The Manchester United Thread

Tyton said:
If you want new manager to be someone who's been increasingly acting like a total nervous wreck for last couple of years, be my guest. It's your club.

Just don't be surprised if it ends in tears, because it probably will.
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It will end in tears for sure but what we need is short term success to put us back in the mix. We are going down way too quickly. ManUtd should be in the mix for the league and win one before it's too long. Winning 1 at least gives some space for longer term planning.

Alcaraz said:
Man United must get Jose Mourinho given lack of alternatives - ESPN FC

This perfectly illustrates what happened. United never thought to start working on Guardiola from the start thinking their history and tradition would woo him in the end. They realized it too late when they got blindsided by the Petroboys from City who have suddenly formed a footballing empire right under the noses of Woodward and co

Now they are forced to turn to the man they never wanted to turn to. Next season should be amazing
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Hard to blame Woody when something happened before his time. In the same way you can blame Roman and Arsenal also for not trying to sign Pep.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Boy are you in for a surprise on how he sets a team up if he doesn't change his MO datsy.

But it's not my concern so enjoy him if he's the man Utd choose. I personally hope he is as I think he's completely the wrong move for your club but that's another story. It's your club so so I hope you get the man you want.
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For sure. With Jose, ManUtd fans will enjoy winning league title and cups, with Klopp you can celebrate drawing against WBA.
 
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sunilvk7 said:
It will end in tears for sure but what we need is short term success to put us back in the mix. We are going down way too quickly. ManUtd should be in the mix for the league and win one before it's too long. Winning 1 at least gives some space for longer term planning.



Hard to blame Woody when something happened before his time. In the same way you can blame Roman and Arsenal also for not trying to sign Pep.
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Roman actually tried his very best. You would be surprised at how close Chelsea were on a number of occassions. We definitely tried much much harder than United. Cant say anything for Arsenal
 
wkdsoul said:
Blindsided,??? City have been after Pep for years, they prob still had the contract on the table from the offer before he got to Bayern. They kept the relationship going knowning full well in 2 years, at renewal they'd get another stab at it, and it worked.

Blindsided, nah they've built this in front of Woods face, for once in a long long long time, they've stopped glancing over the fence and got on with building there own half of the city..
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Yes blindsided. United always thought they were in the game right till the last minute. It just so happened that City were playing a completely different sport. By the time Woody realised, it was way too late. So yes it was blindsided

And what a half of a city they have built. They more or less completely dominate you in the youth arena and will probably dominate at first team level as well with their war chest and Pep. I am genuinely fearful that next 3-4 years will be City domination unless Mourinho 1.0 is the version that turns up at United
 
Alcaraz said:
Roman actually tried his very best. You would be surprised at how close Chelsea were on a number of occassions. We definitely tried much much harder than United. Cant say anything for Arsenal
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But didn't try hard enough because you didn't sign him. So Roman is an idiot.

Alcaraz said:
Yes blindsided. United always thought they were in the game right till the last minute. It just so happened that City were playing a completely different sport. By the time Woody realised, it was way too late. So yes it was blindsided

And what a half of a city they have built. They more or less completely dominate you in the youth arena and will probably dominate at first team level as well with their war chest and Pep. I am genuinely fearful that next 3-4 years will be City domination unless Mourinho 1.0 is the version that turns up at United
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First thing, you are replying to City fan (just FYI).

Second, it's your assumption and contradicts everything that is reported officially. City approached Pep when ManUtd had Fergie as their manager, it was done in 2012. They laid the foundation back in 2012 by appointing ex Barca staff who were on excellent terms with Pep.

Woody had no chance to compete when more or less everything was done before he was even appointed.
 
Alcaraz said:
Yes blindsided. United always thought they were in the game right till the last minute. It just so happened that City were playing a completely different sport. By the time Woody realised, it was way too late. So yes it was blindsided

And what a half of a city they have built. They more or less completely dominate you in the youth arena and will probably dominate at first team level as well with their war chest and Pep. I am genuinely fearful that next 3-4 years will be City domination unless Mourinho 1.0 is the version that turns up at United
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I'm the resident City fan fella, :)
 
Jesus can't we go at least one day without Sunil and Scouse having one of their squabbles? I'm guessing not.
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
He only acted like a nervous wreck for 6 months
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More like 3 years. People in normal state of mind don't poke the other manager in the eye. His behavior has been increasingly erratic ever since his last year in Madrid. In those 3 years he managed to lose both Madrid and Chelsea backrooms, as well as large section of the fans, something that was previously unthinkable because the players and fans always loved him.

If you hire 2005 Mourinho, good for you. But if you hire 2015 Mourinho, I'd worry.
 
sunilvk7 said:
But didn't try hard enough because you didn't sign him. So Roman is an idiot.



First thing, you are replying to City fan (just FYI).

