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Big assessment of LVG this is, how he uses Martial and the way he plays will be very telling on the effect he is having on players.
 
Big assessment of LVG this is, how he uses Martial and the way he plays will be very telling on the effect he is having on players.

Martial in theory should be his favourite type of player.

But you'll have to give it at least a year before judging, maybe more.
 
Yeah, LVG seems strangly inconsistent.

Publically went guns blazing on Valdes, Valdes is now part of the squad again.

Publically promised Januzaj will play important role, Januzaj gets loaned.

Chicharito, same thing

Meanwhile, Wilson and Pereira didn't feature at all, and now they're suddenly important.

Its mildly confusing. :P

He's old AND he's Dutch. They're lucky to still be a functioning football club honestly.
 
Martial in theory should be his favourite type of player.

But you'll have to give it at least a year before judging, maybe more.

Why? I'm expecting him to come on first time he walks out to be nervous. But after that he really should settle in to his 'natural game' in an attacking sense anyway. Honestly if he starts passing backwards or never taking a man on or making them dribbles he does inside, you just know he is being told to do that by one person only. Doesn't take a year to work that out.
 
Martial in theory should be his favourite type of player.

But you'll have to give it at least a year before judging, maybe more.

A freaking men.

But fans, or clubs for that matter, never do today.

Bottom line all both see is the price tag and they expect instant results from the get go. Not taking into account a 52 league game inexperienced, still raw and developing kid.

Rightly or wrongly, the pressure and expectation comes with the fee that most will expect to be met the moment he takes to the field.
 
Why? I'm expecting him to come on first time he walks out to be nervous. But after that he really should settle in to his 'natural game' in an attacking sense anyway. Honestly if he starts passing backwards or never taking a man on or making them dribbles he does inside, you just know he is being told to do that by one person only. Doesn't take a year to work that out.

What do you mean, why? Because it takes years to mature for most players.
 
What do you mean, why? Because it takes years to mature for most players.

I think we're talking about two completely different topics.

I'm not talking about Martial delivering straight away, I'm talking about the way in which he plays. Direct, running at and past defenders, taking risks. It won't take a year to work out if LVG has stopped him doing these types of things is what I'm saying. Which is all part of him as a player.
 
I think we're talking about two completely different topics.

I'm not talking about Martial delivering straight away, I'm talking about the way in which he plays. Direct, running at and past defenders, taking risks. It won't take a year to work out if LVG has stopped him doing these types of things is what I'm saying. Which is all part of him as a player.

Or if he feels too nervous to continue trying at a club like United. it's not cut and dried
 
Or if he feels too nervous to continue trying at a club like United. it's not cut and dried

That's one factor, but as a coach you'd encourage him to do it. Didn't buy him to see him just retain possession well surely?

I think this is where Di Maria was the other extreme of what a lot of our players seem to be now. On one hand these types of players you want them to express themselves and make them special moments but that takes risks obviously. They could very well lose the ball, in Di Maria's case he was way too careless in possession a lot of the time, needlessly giving it away. In that aspect I can understand the other extreme of the scenario a coach wouldn't encourage.
 
What's the point of all this speculation, Martial may as well tore his ACL in the first game and that'll be the last time you'll hear of him.

Van Gaal has excellent record of working and promoting young talents, because when they're young they tolerate his bullshit without question. Its the estabilished players he sometimes struggles with.

I too watched some highlights and I can see where Martial-Henry comparisions come from. He has excellent close control and very quick turning point for a big guy (I guess that'd be Agility in FM terms). Still very raw product that needs a lot of work though.

He might be a huge success, it might not. No point getting worked up about it, we wont really find out befoe 2-3 years pass.
 
I'm really incensed at the player van gaal is turning memphis to...

Never have I seen him but in so many back passes before....

Almost like I've never seen agent 47 lock on a target and not kill
 
I actually think there is more chance he will sign now, than before.

He's had his eyed opened on Madrid in the worst way possible

Thats the reasonable conclusion but:

1. Footballers usually wouldnt know reasonableness if they met it in the street and it introduced itself to them with the words "Pleased to meet you Im reasonableness", to paraphrase a wise man (oh, ok Blackadder).
2. Edurne.
 
God Nick Powell. Forgot all about him.

There's an example of a youngster that moved too early. He'd of been better continuing his education at a great base in Crewe.

Then get his move up if he was good enough around the age he is now.

I think its generally known that he's got mentality/behavioural/temperamental issues ...
 
Yeah, LVG seems strangly inconsistent.

Publically went guns blazing on Valdes, Valdes is now part of the squad again.

Publically promised Januzaj will play important role, Januzaj gets loaned.

Chicharito, same thing

Meanwhile, Wilson and Pereira didn't feature at all, and now they're suddenly important.

Its mildly confusing. :P

Alcohol makes people unpredictable. Back then my mate kept joking about Fergie's absolutely unknowable tactical moves. :D
 
So Martial has only played a full 90mins, 7 times?? really... jesus.
 
Monaco are the definition of unprofessional over this Martial transfer, shocked how they are allowed to just spout out about money. Whatever happened to transfers that were undisclosed? Do United really not have clauses or some kind of agrement with Monaco that they can't speak publically about this? Especially when they are mentioning figures and everything.
 
Monaco are the definition of unprofessional over this Martial transfer, shocked how they are allowed to just spout out about money. Whatever happened to transfers that were undisclosed? Do United really not have clauses or some kind of agrement with Monaco that they can't speak publically about this? Especially when they are mentioning figures and everything.

United are a public traded company, dont they have to make outgoing money public record? (I could be wrong here, this is a massive guess, some business major correct me).
 
United are a public traded company, dont they have to make outgoing money public record? (I could be wrong here, this is a massive guess, some business major correct me).

Maybe, but there should still of been some kind of agreement that Monaco can't talk publically about this transfer. We've made these kind of agreements before with clubs over players, when we signed Chicharito for example.

Just sounds a bit insane how Monaco are allowed to talk out openly about the details of a transfer.
 
Maybe, but there should still of been some kind of agreement that Monaco can't talk publically about this transfer. We've made these kind of agreements before with clubs over players, when we signed Chicharito for example.

Just sounds a bit insane how Monaco are allowed to talk out openly about the details of a transfer.

Thats to be agreed between clubs usually, not sure on the PLC influence on it.

Monaco are gonna shout about it, at the moment they've received a **** load of guaranteed cash for a rookie. If/Until he start producing on a major level, they look like geniuses.
 
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