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Finished 5-0 the u23s 9/10 performances from everyone. Good times ahead with these young talents and under Woods and Fortune.

See Martial got his #9 back :)

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's two other summer buys, Daniel James and Aaron Wan-Bissaka, have been allocated no.21 and no.29 respectively.

Meanwhile, Angel Gomes and Mason Greenwood have been officially assigned to the shirts they were wearing during the squad's pre-season tour with Angel in no.28 and Mason donning no.26.


1: David De Gea
2: Victor Lindelof
3: Eric Bailly
4: Phil Jones
5: Harry Maguire
6: Paul Pogba
7: Alexis Sanchez
8: Juan Mata
9: Anthony Martial
10: Marcus Rashford
12: Chris Smalling
13: Lee Grant
14: Jesse Lingard
15: Andreas Pereira
16: Marcos Rojo
17: Fred
18: Ashley Young
20: Diogo Dalot
21: Daniel James
22: Sergio Romero
23: Luke Shaw
24: Tim Fosu-Mensah
26: Mason Greenwood
28: Angel Gomes
29: Aaron Wan-Bissaka
31: Nemanja Matic
36: Matteo Darmian
37: James Garner
38: Axel Tuanzebe
39: Scott McTominay
40: Joel Pereira
44: Tahith Chong
 
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That aside, I honestly think Gomes will have more chances in CM this season. Maybe deputising for Pogba in Cups occasionally (or coming off as a sub for Pereira). I like Mata much better, and Gomes, for all his short build, is surprisingly physical at times, and has a tackle in him. Plus, he can take the ball and drive it forward. So, I reckon he will be introduced in the team this season, but barring an injury crisis up-top, it is more likely he is seen as a CM.

But yeah, zZ, Gomes is not better than Mata at #10, as it stands. However, it is a great opportunity to learn from both Pogba and Mata, with a view to eventually replacing one of them (Mata?)
 
U18s vs Sunderland today


At Aon Training complex
Kick-off at 12:30pm
Live on MUTV


1st League game of the Season for the #Mufc u18s today:
United v Sunderland at Carrington (12.30ko)
(Today’s team sheet)



 
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Why dont you start xyz youngster? In this case Gomes. Well thats because in football world, when compared to someone like Mata, he's nobody. Mata is much better football player from what we saw in last 2 years. But the great thing is - we have a manager who will drop someone like Mata and without doubt give the chance to someone like Gomez if the former does not perform. And the best thing is - Gomes will get his chance regardless of Mata, its just question will he take it and make that spot his.
 
Vanjagl said:
Why dont you start xyz youngster? In this case Gomes. Well thats because in football world, when compared to someone like Mata, he's nobody. Mata is much better football player from what we saw in last 2 years. But the great thing is - we have a manager who will drop someone like Mata and without doubt give the chance to someone like Gomez if the former does not perform. And the best thing is - Gomes will get his chance regardless of Mata, its just question will he take it and make that spot his.
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Nailed it
 
U18s 2-0 up atm goals from McCann and Elanga. Carrick, McKenna, Ole, Fortune, **** watching checking out the next batch of talent coming through.

Like what I’m seeing from last night and this morning. Same high intensity high pressing attacking football as Ole wants to play with the first team. 4231 also. Looks like the club is now in sync at all levels.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
U18s 2-0 up atm goals from McCann and Elanga. Carrick, McKenna, Ole, Fortune, **** watching checking out the next batch of talent coming through.

Like what I’m seeing from last night and this morning. Same high intensity high pressing attacking football as Ole wants to play with the first team. 4231 also. Looks like the club is now in sync at all levels.
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Only about 30 years behind Barcelona and about 40 behind Ajax. Better late than never eh lol
 
steveorobbo said:
Only about 30 years behind Barcelona and about 40 behind Ajax. Better late than never eh lol
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Finished 3-0. Elanga was absolutely incredible. Won’t be in the u18s long if he keeps up that kind of performance. Mengi stood out at CB. Nice to see new signing Hoogewerf get some mins. And Shola Shortire who I would say is on the same level talent wise as Greenwood playing well ahead of his years. Lot of talent at every age group now and not just good talent, top talent.
 
