The Manchester United Thread

Good news about fergie being out of intensive care, hope he continues to recover well
 
Valencia hasn't been as good as he was last season this year. His goals weren't bad, but his crossing seems to have gotten worse. As for Young, he was great in the first half of the season, but in 2018 he's been inconsistent defensively. I wouldn't sell either one of them, but I'd be disappointed if they're our first choice full backs next season.

I didn't want us to sign Darmian, but I never expected him to be this awful, he's got to go. Shaw on the other hand is still in his early 20s, so really we shouldn't be giving up on him yet. Considering the way Jose has treated him though, I can't say I'd blame Luke if he wanted to go.
 
Great news about Fergie!

I'm not against developing players, but you must have a balanced squad. I think we have many players with a lot of room to grow (Martial, Rashford, Mctominay, Shaw, Lindelof, Lingaard) and some players that will never live up to the promise of when we bought them (Jones, Smalling, Herrera).Most of our already established players are useful to have in a squad, but are far from elite (Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Mata,Rojo). ****, i can even arguethat Pogba, Lukaku and Bailly, some of our finest talents, have some room to improve and are not the finished article.

We need to add more quality and depth to the squad. We also need to buy better, that's undeniable. We need a world class CB since Vidic and Ferdinand left (remember when we offer a load of money for Hummels and Ramos under LVG?). We also signed a lot of CM that didn't fix our problems (Fellaini, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger). Chelsea, City and Liverpool(kinda) are smarter than us going to the market.
 
From embargoed presser-

Jose Mourinho on Paul Pogba: “I can give the guarantee I don't want him to leave. I can give you the guarantee that the club doesn't want to sell and I can give the guarantee that we don't have any approach from him, his agent or any club. In this moment, for me, he is staying.”

Jose Mourinho on if his players have mental capacity to bridge gap to Man City: “Some players I am totally convinced that they are going to make it, some I have good hopes that they are going to make it and some others I don’t believe are going to make it.”

Jose said,no way Rashford goes on loan next season "he impresses me"...
 
Best joke today

Just seen that Wayne Rooney has been to visit Sir Alex Ferguson.
'His speech is improving and he can now string a sentence together,' said Fergie
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ENGLAND U17's: Final group game in Euro U17's 2018.


England v Switzerland
19:00
Once again live on ITV 4


Good luck @EthanLaird1 & @jgarnerr96

Both been Fanta so far in first 2 games. With Garner getting motm in the first.
 
I like it. Looks like Mou is preparing already for the FA cup final with this lineup as West Ham play same formation as Chelsea!
 
10 mins gone Smalling has made 2 horrendous mistakes!

Good effort Mctominay and then Lingard. **** how did we not score there another 2 great efforts from Sanchez and Shaw in quick succession. 2 very good saves tbf! Smalling looked like a fifty year old there against Arnoutavic :O

Not bad first half lack of intensity but we have had good moments. Apart from Smalling being absolutely terrible and Jones looking nervous. Everyone has played pretty well. Valencia end product is awful though. Sanchez and especially Shaw been great.
 
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Sanches has been good. However, he's the striker in this game yet he's not playing as one. There's no one to lead the line. Solution? Get Smalling off and bring Martial in (Rash might be better option). That way you might get Martial a bit happier, or to cement him as deadwood. If you want to keep 3 at the back, get Lingard off. You need someone to lead the line.
 
5 at the back is such a bore. Trying things out for the FA Cup final no doubt, but it'll want to be 10x better than that. Sanchez the only attacker that looked anywhere near half lively. Shaw had a good game too, as did Lindelof.
 
Proper meh second half. Clearly trying things for the final. Mourinho wanted a point to secure 2nd place and got it. Let’s have a good send off on Sunday with a few youngsters on the bench. Shaw, Lindelöf, Sanchez all very good tonight.
 
Im all for the improvement. 2nd place (any other season we would have challenged till the end) and an fa cup final, but seriously now this next season has got to be the last for jose unless performances massively improve. After this summer window when he gets more players he wants and removes the dead wood from previous managers, if performances dont improve I really dont see how he can stay and we think its acceptable.

Im not saying we have to destroy teams every week but our football this season I cant even put into words most of the time. Tonight just topped it off. West Ham had nothing to play for. We had 2nd place to secure. And from the first kick off we looked like we was simply playing for the one point to secure it and happy to just get it. The bare minimum. That is not Manchester United. That is not a performance one of the "supposedly" best teams in the world should be displaying against relegation fodder of the league that have nothing to play for and players coming in trying to earn a cup final place.

Is it the players playing this way or is it the managers instructions? I really cant work it out. Professional players on £50k-£250k a week should know how to read a game in play and know how to beat a team well below their level regardless of manager instructions or "game-plan". I honestly cant get my head around why we have been putting in these same ***** performances for the majority of the season. First couple of months aside, its been nothing but ***** and the standard of performance is completely unacceptable to me.
 
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