Second, it's your assumption and contradicts everything that is reported officially. City approached Pep when ManUtd had Fergie as their manager, it was done in 2012. They laid the foundation back in 2012 by appointing ex Barca staff who were on excellent terms with Pep.

Woody had no chance to compete when more or less everything was done before he was even appointed.
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I have no idea what the first part even means. Chelsea tried hard and gave him a blank cheque 3 times ever since he left Barcelona. Read Balague's book on Pep. Meanwhile not a word of United attempting to get him to that extent

No assumptions. City started to lay the foundational work very early. United did not bother for whatever reason. Its very possible that they felt Pep would come running once they came calling with all their history and tradition. But once they actually attempted to get him this season when they knew LVG had to go, they realized they had no chance. If they knew that from earlier, they wouldn't have even attempted contacting him this season

This may not necessarily be Woody's fault although he as CEO has to take the blame. Lack of foresight and poor planning at the executive level at United. Thats why the Petroboys at City are catching up incredibly fast
 
Alcaraz said:
I have no idea what the first part even means. Chelsea tried hard and gave him a blank cheque 3 times ever since he left Barcelona. Read Balague's book on Pep. Meanwhile not a word of United attempting to get him to that extent

No assumptions. City started to lay the foundational work very early. United did not bother for whatever reason. Its very possible that they felt Pep would come running once they came calling with all their history and tradition. But once they actually attempted to get him this season when they knew LVG had to go, they realized they had no chance. If they knew that from earlier, they wouldn't have even attempted contacting him this season

This may not necessarily be Woody's fault although he as CEO has to take the blame. Lack of foresight and poor planning at the executive level at United. Thats why the Petroboys at City are catching up incredibly fast
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Like I said assumption.
 
Vanjagl said:
Hey! Go to your own thread! If you can find it :P

On more serious note, what do you expect from Pep when he comes?
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Prob the same just at a higher level, we play a similar style for the most part, Pep-lite. I would expect that to be in the same but of a high tempo and effectiveness. Think 2 gears above the top gear we have now.

I would expect a minor overhaul of the midfield and fullbacks, but nothing we weren't expecting or planning with the squad regardless of who was in charge, but where we were looking at chasing the likes of Cresswell and Barkley, we can step up to Alaba and Pogba, (hypothetical example, calm down people), with more than a fair shot of getting them and them wanting to come (without the usual "we're building something, we'll give you an extra 75k a week?" hit and hope negotiation).

For all the **** the owners got when the takeover happened 'its a toy, you'll be ruined if he gets bored and leaves", The club have no debt, make a profit per year, have grown something 400% commercial revenue, had more England call ups at 19-16 level than any other club, have a state of the art academy, training and women's team, not been out the top 2 in 5 years, picked up 2 leagues, 2 cups. We finished 9th when they took over and had Jo upfront.. never thought i'd see it tbh when i started following the club (1985 for those wondering), We're as well set up to capitalize on it as any club can be. They've ticked off the list, step by step pretty well if you're building a club.
 
Vanjagl said:
Hey! Go to your own thread! If you can find it :P

On more serious note, what do you expect from Pep when he comes?
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wkdsoul said:
Prob the same just at a higher level, we play a similar style for the most part, Pep-lite. I would expect that to be in the same but of a high tempo and effectiveness. Think 2 gears above the top gear we have now.

I would expect a minor overhaul of the midfield and fullbacks, but nothing we weren't expecting or planning with the squad regardless of who was in charge, but where we were looking at chasing the likes of Cresswell and Barkley, we can step up to Alaba and Pogba, (hypothetical example, calm down people), with more than a fair shot of getting them and them wanting to come (without the usual "we're building something, we'll give you an extra 75k a week?" hit and hope negotiation).

For all the **** the owners got when the takeover happened 'its a toy, you'll be ruined if he gets bored and leaves", The club have no debt, make a profit per year, have grown something 400% commercial revenue, had more England call ups at 19-16 level than any other club, have a state of the art academy, training and women's team, not been out the top 2 in 5 years, picked up 2 leagues, 2 cups. We finished 9th when they took over and had Jo upfront.. never thought i'd see it tbh when i started following the club (1985 for those wondering), We're as well set up to capitalize on it as any club can be. They've ticked off the list, step by step pretty well if you're building a club.
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I like how City works as a club. Your owners did great job unfortunately for Red side. Yeah, you might just be their way into western market, but who gives a **** when they are doing proper job and not ******* club over.

About Pep, what do you expect from him to win? Especially first season? Whats the general expectations form the club?

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Fix'd.
 
Subtle said:
He was weird at the end of Madrid, and there was something not entirely right about the way he came back to us. Falling away from the title in the first year was largely down to his stubbornness too,
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The was a general consensus he came to you too soon, and that he should have stayed away longer. Delany has done a really goo piece on this. Him joining united is down to poor planning on United's behalf, but Jose is actually in a better place then when he joined Chelsea again
 
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