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Finished 3-0. Elanga was absolutely incredible. Won’t be in the u18s long if he keeps up that kind of performance. Mengi stood out at CB. Nice to see new signing Hoogewerf get some mins. And Shola Shortire who I would say is on the same level talent wise as Greenwood playing well ahead of his years. Lot of talent at every age group now and not just good talent, top talent.
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We really need to stick with this structure now. The blueprint has been there since Ajax all them years ago and for whatever reason we haven't really replicated it (class of 92 days aside). Only Barca have made a go of it but no surprise with Cruyff.

This is probably the biggest reason why a DOF is so important. Not just for first team transfers, but to keep that philosophy through the full club so the transition is minimal. Focus on making our own play the same football as the first team from a young age and the transfers take care of themselves.

Should have been done straight away after Fergie. 6 years of chopping and changing managers. Different philosophy's and styles. Spending then sacking so left with a squad not fitting the new managers philosophy. Was on the right track with Van Gaal.

Before we sign another player for this squad we need to get a DOF in. The style Ole is playing and how he's trying to transform the club top to bottom is the way to go. But we need that link. Somebody on the same page that will continue this after Ole. And keep it going for years. That's more important than signing any player

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steveorobbo said:
We really need to stick with this structure now. The blueprint has been there since Ajax all them years ago and for whatever reason we haven't really replicated it (class of 92 days aside). Only Barca have made a go of it but no surprise with Cruyff.

This is probably the biggest reason why a DOF is so important. Not just for first team transfers, but to keep that philosophy through the full club so the transition is minimal. Focus on making our own play the same football as the first team from a young age and the transfers take care of themselves.

Should have been done straight away after Fergie. 6 years of chopping and changing managers. Different philosophy's and styles. Spending then sacking so left with a squad not fitting the new managers philosophy. Was on the right track with Van Gaal.

Before we sign another player for this squad we need to get a DOF in. The style Ole is playing and how he's trying to transform the club top to bottom is the way to go. But we need that link. Somebody on the same page that will continue this after Ole. And keep it going for years. That's more important than signing any player

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Think we are not necessarily going the DOF route but a structure that will accomplish the same thing. The foundations are already set now at academy level for what your asking for. And now with Nicky Butts new role being that true connection and link between getting the right players from the academy into the first team working closely with Ole and his team now, the hard parts done. Now we need to complete the committee to work along with Ole and his team for first team recruitment and we will be in a very strong place going forward.
 
From the embargo part of the presser.



On promoting youth instead of signing new players
"You can call it a gamble. I am just staying true to what I believe in. I believe in this way of managing a football club.

I am paid to manage for the club and it is not just about me getting results now to get my reputation or whatever.

It is about the club going forward in the right direction. If we don’t make these decisions now, they will have to be done in 12 months’ time or 18 months or 24 months because at some point these kids will have to be a part of Manchester United. That has always been the case."


On youth getting chances
"That is a fair reflection (that young players will be given a chance). They have impressed over the last six weeks and in the months before the summer. That is why they went on tour and that is why we have given them so many minutes.

It is not fair on them to be regulars in this team. Of course, we have got experienced players, but they will come in and give us something extra."

On Maguire and van Dijk comparisons
"I don’t want to compare us to Liverpool or Harry to van Dijk. But I know Harry is going to have a massive impact on us, yes.

Already this week when he has been in, you can see the impact he has got as a presence in the group.

I’m delighted we have got Harry in because he’s going to be great for this club. He was always my number one target.

He has already shown what a presence he will be and what an impact he will have in the squad. He’s a leader, an established international, a goal threat and a very, very good defender - but also a very composed ball player."​
 
Ole: “I’d like to think you will see what kind of team we want to be, the intensity we want. It’s not going to be functioning perfectly straight away. Hopefully, you should see the signs of the team I would want to be in, say, 12 months.” #mufc [Guardian]
 
Delighted u23s GK Paul Wooston and CB Luca Ercolani have signed new deals. Both been very good and consistent for the last couple seasons.

And very very happy these players now have full clearance to play. At u18s/16s

GK Johan Guandagbo(16) from Bronby in Sweden
ST Dillion Hergwoorf(16) from Ajax
AM/CM/WIN Mateo Majia(16) from Zaragoza

Now just waiting for these to get clearance after also signing this Summer.

CM Hannibal Mejbri(16) from Lyon
CB Bojan Hardley(16) from Breda in Holland
 
DDG, AWB, Maguire, Lindeløf, Shaw, Mctominey, Periera, Pogba, Lingard, Martial, Rashford. Exciting line up!

Tuanzebe, Greenwood on the bench.
 
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