The Manchester United Thread

However, Robben revealed that he still believes there is a chance that his former Real Madrid team-mate could yet replace Scholes at Old Trafford, stating that Sneijder would be the ideal replacement for the United legend, who is expected to retire next summer.

"I personally think there is a very good chance he will join Man United," he said in the Daily Star.

"I am a big admirer of Scholes, he is one of the best players of his generation and I honestly think Sneijder is the only player in the world capable of replacing him.
 
So people.....do you think that Ashley Young is better than the possible ManCity signing Alexis Sanchez?

It seems very likely that Sanchez will sign for City unless Barca can break the bank which seems unlikely now?

Sanchez or Young?
 
So people.....do you think that Ashley Young is better than the possible ManCity signing Alexis Sanchez?

It seems very likely that Sanchez will sign for City unless Barca can break the bank which seems unlikely now?

Sanchez or Young?

City havent made a bid for Sanchez yet, Barca have.

and impossible to say, they would bring different things and used in different ways
 
City havent made a bid for Sanchez yet, Barca have.

and impossible to say, they would bring different things and used in different ways

What? City have made a bid for Sanchez......Barca aswell.

Citys offer is much better aswell. Thats why they are in a pole position?
 
So people.....do you think that Ashley Young is better than the possible ManCity signing Alexis Sanchez?

It seems very likely that Sanchez will sign for City unless Barca can break the bank which seems unlikely now?

Sanchez or Young?

No will discuss about possible ManCity signing, Kaka.. Oh wait..

You believe Pozzo words after the **** he has spouted for a month? First it was United, then deal to Barca was all but done, now City are favs when few days back he himself said Sanchez wants to join only Barca...
 
Sanchez's first choice will be Barcelona, second Man United, the only way he'll join City is if they offer stupid amounts of money.
 
sources have reported that both have made bids, only Barca's has been confirmed by Udinese

Sanchez wants Barca, but Udinese want the extra cash

Where has Barcas bid been confirmed? Both have made bids but they are waiting as they want every club involved to get a chance to sign him. However...clubs are failing to offer as much as City is offering.

I take everything Pozzo says with a pinch of salt but City are in a pole position in terms of money offered. Pozzo...like everyone else, wants as much money as possible. Thats why there are so much leaks that United, Chelsea now...etc. Are hijacking deals etc.
 
Where has Barcas bid been confirmed? Both have made bids but they are waiting as they want every club involved to get a chance to sign him. However...clubs are failing to offer as much as City is offering.

I take everything Pozzo says with a pinch of salt but City are in a pole position in terms of money offered. Pozzo...like everyone else, wants as much money as possible. Thats why there are so much leaks that United, Chelsea now...etc. Are hijacking deals etc.

Barcelona Raising a bid For Alexis Sanchez | FC Barcelona Today | News | Store
 
Where has Barcas bid been confirmed? Both have made bids but they are waiting as they want every club involved to get a chance to sign him. However...clubs are failing to offer as much as City is offering.

I take everything Pozzo says with a pinch of salt but City are in a pole position in terms of money offered. Pozzo...like everyone else, wants as much money as possible. Thats why there are so much leaks that United, Chelsea now...etc. Are hijacking deals etc.

Borghi is allowing Sanchez to fly to Spain from the national side to talk to Barca, becuase if he gets injured with them they would be liable to pay 30m of the fee. Pozzo is using this time to grandstand to all sides over an increased bid, but the only team the player is talking to is Barca.

Hard to be in pole position if the player isnt willing to talk yet
 

Thats not a official confirmation. + Atleast a the last part of it is fake because Barca aren't upping their offer to 50m. Thats bullshit. They are struggling to offer even half of that.

Gianpaolo Pozzo: 'Diamond' Alexis Sanchez worth €50m - ESPN Soccernet

"The truth is that Manchester City are making an offer which is more generous that that from Barcelona," Pozzo said.

It's not that Sanchez aren't willing to talk to City yet. City haven't had a bid even accepted yet. It's true that Sanchez pretty much HAS to complete the transfer before Copa.

They are waiting if Barca can offer enough. Sanchez wants his options to be open.
 
Last edited:
Wrong they are not struggling, they are currently unwilling, becuase they actually have contact with the player. They are using that as leverage in coming to a deal

Read the second part of my post. Barca will reduce debt and have a budget of 45m euros + sales. Udinese want to sell to the highest bidder.

Sanchez prefers Barca. But he will not go there unless they get a bid accepted. And he is willing to listent to City/other clubs if Barca can't offer enough.

Rosell already said they are not willing to overpay for a player. They have other targets like Fabregas and Rossi/Mata. Which makes them unable to use all of their funds on Sanchez for now.

City can offer all in one payment in cash. Something no one else could do..expect Chelsea i think.
 
Last edited:
Read the second part of my post. Barca will reduce debt and have a budget of 45m euros + sales. Udinese want to sell to the highest bidder.

Sanchez prefers Barca. But he will not go there unless they get a bid accepted. And he is willing to listent to City/other clubs if Barca can't offer enough.

