellaini and matic off before martial and rashford anyway, been literal ****. Fellaini, all he knows is to pass it to the opposition, how is mourinho begging him to stay? Matic is so ******* slow in the buildup that he allows the opposition to regain control, just pass it faster, instead of taking 10 touches. Anyway, fielding a backline of smalling, young and darmian is criminal in itself. If all your defenders only know how to hoof it up the pitch, how do you expect to get up the pitch? Plus, they can't even defend, how many times has young been out of position? Does darmian even know how to attack? Pogba, only one that knows how to carry the ball and make runs from our midfield, but his passing been abysmal this match. Rashford opportunity was disgraceful, he's so braindead at times.
 
The setup doesn't help them anyway. When martial is collecting the ball at the half way line so many times, there's obviously something wrong with the setup. I would take fellaini and matic off before martial and rashford anyway, been literal ****. Fellaini, all he knows is to pass it to the opposition, how is mourinho begging him to stay? Matic is so ******* slow in the buildup that he allows the opposition to regain control, just pass it faster, instead of taking 10 touches. Anyway, fielding a backline of smalling, young and darmian is criminal in itself. If all your defenders only know how to hoof it up the pitch, how do you expect to get up the pitch? Plus, they can't even defend, how many times has young been out of position? Does darmian even know how to attack? Pogba, only one that knows how to carry the ball and make runs from our midfield, but his passing been abysmal this match. Rashford opportunity was disgraceful, he's so braindead at times.
How is Martial coming deep and off the wing anything but a Martial problem. Matic problem is that his two partners are leaving him exposed all the time and his attacking players are standing there like statues. Tonight’s just proving how important Lukaku is to us.
 
How is Martial coming deep and off the wing anything but a Martial problem. Matic problem is that his two partners are leaving him exposed all the time and his attacking players are standing there like statues. Tonight’s just proving how important Lukaku is to us.

Lukaku and Alexis missed big time
 
Well that was *****. This team so weak mentally. We have lost to all 3 promoted sides this season and 1 that’s gonna get relegated. Really missed Tony V, Lukaku, Sanchez, Jones, Bailly tonight. The rest except Lingard and Matic can’t seem to be arsed half the time. If that’s what Jose is seeing from Martial in training then goodbye! Pogba another game that’s summed up god time here. Was better in the second half, but shouldn’t have to take us going a goal down for him to get his **** in gear. Can see why Darmian is going terrible FB in all aspects. Least Shaw was good when he came on. Will still finish second but will likely not see any youngsters now as we still need 4 points. And still confident we will turn up for the final.
 
How is Martial coming deep and off the wing anything but a Martial problem. Matic problem is that his two partners are leaving him exposed all the time and his attacking players are standing there like statues. Tonight’s just proving how important Lukaku is to us.

He has to come deep because the buildup play is so slow that either we lose the ball before we get to him or lump it up the pitch. A slow set up like that forces him to come deep at the half way line to get the ball. Bar the last 20 mins where we went all out attack, he got the ball on the wing such few times. Matic is part of the buildup problem, do you not see him talking 10 touches before passing? That allows the opposition to recover, basically killing our counters and other attacks. Lukaku is important, no doubt, but would he have made a difference tonight? When the team is 1-0, 2-0 down, rarely does he come up with a goal to get us back in the game or score the equalizer. He likes to score the goal that makes it 3-0, 4-0, 2-0, rarely the decisive goal.

Anyway, this match shows us the same problems that were in the newcastle game, the west brom game, the Huddersfield game. Our set up is too slow and lethargic, this stems from the manager. The players he starts such as young, smalling, darmian, valencia are not good enough anymore or never were. I hope these matches have showed all utd fans that our defence is not actually good, we rely on De gea every match to save us. Good, defensive football is the likes of what atletico (not recently) and juventus are doing. That's what you call a good setup, not ours. It's a myth that we are good defensively, de gea is the one preventing us from conceding so many goals.

We need new full backs, 1 defender to pair with bailly and need to sell the deadwood. Deadwood including valencia (finished now), young, darmian, shaw, smalling, jones (maybe), fellaini and so many more. We will never progress if we give fellaini another contract and keep other bad players. Now, obviously Mourinho won't sell them all, but he cannot play them anymore next season if he wants to win the title. One more season is what I will give mou, but if he keeps making the same mistakes over and over again such as buying only 3 players, playing the deadwood and refusing to play more expansive football, he has to go. Defensive football is ok as long as it wins important trophies like the champions league and league titles, but not ok if all we are winning is the small trophies.
 
He has to come deep because the buildup play is so slow that either we lose the ball before we get to him or lump it up the pitch. A slow set up like that forces him to come deep at the half way line to get the ball. Bar the last 20 mins where we went all out attack, he got the ball on the wing such few times. Matic is part of the buildup problem, do you not see him talking 10 touches before passing? That allows the opposition to recover, basically killing our counters and other attacks. Lukaku is important, no doubt, but would he have made a difference tonight? When the team is 1-0, 2-0 down, rarely does he come up with a goal to get us back in the game or score the equalizer. He likes to score the goal that makes it 3-0, 4-0, 2-0, rarely the decisive goal.

