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It's Owen's fault, Obertan got past his man, made solid cross and Owen missed empty net.Poor cross at the end don't blame Owen! Blame the frenchman!
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may have been weak barca team but still had iniesta,pedro,abidal,valdes,villa,busquets,thiago,keita united also played weaker team cleverly,evans,welbeck,smalling,fabio plus subs just show our youngsters are better than theres great win imo
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Take the best 4 players out of any team and they won't be the same.
How the **** does you winning in a pre-season game mean that your youngsters are better than Barca's? Lmao.
Your youngsters are good, but not on the same level as Barca's.
**** off. It doesn't matter. They are BARCA youngsters so by default they are better. It doesn't matter whether someone has watched them before rating, just coz they are BARCA, their youngsters are better. Just learn to live with it.
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Yeah you're right, if Spurs were to take out Gomes, Crouch, Jenas and Hutton we might actually win something
Very much impressed with few players today.
Cleverley played his role very well. His reading of the game was very good and also his passing. Won few tackles and made few important interceptions. Fergie said he was the best player on the pitch for us and also he may start in the league. If he plays like he did today then we have very good CM in our squad.
Welbeck: Impressive. He is aura around him. He just oozes class. His first touch and control is brilliant. Works his socks off and very very quick. I have very high hopes on him. Just can't wait to see him play in the league.
Smalling: Nothing much to say. BEAST.
Evans: Yes, ******* Evans was very very good. Played one 40-50 yard pass to Young from right side to left one, flat and accurate one. If Pique, Rio, Smalling had played that pass then many would have jizzed about it. Lad is quality player. I want him to cement his place in the team. He is one of my fav players. He was very calm and composed and was like Evans of old.
Nani: Best winger in the league and showed his quality today once again.
Fabio did well too and De Gea apart from his one miss kick he was very good with his distribution..
Cleverley played his role very well. His reading of the game was very good and also his passing. Won few tackles and made few important interceptions. Fergie said he was the best player on the pitch for us and also he may start in the league. If he plays like he did today then we have very good CM in our squad.
Welbeck: Impressive. He is aura around him. He just oozes class. His first touch and control is brilliant. Works his socks off and very very quick. I have very high hopes on him. Just can't wait to see him play in the league.
Smalling: Nothing much to say. BEAST.
Evans: Yes, ******* Evans was very very good. Played one 40-50 yard pass to Young from right side to left one, flat and accurate one. If Pique, Rio, Smalling had played that pass then many would have jizzed about it. Lad is quality player. I want him to cement his place in the team. He is one of my fav players. He was very calm and composed and was like Evans of old.
Nani: Best winger in the league and showed his quality today once again.
Fabio did well too and De Gea apart from his one miss kick he was very good with his distribution..
Am I missing something? Looking at your line-up, there weren't many Utd "youngsters"... Almost 21 YO Danny Welbeck, 21 YO Cleverley, 23 YO Evans are the only ones who could feasibly count as youngsters in the First XI and I wouldn't really call them youngsters myself - all had at least one full-ish season in the PL.
But - the latter two are better than for e.g. Dos Santos, although not in the same ball-park as Thiago. Not sure about Fontas - haven't seen much of him tbh, but then I don't rate Evans much at all...
If we were to directly compare Barcelona B with Utd reserves, I think the former would probably be fairly comfortable winners but Utd probably have more players further in their development (Smalling, Jones, Welbeck vs Thiago and...?)
But - the latter two are better than for e.g. Dos Santos, although not in the same ball-park as Thiago. Not sure about Fontas - haven't seen much of him tbh, but then I don't rate Evans much at all...
If we were to directly compare Barcelona B with Utd reserves, I think the former would probably be fairly comfortable winners but Utd probably have more players further in their development (Smalling, Jones, Welbeck vs Thiago and...?)
Later Jones (19) played, De Gea (20)
also is a youngster..Also Fabio and Rafael played..
Later in the second half Giggs played too. One of our very promising youngster..
That would be unfair comparison as Barca B team plays in competitive league where as reserves league is ****.
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Are you trying to say that Barcelona's B team would beat Utd's?
Surely a reserve match is what we have just seen with a few exceptions? And Man Utd won.
I hadn't realised Rooney, De Gea, Fabio, Vidic, Nani were Reserves. Or that Iniesta, Keita, Valdes, Villa were 'B' team players. It wasn't a reserve match at all. It was two under-strength sides, not Reserve sides.
They were more of a first team with a few exceptions than vice-versa.
@Sunil - De Gea isn't a youngster. He's your first choice GK, Jones I'll accept.
Not denying Utd a deserved win, just saying that a conclusion that "Utd's youngsters are better than Barcelona's" is a little wide of the mark IMO.
Oh and I don't think it is an unfair comparison. Not even saying if they played one another, Barca would easily win - just that I think player by player, they have more quality in their Reserves/Bs
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What ever.. Thiago is a regular for Barca B team and U 21 Champion. If he can be considered as youngster why not De Gea.
And Barca played 6 players who started champions league finals plus Keita.. Not a reserves side..
Exactly. He's a regular for the B team and is only just starting to break through. De Gea is first choice and was at Atletico. So he's been playing FT football for at least 2 seasons.
Barca B team is not reserve team. Its comparable to team in championship. He was regular for them and also played few games for Barca. Also both are regulars for U21 team. Both are youngsters and big talents..
Barca "B" is Barca's reserves. They don't have a Reserve side apart from that - the way the Spanish league system works means that they play in Liga Adelante and act as a seperate, but affiliated club but they ARE reserves.
And 'youngster' suggests a reserve/u18 player, not a first choice player. Wilshere, for example, is no longer a "youngster" but a senior player and regular for both England and Arsenal. Thiago has played 14 times for Barca - De Gea has played over 50 times and is first choice for Utd now. Unless of course you expect Lindegaard and Kuszack to be first choice.
Pointless argument tbh - neither side was a reserve side, they were under-strength first teams with a few youngsters like Cleverley, Welbeck, Fontas, etc.
Could just say that United have better strength in depth? Which I think most would agree with.