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Scouseinthehouse said:
See I'd say Pochetino suits them more. He's one of the very few coaches you could drop straight in and not have to have a complete squad do-over from the specific style of players Guardiola needs.
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Pochettino would never work at United. His best work comes when he has a solid structure over him such as at saints and Spurs for a while before the DOF left. When he is left to his own devices and allowed to be a manager and not a coach then it can go **** up.
 
Vanjagl said:
This is true, but, BUT listen to my story when I was 17yo.
I approached this girl and askes her would she like to date, and she said to me sure, I like you, but I like someone better and I'd like to try with them first, then he doesn't like me, we can date. Normally I told her to **** off.
What Pogba said is probably worse. He's been liability this whole season and his 'golden form' quickely evaporaded after Burno initial impact. Then he said he dreams to play for Real Madrid, but I like United, just not as much after he lost 6-1 at Old Trafford to Tottenham.
Beyond dumb from him.
Best thing is, United do not need him anymore.
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I can see why some people could get easily there knickers in a twist with what he said. But players say stuff like that all the time. It’s like when fans get upset about shirt numbers lol. That’s the good thing we actually don’t rely on him anymore. Bruno has taken the creative burden off him and VdB could easily come in and replace him now.
 
dilakh2 said:
Pochettino would never work at United. His best work comes when he has a solid structure over him such as at saints and Spurs for a while before the DOF left. When he is left to his own devices and allowed to be a manager and not a coach then it can go **** up.
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Klopp could come here mate and it would go **** up. Far to much wrong with the club above. Can’t keep blaming the managers every year or 2.
 
dilakh2 said:
Pochettino would never work at United. His best work comes when he has a solid structure over him such as at saints and Spurs for a while before the DOF left. When he is left to his own devices and allowed to be a manager and not a coach then it can go **** up.
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NO coach is working under the Glaziers/ Woodward amateur hour structure mate. They are what they are and are disappearing into the same obscurity we did, in reality, the majority of the past 30-years.

But he's as good as they could possibly turn to before City swoop to at least give them exciting football to watch and make the most out of what they have.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
NO coach is working under the Glaziers/ Woodward amateur hour structure mate. They are what they are and are disappearing into the same obscurity we did, in reality, the majority of the past 30-years.

But he's as good as they could possibly turn to before City swoop to at least give them exciting football to watch and make the most out of what they have.
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I’m not Poch biggest fan. But it’s sad when we all know he would come in get a new coach bounce get backed for one window. Get CL followed by not being back then getting the sack a few months later ?
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
I’m not Poch biggest fan. But it’s sad when we all know he would come in get a new coach bounce get backed for one window. Get CL followed by not being back then getting the sack a few months later ?
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He's a far better coach than just someone who gets's a 'bounce' reaction mate. What he did at Tottenham on a minimal spend testifies to that. He'd doubtless get Utd to a consistent CL level which isn't the case right now. I might be wrong, but I'd be really surprised if he's not headed to City. He's far more out of the Guardiola mode to make that transition possible without a major playing personnel change whilst the Gladbach and Leipzig guys are way more out of Klopp's.

But yeah, the problem comes taking that on further under the current structure. Nobody is going to do that. And nobody better than Pocchetino is taking it on whilst the club is as messed up as it is.

It's just a perpetual cycle of going nowhere but I doubt he'd get binned quickly as the owners are only interested in the CL money lining their pockets.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
NO coach is working under the Glaziers/ Woodward amateur hour structure mate. They are what they are and are disappearing into the same obscurity we did, in reality, the majority of the past 30-years.

But he's as good as they could possibly turn to before City swoop to at least give them exciting football to watch and make the most out of what they have.
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If I was United I'd get Nagelsmann he js the next one up. Then again like you said with the amateurs above any coach that comes to united nothing will change.
 
dilakh2 said:
If I was United I'd get Nagelsmann he js the next one up. .....
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Or more so the Gladbach coach who's as much a mirror image of Kloppo as anything coming out of Germany. They really are producing some top-notch young, coaching talent right now.

That cycle has come around again in Germany with a vengeance. Although it does all beg the question as to just how that humongous fraud Tuchel keeps blagging it like?
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Or more so the Gladbach coach who's as much a mirror image of Kloppo as anything coming out of Germany. They really are producing some top-notch young, coaching talent right now.