Anyway, this match shows us the same problems that were in the newcastle game, the west brom game, the Huddersfield game. Our set up is too slow and lethargic, this stems from the manager. The players he starts such as young, smalling, darmian, valencia are not good enough anymore or never were. I hope these matches have showed all utd fans that our defence is not actually good, we rely on De gea every match to save us. Good, defensive football is the likes of what atletico (not recently) and juventus are doing. That's what you call a good setup, not ours. It's a myth that we are good defensively, de gea is the one preventing us from conceding so many goals.

We need new full backs, 1 defender to pair with bailly and need to sell the deadwood. Deadwood including valencia (finished now), young, darmian, shaw, smalling, jones (maybe), fellaini and so many more. We will never progress if we give fellaini another contract and keep other bad players. Now, obviously Mourinho won't sell them all, but he cannot play them anymore next season if he wants to win the title. One more season is what I will give mou, but if he keeps making the same mistakes over and over again such as buying only 3 players, playing the deadwood and refusing to play more expansive football, he has to go. Defensive football is ok as long as it wins important trophies like the champions league and league titles, but not ok if all we are winning is the small trophies.
Matic takes so long because there is absolutely no movement in front of him from anyone especially the attacking players. We didn’t have any counters because Pogba kept giving the ball away and our attacking players were all like cardboard cut outs. Lukaku would have made a huge difference with his hold up play, runs in behind and ability to keep CBS occupied with runs or strength.

I agree we have a few players that are not good enough to be starters here but most the ones you mentioned are good enough squad players and especially against the newly promoted teams and relegation fodder. We defo do need new FBs in the summer. We actually don’t really need to sign more than 3/4 players. But they need to be quality and hopefully have the correct attitude to play for a club like Utd against any opponents.
 
In more brighter news -

Congratulations to both @jgarnerr96 and @EthanLaird1 who both played 90 minutes in the 2-1 victory over Isreal with Jimmy captaining the team. Laird gave away a peno but was very good otherwise making some great challenges. And Garner was just pure class and controlled the game.
 
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OUT: Martial, Mata, Blind, Darmian, Jones, Rojo.

( Wish Smalling went as well, but I think Mou likes him. And we need a RB as well but think Young and Valencia will stay for next season.)

IN: LB, CB, CM, RW and a CF

Hoping for a big squad clear out this summer, probably won't be cause it's the World Cup. But as Memphis Depays tattoo says: #Dream #Believe #Achieve
 
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OUT: Martial, Mata, Blind, Darmian, Jones, Rojo.

( Wish Smalling went as well, but I think Mou likes him. And we need a RB as well but think Young and Valencia will stay for next season.)

IN: LB, CB, CM, RW and a CF

Hoping for a big squad clear out this summer, probably won't be cause it's the World Cup. But as Memphis Depays tattoo says: #Dream #Believe #Achieve

Nonsense, wanting martial out after one game. He has the potential to become one of the best players in the world. Also, if you want martial out, why not rashford then? Rashford was much worse than martial today and he has been much worse throughout the season. Or Is it just because he is a local lad and deserves less criticism than martial? Very reactive thing to suggest martial out. In addition, there are many more players that we should be looking to get rid off than martial. Young, valencia, smalling, shaw and mou's favourite in fellaini. Also, can we really risk losing out on a high potential player in martial when mou's record with salah, kdb and lukaku has shown us that he is a poor judge of talent. His record with youth players shows that it will definitely come to bit us. Ridiculous to even suggest selling him.
 
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OUT: Martial, Mata, Blind, Darmian, Jones, Rojo.

( Wish Smalling went as well, but I think Mou likes him. And we need a RB as well but think Young and Valencia will stay for next season.)

IN: LB, CB, CM, RW and a CF

Hoping for a big squad clear out this summer, probably won't be cause it's the World Cup. But as Memphis Depays tattoo says: #Dream #Believe #Achieve
No way should Jones, Mata, Rojo leave Rojo was good last night made some crucial blocks and is the only natural LF cb we have. Yeah no way atm would I let Martial go. He was **** last night and his inconsistentcy is frustrating as heck same for Pogba. They both need to get there **** together though!

Smalling, Blind, Darmian, Romero, Carrick, Fellani should all be gone imo and then most the u23s. 2x FBs 2x CMs and I will be happy this summer and loan players returning or a couple youth promoted.
 
Good luck to the u18s today in the North v South champions final. Ramanzani, Laird, Garner, Puigmal all missing for Utd due to the u17s Euros and Barlow is injured. Chelsea not weakened nowneat as much as only Redan is missing. Gonna be a tough match especially as Chelsea are bringing down a fair few players that have been u23 regulars this season.

Predicted line up

Fjoiticek
Tanner-Dunne-Oconner-Williams
Traore-Levitt
Chong-Gomes-Burkart
Greenwood

Subs- Kovar, Dishon, Baars, Mellor, McGee, Galbraith

was close with my line up Galbraith instead of Traore and Kovar instead of Fjoitcek
 
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Lost 3-0. 2goals conceded from set pieces. Missed 3/4 really good chances. Everyone played well tbh especially Gomes after being injured most the season. We defo missed our players who are away. And Chelsea are more developed and older than our players.
 
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