Rosell already said they are not willing to overpay for a player. They have other targets like Fabregas and Rossi/Mata. Which makes them unable to use all of their funds on Sanchez for now.

not if they cannot meet their other targets

also Barca have recieved the TV money and CL money, they have significantly more money than they are saying pubically (this will be shown when their financial reports are shown) but its not good business sense to tell the world how much you are willing to spend, takes away your leverage

Rossi and Sanchez are being tracked for the same role, as is Mata

---------- Post added at 02:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 PM ----------

How Ashley Young Will Fit In At Man United

How Ashley Young Will Fit In At Man United - WhoScored.com

by Paul McKinnon at Friday, Jun 24 2011 10:12

Alex McLeish has not had the easiest of fortnights; the newly-installed Aston Villa boss is barely in the door following his controversial cross-town move from Birmingham City and has already had to face up to the sale of his prize asset Ashley Young to Manchester United, as his old Aberdeen gaffer Sir Alex Ferguson strengthens the champions squad in preparation for next season’s title defence.

Mainly known as a winger, last season saw Young utilised as an attacking central midfielder by Gerard Houllier more often than not; of his 34 starts for Villa last term, 24 were in a central position with just 12 coming on the flanks. The switch paid off and not only offered his club an increased offensive threat, it also saw the player take up the role for his country. Here’s a look at what he offered Villa last season and how he may fit in at United:

United’s preferred formation is, of course, 4-4-2. Fergie used the shape 24 times in the league last season, though he also turned to 4-3-3 on 7 occasions, mainly resting Rooney and Hernandez and giving Berbatov a chance to prove himself up top. Given the personnel at hand, it would seem a role on the left wing is the likeliest of positions for Young; a central role in a 4-2-3-1 would be intriguing but Fergie doesn’t seem a fan; he used the formation just once last season.

Ashley Young stats average as a Winger (12 games)
1.75 Shots, 2.08 Key Passes, 0.5 Successful Dribbles. 1 Goal, 2 Assists.

Man United Wingers
Nani (33 games): 3.1 Shots, 2.36 Key Passes, 2.5 Successful Dribbles, 9 Goals, 14 Assists.

Antonio Valencia (10 games): 0.3 Shots, 2.3 Key Passes, 1.5 Successful Dribbles per game. 1 Goal, 2 Assists. 1 Goal per 3 Shots.

Ji Sung-Park (15 games): 0.7 Shots, 1.07 Key Passes, 0.5 Successful Dribbles per game. 5 Goal, 3 Assists.

What’s perhaps surprising here is how little goal threat Valencia and Park offered last term- over his 10 games, Valencia had a total of 3 Shots and over 15 games, Park had only 10. With 1.75 Shots per game from out wide, Young will definitely boost that tally- indeed, he managed more Shots on Target per game (0.75) than either Valencia or Park had Shots. He’ll need to be more clinical though; Young had 21 Shots when playing out wide and scored only 1 Goal.

While Nani had more Shots per game than any other midfielder in the Premier League (3.1), his shooting was wayward; he had 102 Shots last term, yet scored only 9 Goals, which equates to 1 Goal every 11.36 Shots. In a sense, it suggests Nani still has a tendency to go for goal when a pass would be more sensible at times.

Young’s Key Passes (2.08) hold up against Nani (2.36) and Valencia (2.3), particularly when considering he was playing in a far less attacking team than United last term. Valencia’s stats suggest he is the opposite of Nani- he would rather go for the pass than shoot (2.3 Key Passes, 0.3 Shots), whereas Young provides more a balance of the two. Park, not known for his creative streak, had a lowly 1.07 Key Passes per game- clearly Young will boost this aspect of United’s game, too.

A look at each team’s average position in their respective home matches against Newcastle is typical of their play- in United’s opening game of the season, Nani (17) plays as high up as the forward line for United, coming inside off the wing onto his favoured left foot to shoot.

assnew.png

Villa’s average position map shows the difference in the teams’ shape- Villa played a 4-4-2 against Newcastle, the same as Man United, yet Young (7) never had the attacking license afforded to Nani.

This more “defensive” role may explain why Young managed just 0.5 Successful Dribbles per game; with more freedom to express himself he should at least match Valencia’s 1.5 next term. Nani’s 2.5 is again more ind
icative of his more flamboyant nature and tendency to attempt the spectacular. Young should give Ferguson a little more discipline on the left flank when given the chance.

Ashley Young stats as an Attacking Midfielder (24 games)
2.08 Shots, 2.25 Key Passes, 0.5 Successful Dribbles, 6 Goals, 5 Assists.

A comparison with his stats as a winger shows how much more of a danger Young was in the central role- over the 24 games, he managed 0.33 Shots and 0.17 Key Passes more per game and his adaptability will perhaps give Fergie food for thought in terms of formations.

His Successful Dribbles is identical to the tally on the wing (0.5) and is an aspect of Young’s game he will need to improve upon if he is to adapt seamlessly. Given that Rafael Van der Vaart averaged 2.39 Key Passes playing in the hole, Young’s 2.25 from a similar position shows his creative talents hold up with the silkiest of playmakers.

Once again, though, his shooting was woeful. 4 of the 6 Goals he grabbed were penalties here and given Young had 50 Shots from this position, it means -penalties outstanding- he scored 2 Goals from the other 46 Shots, ie- 1 Goal every 23 Shots; a poor level of finishing.

Overall, while the number of starts expected from Young is impossible to second-guess, it would seem that he will give United a steadier feel to the side; with less of a virtuoso streak than Nani, his decision-making in when to play a killer pass should see Young rack up the assists with finishers such as Rooney and Hernandez ahead of him. As for Goal output, it’s time to get the shooting practice in.
 
Back
Top