That cycle has come around again in Germany with a vengeance. Although it does all beg the question as to just how that humongous fraud Tuchel keeps blagging it like?
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Hahaha, why do you hate Tuchel with a vengeance?

But regarding Nagelsmann or Rose, I believe atleast one of them will end up at Bayern after Flick (how soon depends on how this season goes for them). Ideally, Nagelsmann/Rose with Rangnick as DoF would be a dream combination, but sadly, that will never happen.

I really would like Poch though, remains to be seen.
 
He's an arrogant snake oil salesman who has this convoluted opinion of himself that he's better than he ever was.

Somehow managed to take Klopps Dortmund down a level stylistically messing around with a system that worked perfectly. Whilst having an absolutely atrocious defeat to Klopp's L'pool 3-1 up at Anfield the second leg with three away goals to L'pool's 1. (4-2 on Agg.) He someone managed to lose that advantage with 20 mins to go. The fella is tactically inept.

Then somehow he gets the Paris gig. Where you'd have to be completely simple to not walk the French League. Whilst going on to take them to some EPIC failures in the CL. Which FAR better managers have been binned for.

He hasn't succeeded when he's been handed a seamless succession on a plate. Or when he's had a whole State backing him financially. Christ knows how much worse he'd be if he had to actually coach/ build a side!

I'm at a complete loss as to how he's getting big gigs as a coach. I reckon he's got the same stash of compromising photies on big club owners as Choupo-Moting! I honestly don't know how else to explain it!
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
I can see why some people could get easily there knickers in a twist with what he said. But players say stuff like that all the time. It’s like when fans get upset about shirt numbers lol. That’s the good thing we actually don’t rely on him anymore. Bruno has taken the creative burden off him and VdB could easily come in and replace him now.
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When and how he said it is the problem here.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
He's a far better coach than just someone who gets's a 'bounce' reaction mate. What he did at Tottenham on a minimal spend testifies to that. He'd doubtless get Utd to a consistent CL level which isn't the case right now. I might be wrong, but I'd be really surprised if he's not headed to City. He's far more out of the Guardiola mode to make that transition possible without a major playing personnel change whilst the Gladbach and Leipzig guys are way more out of Klopp's.

But yeah, the problem comes taking that on further under the current structure. Nobody is going to do that. And nobody better than Pocchetino is taking it on whilst the club is as messed up as it is.

It's just a perpetual cycle of going nowhere but I doubt he'd get binned quickly as the owners are only interested in the CL money lining their pockets.
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Sorry I just don’t see the hype with Poch. I’m not saying he’s a good manager. Just not as good as some make out yes his spend was fairly low but his business was also shrewd. And he had a very very good team imo in which in some cases he under achieved.
 
As Poch is one of favorite managers I hope you wont take him and harrashim until his hair is also grey.... But think he would suit even to work with shambles board like you. He has the experienve with Levy and doing best with what he has. Some issue coul come about how the players would recieve his training as Spurs players where not very welcoming at first. But definetly he could bring another level to united team that players would benefit a lot.


Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Sorry I just don’t see the hype with Poch. I’m not saying he’s a good manager. Just not as good as some make out yes his spend was fairly low but his business was also shrewd. And he had a very very good team imo in which in some cases he under achieved.
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Most of those players are that good because he coach them into it, dont forget all players that have had success from his Southampton days. How you can say that he under achieved I dont really understand.
His biggest issue was being too loyal to his players and not selling them when their prices where high but their ability would not push the team futher.
 
This probably isn't factual but he'd have a point if it was ..... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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Theatre of Dreams83 said:
Sorry I just don’t see the hype with Poch. I’m not saying he’s a good manager. Just not as good as some make out yes his spend was fairly low but his business was also shrewd. And he had a very very good team imo in which in some cases he under achieved.
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Oh defo. No argument there.

As stupendous as 'Spurs getting to Madrid and a first EC final, whilst mirroring it up with a CL season through the league, was coming off the back of that mad window when they never spent a penny; conversely, somehow managing to finish third in a one-horse race the season Leicester won the league was shambolic.

Tottenham will NEVER have a better chance to win the league than that season. Most every other big side effectively took that season off and they still somehow contrived to lose the league to Leicester F City. Which, with absolutely no disrespect to Leicester's miraculous achievements that season, should NEVER have happened. And his attitude toward the domestic cups/ latter rounds of the Europa League was bizarre at times given they had super chances to add trophies there most of his seasons.
 
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